New Tiger [Advice Please]

heres some links for Tigers
http://www.tigertank-h-e-181.com/index.htm
http://www.alanhamby.com/tiger.html
http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/main.html
this ones a bit slow on loading now adays? http://www.panzer.punkt.pl/strony_www/tiger_galeria.htm
it is a big box isnt it, and all crammed full, hasnt it got the option for indy tracks?

Hi there
Thanx Jon for that. Really appreciate it.
And no it doesnt hav that option. Glad for that. Would take me even longer. lol

Keep well.

I recomend a 3-tone camo pattern. Zimmerit would be good too, but it's going to be hard to do. Academy rubber band tracks are very hard to control when your making the sag. It's best to put the glue in and ram something in there to keep the sag and let it dry for about an hour.

Hey ArmourMaster
Thanx for that. Im going to do it without zimm. Im scared it will look crappy. This is only my 6th model so far so i will go with a plain tiger.

Keep well.

Hey Artorius..

How is getting kits in SA, actually? What are the prices like? My girlfriend wants me to move back with her one day and I'd kinda like to have the scratch 'n sniff-ness of a good LHS..

As for the Tiger, there are no plain Tigers. They're all special (in a loving, cuddly kind of way). I personally slightly regret not getting the same kit when I had the chance (Hmm.. Italeri basic, Acadamy full interiour.. decisions decisions.. 800 rand later..)

Camo patterns were vehicle specific. The vehicles were delivered to their units in dark yellor. Greens and red-browns were field applied by brush, spraygun, mop, small furry animals.. Anything handy, basically. Some were also just painted a dark grey. even if you leave the vehicle grey or dark yellow, nobody will point out colour inaccuracies. Thats the nice thing (or frustrating) about German armour, there is no set pattern and you have complete artistic freedom.

Good luck Artorius. You might try a three-toned cammo with spraycans and silly putty. Might work if your careful. Maybe a two-toned cammo. Good luck.

Hey Michael
Thanx for the tips. I got this kit from toys r us would u believe it. And it only cost the grand total of R199. How is that for cheap. Avg Tamiya costs R350 u do the math.
Concerning HS in this country. Here in Natal there arent many but 600km from here in Jo'burg there r sum relly nice stores. The only problem is u dont get much aftermarket stuff and ive only seen Academy,Tamiya,Italeri and Dragon kits. Lots of wingy thingys as well if u r that way inclined. There is a HS about 30km's from here who is absolutely packed with kits(they r piled up by the dozen) Ok its a small store.LOL But dont like going there. The owner is a real IDIOT.

Keep well.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Artorius Hey Michael Thanx for the tips. I got this kit from toys r us would u believe it. And it only cost the grand total of R199.

WHOAH! R199? Could you send me one???

Not too thrilled about Jo'burg.. We were considering Cape town, to be honest.

Michael
Come to think of it Jo'burg is rather crap. Being on the coast is nice. Why Cape Town? All they hav is a mountain and a friggin cold sea. LOL

Keep well.

if you want to Zim it Eduard make a PE zimerret set for the Academy Tiger

I love Academy. i have done but a few armor kits but i tell you i loved doing my M10 Duckbilll from academy and even though they are almost the same as soon as i come up with the 45 dollars i am going to buy the M36 jackson kit too.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Grimace I love Academy. i have done but a few armor kits but i tell you i loved doing my M10 Duckbilll from academy and even though they are almost the same as soon as i come up with the 45 dollars i am going to buy the M36 jackson kit too.

wow the M36 costs the same over here, there normaly much cheaper in the US

when you finish the Tiger the M10 Duckbill looks very nice in the box (even has a engine too)
and the M36s box is packed full too
there sitting next to me waiting for me to finish some kits

QUOTE: Originally posted by Artorius Michael Come to think of it Jo'burg is rather crap. Being on the coast is nice. Why Cape Town? All they hav is a mountain and a friggin cold sea. LOL Keep well.

I guess it reminds me of Europe.. Except for the mountain, that is.. Besides, don't you lot have all the sharks?

QUOTE: Originally posted by Michaelvk QUOTE: Originally posted by Artorius Michael Come to think of it Jo'burg is rather crap. Being on the coast is nice. Why Cape Town? All they hav is a mountain and a friggin cold sea. LOL Keep well. I guess it reminds me of Europe.. Except for the mountain, that is.. Besides, don't you lot have all the sharks?

South Africa has half the sharks. We have the other half!

Nice buy on the Tiger. I would like to pick one up, too. They certainly are good value here in Oz too.

Like J-Hulk says: Kitty's look best in grey.
Tha good thing about a solid colour, (Panzer Grey or Dark Yellow), is that they tend to look more imposing, sort of ...bigger. Which is a good effect for a Tiger. If that is all you are comfortable or have the tools to do, you we still come out with a good model.

Matt

Cover it with Dunkelgelb, then scratch it up where all the bullets and shells bounced off.
If you come up with a place, time and unit, I can probaly get you the most likely colors and pattern.

There is a build/acurizing article on this kiit on missing-lynx.com, but they seem to be down right now. At least, I can't get to them. Very good article. Good luck.

QUOTE: Originally posted by wipw There is a build/acurizing article on this kiit on missing-lynx.com, but they seem to be down right now. At least, I can't get to them. Very good article. Good luck.

hers the link to the above post
http://www.missing-lynx.com/articles/german/mmtiger/mmtiger.htm

QUOTE: Camo patterns were vehicle specific. The vehicles were delivered to their units in dark yellor. Greens and red-browns were field applied by brush, spraygun, mop, small furry animals.. Anything handy, basically. Some were also just painted a dark grey.

Allright the German Armor freak has arrived again (here we go)! Deap breath-Ok, early tanks and all early production armor was painted in a dark-semi blueish dark grey. Tamiya makes this color (Acrylic-it's called german grey) and only earlies had this applied at the factory. Very, very few times did crews ever add their own camo (browns and greens) to the dark grey. Another Deap Breath-Then from the Mid production german armor up till the end of the war all tanks were applied with a dark yellow color. Nothing was ever added after that and the sprayed tanks were taken to the field where the crews could mop/spray/broom on anything after that. It really depended on what the crews decided they would do. The only tanks that had a factory applied camo (with green and red-brown) was Tiger II's in late war-1944 and these were professional and high contrast camos. Another Breath-Zimmerit was applied and it was painted over again (zim was applied in the field) and it chipped off to show red-brown sections where it had been. Usually when the camo was applied the crews tried to avoid spraying over the numbers and unit signs, but sometimes they could repaint it iff any mistakes happened. Hope it helps with historical accuracy and painting you mid pro. This can all be summorized up to say, I think you shouldn't paint it dark grey under all costs and maybe paint it in a 3-tone camo. Do what you want, because you should have fun with it.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Artorius Hi there I went out yesterday morning to the mall and decided to c what kits they had and what the prices where like and i ended coming home with an Academy Tiger 1 mid pro with full interior.(Sorry Robert) I opened the box on the way home and was so surprised. I hav never seen so much plastic in my life in one kit. And there is a bonus. I was expecting indy trax but was glad to c that they where one piece Thank goodness. All in all it looks like a great kit. Now on to the point.

I also got this kit this weekend. I do not know when I will build it.
Thanks for the links Jon.
mark956

Jon, thanks for posting the link. I don't know why I couldn't get to missing links site, but glad you were able to cover for me.

Hi there
Thanx every1 for the tips and comments, I really appreciate it. Sorry about the delay in replying.(I hav to cut down on the net)
Just another question.
-Was zimm applied on all tigers or where there a few who didnt hav coz i dont really want to try just yet.
Thanx again.

Keep well.

Zimmerit was applied on Mid and Late production Tigers. I imagine not every Mid and Late Tiger had Zim, but a sizable amount did. You'd never see zim on an early tiger, unless it was still in action when the Mids and Lates were out and being zimmed, but even then I've never seen an early Production with zim. It would add an extra bonus and make the tiger more intresting with zimmerit though. I have a website that shows the exact recipe for zimmerit that the Germans mixed together to make the stuff if anyones intrested.

Thanx for clearing that up ArmorMaster.

Keep well.

I built the early version of these 2 Tiger kits a while ago and was quite pleased with the result, especially for the price. Mine had the single link tracks too which you say yours doesn't? That's a shame as they look really nice when they're finished, although they take a long time to clean up and put together!
I had a look at the build article linked in one of the other posts and it kinda rips it apart a bit doesn't it! I'm not much of a "rivet counter" (no offence meant to anyone who is! LOL) myslf so I didn't do a lot of the accurising he mentions, only the real obvious things like the ammo bins and lubrication points. I didn't do the transverse struts as they can't really be seen once the floor is in. And being the early model I didn't need to do a lot of the stuff he mentions anyway. DO watch out for the fit of the turret roof - on mine it was really bad, make sure you dry fit it before you glue the turret halves together! What I did was just put a strip of styrene ( can't remember if it was 0.5mm or 1mm) in the rear joint before I stuck them, that allowed it to just drop in nicely and was easier than trying to sand the top down to size. And be very careful with the turret power take off in the bottom, if you don't sit it just right the turret won't sit down properly. Oh, and watch the front transmission too, if you don't fit it just right the front panel will hit it and I had to carve out the inside of the panel to get it to fit as I didn't realise until I had fitted wheels, tracks, everything!

I added some P/E for various parts on the outside and it built into a nice looking Tiger. I modelled mine on one that was used in Russia so I did it in Tamiya german grey (best match I've found for that early grey colour they used) with a very patchy coat of white over the top to imitate the whitewash they used in the winter. No pics I'm afraid as my cam is currently U/S :-(
Good luck with the build, and most of all, ENJOY! :-)

You may try using cavalier resin zimm , should you decide to go that way . It is very simple to install , just cuts like paper and you super glue ,(or epoxy it to the surface ) Costs about 15 bucks here USA . It really adds to a german tank I think , especially tigers ! Give it a try !