another rarity

Yes, Roy, I think it is very doable & as I said to Arty ,just omit the canvas. I've always wondered why no one has yet to do one in Plastic. Considering that that there's a dozen new King Tigers being released every month lately by every kit maker I think someone could squeeze one of these out & be surprised by it's sale numbers. Thanks Roy. keith R.

109Dollars ? I think an Italieri Duece & a half { rather than Tamiya,in case it doesn't come out good } ,109 $ buys a lot of Plastrux or Evergreen ! Just have to build it w/o a tarp.Thanks Arty. Keith R.

GMorrison

Why didn't the Pentagon just keep buying Mutts?

GMorrison

Why didn't the Pentagon just keep buying Mutts?

Previous "jeeps" had relatively solid axels on traditional semi-eliptical springs.  You could drive those pretty hard on road or off, the vehicle generally had enough "feel" to tell you when you were getting into trouble,

The MUTT series introduced "A" frame semi-independant suspension.  This gave a very good ride on or off road.  However, there were a number of incidents where tire blowouts at highways speeds caused ugly rolllovers at speed. 

Radius arms were added bac from the ends of the suspension arms to the frame, but that never really fixed the rollover problem.  (Neither did stenciling "MAX SPEED 45 MPH" on the dash--after all every 19y/o Sp/4 is invincible.)

Military also determined that 1/4 ton of off-road capacity really wasn't enough anymore.  So, that put a kibosh on that size of vehicle.

HeavyArty

 

 

Moparlover64

The army also used 70's Powerwagon pickups usually in motor pools engineer units along with Chevy blazers CUKV for hauling gear and usually the NCOs claimed them and put the rest if us. In deuce and halfs 5ton dumps and 916s that was the 80's

 

 

Yes, they were  known as a CUCV (Civilian Utility Cargo Vehicle).  The Dodges were first generation and the Chevys were the second generation CUCV.  They were used as off the shelf, cheap intrum vehicles to fill the hole when M151A2 1/4 tons were used up and the HMMWV wasn't fielded yet.

M882 Dodge

M1008 Chevy

M1009 Chevy Blazer

 

Both the M1008 and M1009 CUCVs are available in 1/35 as resin kits from MiniMan Factory.

 

 

Yes and no. Originally the army was looking for replacements from the fleet of 1 1/2 ton vehicles which had died out of the system. They were working on a replacement and with Chrysler geting bankrupcy bail out it was decided to buy the M880 series of trucks hopefully solving two problems.

They were M880s were DOGS. No power, very bad gas mileage and poor quality. Once all the emission controls were removed from the gas engine, nothing functioned properly. They fit a need but their poor construction lead to their demise. As such they were replaced by the Chevy version M1008/M1009.

Initially the M880s and then the M1008/9 were issued to front line units but were not army capable off road vehicles. Soon the ultimate replacement arrived as the M998 HMMWV. The HMMWV replace the M1008/9 in front line units. It also replaced the M151 A1/2 and a host of other vehicles like the Gamma Goat.

Rounds Complete!!

Rollover risk at high speeds, not suitable for highway use, but great for the field. The CUCVs were useful for guard units traveling between armories and military bases. They were configured into ambulances, maintenance contact trucks, signal huts. Jeeps were more of a front line field use vehicle.

Why didn't the Pentagon just keep buying Mutts?

ridleusmc

What? 

No Fords?  

 

Ford made like a quarter million WW2 Jeeps. Ford designed and made the "Jeep" of the 1960s-80s, the M151/A1/A2, which was also produced by Willys as well.

http://fordmotorhistory.com/factories/richmond/ford_jeeps.php

Maybe this is what you are searching for? https://www.scalemates.com/kits/948407-masters-productions-35013-chevy-4x4-1-1-2-ton-cargo-truck

What? 

No Fords?  

HeavyArty

Yes, they were  known as a CUCV (Civilian Utility Cargo Vehicle).  The Dodges were first generation and the Chevys were the second generation CUCV.  They were used as off the shelf, cheap intrum vehicles to fill the hole when M151A2 1/4 tons were used up and the HMMWV wasn't fielded yet.

CUCV stood for Commercial Utility Cargo Vehicle, not Civilian.

Moparlover64

The army also used 70's Powerwagon pickups usually in motor pools engineer units along with Chevy blazers CUKV for hauling gear and usually the NCOs claimed them and put the rest if us. In deuce and halfs 5ton dumps and 916s that was the 80's

Yes, they were  known as a CUCV (Civilian Utility Cargo Vehicle).  The Dodges were first generation and the Chevys were the second generation CUCV.  They were used as off the shelf, cheap intrum vehicles to fill the hole when M151A2 1/4 tons were used up and the HMMWV wasn't fielded yet.

M882 Dodge

M1008 Chevy

M1009 Chevy Blazer

 

Both the M1008 and M1009 CUCVs are available in 1/35 as resin kits from MiniMan Factory.

 

The army also used 70's Powerwagon pickups usually in motor pools engineer units along with Chevy blazers CUKV for hauling gear and usually the NCOs claimed them and put the rest if us. In deuce and halfs 5ton dumps and 916s that was the 80's

If I recall rightly, the 353s were largely AAF mounts.

USN typically used IH & Ford.

Doable. Rear drive wheels would have to go from 8 to 4. SOme changes to interior -- also sides above the fenders are different. I've built a wood-slatted cargo compartment before out of lots of Evergreen. The recommended donor kit would be the Italeri/Testors GMC Water truck (because it has the right cab).  

You'd want to download this too: https://archive.org/details/TM9-805

That's a new type to me... I was only aware of the Dodge 1 1/2 ton type... Nice to learn something new. I wonder how hard it would be to take a standard Deuce and cut it down to this 1 1/2 ton type... 

stikpusher

or are you thinking of this kit?

 

 

  

 

Nope, those are all 1 1/2 ton Dodge 6x6 trucks (G507).

He is talking about the 1 1/2 ton 4x4 Chevy truck, G506.  It was basically a CCKW 353 (G508) 2 1/2 ton 6x6 truck with a shorter bed and single rear axle.

or are you thinking of this kit?

 

You probably saw the Real Model CCK 353 kit.  

There is one on Ebay now:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-CCK-353-4x4-Cargo-1-35-Real-Model-resin-RM35114-/161556286564?hash=item259d814c64:m:mbS3YhJy_mjBwLr6HO5O-dw

www.kitformservices.com they've got a lot of military models