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Dragon 1/35th American M6 Heavy

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  • From: SW Virginia
Dragon 1/35th American M6 Heavy
Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 16, 2017 8:24 PM

Well, here's Dragon's 'Black Label' kit of the US M6 heavy tank. The M6 was only built in limited numbers (I've seen 30-45 on different websites). None ever left the States and none ever saw combat. They were used for test trials and one did take part in a war bonds parade. The closest they ever got to action is it seems one drove over a car in a propaganda film. Big Smile

https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=557

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/US/M6A1_Heavy_Tank.php

From the reviews I've heard there are a number of issues with the accurate nature of the kit but frankly it went together for me without any real fit issues. I didn't try to fix anything but just slapped her together. I found the provided insignia for the test vehicles dull so I rooted up some spare stars and numbers and marked her for an operational tank. Thanks Stikpusher for helping me with the vehicle codes!

I did use her for a test bed for preshading and weathering. Probably I shouldn't have taken the photos outside because that did wash out a lot of the detail. I may take a few more inside under better lighting. And I did create some ruts for the treads but I didn't notice that the model is sitting on top of them instead of down in them. Looks like I need to drive a screw though the model and fix her down into the base... Embarrassed

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Albany, New York
Posted by ManCityFan on Monday, October 16, 2017 9:23 PM

That is a nice build.  Weathering looks spot on to me.  Not battlefield dirty, but out on maneuvers dirty.  Great job.

D

Dwayne or Dman or just D.  All comments are welcome on my builds. 

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  • From: A Galaxy Far, Far Away
Posted by Hunter on Monday, October 16, 2017 9:26 PM

Cliff,

Sir that is one awesome build!! Everything looks great. 

Hunter 

      

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 16, 2017 10:58 PM

Thanks guys!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Northeast WA State
Posted by armornut on Monday, October 16, 2017 11:14 PM

Spiffy in a filthy kinda way. Your TC looks good from the photos, my impression is a mustache and glasses. Looks good G.

we're modelers it's what we do

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  • From: providence ,r.i.
Posted by templar1099 on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:29 AM

That's a really nice job,and yea,the mustache kills me.

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 7:37 AM

The thing has 36 friggin' road wheels and I wasn't going to paint the rubber areas of all of them so I just hosed them with 'mud'. Then I looked at photos of French tanks with the same track guards and noticed mud and dirt tended to spatter up the sides so I tried to get something like that. It was a bit of an experiment, I sprayed the sides with hairspray, sprayed on Tamiya buff in an irregular pattern up and down, and then scrubbed from the top down to remove some to give a patchy rain-streaked look. Not sure it's totally correct but I liked it so I left it.  

The commander came from MiniArt's US tank crew with cold weather gear. The artist who did the box art gave the commander a 'stache so I just had to give him one too. Maybe I over did it! One of my friends called him Gomez Adams..... Indifferent

No glasses, I guess the pop-eyed look I get with figures gives that impression. 

 

Thanks guys!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:10 AM

It looks good, I've heard bad (accuracy wise) things about the M6 and M6A1 kits, not to mention the bad words about the entire Black Label series. Your kit looks just fine and the tank has an interesting look to it. Reminds me of the Tamiya Char B1 Bis; giant hull with big turret.

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Posted by Razzie43 on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:52 AM

Wow ,it looks those background is from around my country...

M6 in bastogne! amazing paint you made here like always..

Thank you cliff

 

cheers 

Razz/Michael

My collection of tanks :
http://rascarcapaco.blogspot.be/

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:19 PM

Cliff,

Great job on the M6! I really like how you did the weathering. And as many, I've heard a lot of bad things about these kits. I don't know, your's looks fantastic!

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by Griffin25 on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:52 PM

Great job. The autumn leaves are a nice touch! The commander looks like my first boss at Standard Brands Paints. That tank is a beast! 

 

 

Griffin

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:16 PM

Thanks guys, you're way too kind!

Rob & Bruce: Yeah, despite the bad rap the 'Black Label' gets I had no issues with the kit. I have their M103 about half built and yeah it's got some problems. And the Doog's T54 and the horrid turret. But this one built up nicely. I fact I think it was one of the better Dragon kits I've done.

Only real issue is something that wasn't Dragon's fault but the real thing. Whereas a M3 or M4 had three suspension bogies on each side the M6 is longer so it has four. And instead of coming up with a new suspension since the M6 is almost twice as heavy as the mediums the engineers just doubled up the bogies on each side- aka two sets of bogies on each side. Or- B for bogie here:

M3 or M4:

B B

B B

B B

 

The M6:

BB BB

BB BB

BB BB

BB BB

So in the end there are 16 bogies compared to the M4's 6. Almost like building three Shermans at once! A kind friend donated a M10 to me and I had to tell him sorry it's going to be sometime before I can build anything with a VVSS suspension- that M6 burnt me out!!! Dead

 

Griffin: Lol, when I finished the thing it just looked like it needed something but I wasn't sure what. So I added the leaves as a touch of colour!

 

BTW: I've got something even bigger coming soon!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:29 PM

Never seen one of these built up, Cliff. A righteous build!

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:50 PM

Thanks!!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:49 AM

Nice build there G, i like the weathering, the side skirts arevery well done. Nice realistic finish.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:34 AM

Thanks Bish! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Tumwater, WA.
Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 8:14 AM

That finish is what grabs my attention the most. I absolutely love the very subtle modulation I think I see. That looks so natural that the natural light plays beautifully on it.

Your figure does look a bit like he's shat himself proper like lol. Wonder what he just saw through those binoculars? Simple fix, give him some eye lids. That'll take that googly eyes look away without having to repaint the entire face.

The leaves are a fantastic touch! Looks like he's been parked under tree somewhere. Adds a splash of color as you said and gives you an impression that it's part of the environment.

Love it! :D

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:25 AM

Lol, thanks Mike for a good laugh. Maybe he saw Karl's Jadgpanzer pointing it's gun at him? Wink

And good advice, the commander isn't cemented into the turret so I can still pull him out and fiddle with the paint. 

The paint is AK Interactive's set for US olive drab. It's easy as falling off a log, just follow the instructions on the back of the box. I've used the same set on about a half-dozen subjects so far. 

The leaves were just luck, I guess even a blind crow finds a worm every now and again. .. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 12:32 PM

Gamera

Thanks guys, you're way too kind!

Rob & Bruce: Yeah, despite the bad rap the 'Black Label' gets I had no issues with the kit. I have their M103 about half built and yeah it's got some problems. And the Doog's T54 and the horrid turret. But this one built up nicely. I fact I think it was one of the better Dragon kits I've done.

 

It looks to be a pain to assemble the suspension, that's for sure. The only black label kit I own is the MBT70. It has gotten criticism because while it is the German version, they used details from one surviving example and details from the second surviving example and created a kit that does not accurately depict either one. It would be even more difficult to depict one of the US ones since there are several and no two are alike.

I'm happy to have a quality kit that I can use as a base to create a "what if" version of the tank in service as opposed to a pre-production prototype that doesn't even have real armor steel. I've thought about arming it with the 120 from the M103 or a 105 from the M60 series. Not sure though.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:45 AM

Rob: I've looked at the MBT70 but haven't pulled the trigger on it for pretty much the same reasons. I picked up this M6 kit on sale for about thirty-five bucks. I paid full price for my M103 and felt it wasn't worth it considering the issues. At thirty-five I can swallow a lot more problems in a kit. If I can find the MBT70 around the same price I'll probably pick one up. 

After finishing this one I did kick around the idea if I can find another M6 at a decent price of 'updating' it. Adding a commander cupola, a turret hatch for the gunner and loader, rebuilding the front glacis plate with a ball mount for the MG and adding periscopes for the driver and bow gunner and getting rid of the direct vision ports for example. We'll see in the fullness of time if I ever get around to it. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Greatmaker on Monday, October 23, 2017 1:12 PM

Don’t know much about armor but that looks fantastic. Weathering looks terrific

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, October 23, 2017 5:19 PM

Your test bed turned out great! Terrific weathering and very fall-like diorama.

Another thread I'll have to reference as I build my first armor kit.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 23, 2017 11:19 PM

Hey thanks guys!!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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