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What IS this?
Posted by disastermaster on Monday, October 19, 2020 11:13 AM
--- A salvaged mockup??
 
06/26/2011
Panzerkampfwagen VI "Tiger" (1052 of 1551)
Picture taken: June 27 2011, 0:12:03
 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 19, 2020 11:24 AM

I think it was the tank of a certain Prussian Field Marshal that got banned from this site... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, October 19, 2020 11:43 AM

            http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/smiley-face-laughing.gif

Sherman-Jumbo-1945

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Posted by gregbale on Monday, October 19, 2020 12:12 PM

I ran the line below the photo through an online app...something may have gotten lost in the translation...

wild photomontage ... from trunk to caterpillars ...

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, October 19, 2020 12:30 PM

Different languages use different words for the American word "tracks". I know in some languages, it is "chain" and in others it is "caterpillar".

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Posted by gregbale on Monday, October 19, 2020 12:47 PM

Rob Gronovius

Different languages use different words for the American word "tracks". I know in some languages, it is "chain" and in others it is "caterpillar".

I sort of figured as much. Couldn't sort whether 'trunk' might refer to the hull or the gun....

Greg

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, October 19, 2020 12:47 PM

 

Gamera

I think it was the tank of a certain Prussian Field Marshal that got banned from this site... 

 

Needs more rust.

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Posted by Ixion on Monday, October 19, 2020 1:57 PM

Worst Photochop ever...

Ok, this ISN"T the photo that was brutally chopped to death, but it is EXACTLY the same location and surely the inspiration for this bungling failure of a photoshopped conjob. Look closely at the far shoreline, directly above the left man's shoulder, see the notch in the tree-line? Look carefully at the ups and downs of the trees on the horizon. Compare to Disastermaster's image. Coincidence? I think not. I'm pretty sure I know where the basis for the "Tiger" came from too, if I can find it, however, most of it is simply drawn in. Really expended a lot of time drafting those highly-detailed tracks on the Tiger. Huh? Note also what real tow cables look like, then compare these to the ones on the Tiger, they are a joke.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, October 19, 2020 3:56 PM

Could it be?

   I dunno. The tracks definitely don't look right. It may have been a motorized Mock-up for some movie?

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, October 19, 2020 3:57 PM

What Man?

 There aren't any people in my picture of it!

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, October 19, 2020 4:03 PM

Besides the track issue there's something funky about that gun mantle and the absence of the turret mantle pin too.

The front drive wheel isn't right and I've never seen that kind of cable mount on the lower front portion of a Tiger I.

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Posted by Ixion on Monday, October 19, 2020 4:05 PM

It wasn't chopped from the image I posted, only the location is the same. There are hundreds of photos of this KV-1 being pulled from the Neva River, sorry I can't find the exact one. Everything in this image is fake, except for the background. In any event, axing people out of the photo is very easy to do. The Tiger is totally fake. Look at the drive sprockets! Even the cables are fake. What company would make two-stranded tow cables? It's pretty easy to make these sorts of mash-ups, especially at this low level of resolution. Cut and paste whatever you want into the image. Don't have anything to cut and paste? No problem! Draw it in! Clone stamp some texture around the object, crank up the blur tool, you've got a whole new photo! There's a whole cabal of unscrupulous grifters out there passing these sorts of fakes off as real, for big money!

A little homework;

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/KV_VI_Fake_Tanks.php

As an added note, I do the same thing with my models all the time.

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, October 19, 2020 6:23 PM

Rob Gronovius
it is "chain"

Pretty common among construction equipment mechanics, too.

"Chain" being the part contacting the drive sprocket and idler, the plates bolted to them are either "treads" or "grousers" depending on where in the US you ask.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, October 19, 2020 10:38 PM

You can't believe anything anymore  

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, October 19, 2020 10:46 PM

modelcrazy

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, October 19, 2020 11:15 PM

Those have got to be the straightest fenders I've ever seen on a Tiger.

But yes, as mentioned the most striking oddities are the tracks and drive sprocket. That's just weird.

Well, whatever that is, there is a lot of time invested in it, I guarantee you that. Being proficient in Ps myself, I can tell you this was no mere cut and paste project. This is hours and hours of work.

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Posted by Ixion on Monday, October 19, 2020 11:28 PM

This is a much better, albeit much simpler, photoshop fake;

It supposedly shows a Ramtiger, rusting away in the back lot of Kubinka. But this too is a fake.

There are hundreds of these lurking around the internet, just waiting for some Eager Mc Beaver rare-photo collector to plop down their hard-earned simoleons for some worthless piece of junk.

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