SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

Vietnam SEAL dio help...

746 views
13 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    November 2005
Vietnam SEAL dio help...
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 8, 2004 2:11 AM
I would like some of your opinions on my WIP dio.
Here is a link: http://public.fotki.com/dawgfighter/seal_diorama/plan1.html
I have the base constructed and am now focusing on building plant life and drilling holes for all that grass. As soon as I get access to a digicam, I will post some pics on fotki, untill then, just post questions and/or opinions here.
Sorry about the bad handwriting, it was 2am when I did this, so I was a bit tired.
  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Thursday, July 8, 2004 7:15 AM
You follow basic design principles well, and it should turn out very interesting. You do have some dead space on the upper left and somewhat less on bottom left sides, respectively. Can't wait to see those pics.
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 8, 2004 9:52 AM
Maybe if i put a mud puddle in the dead space? Would that work out?
  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:04 AM
Couple of issues with your idea. First, M151A2 should be an M151A1 version. M151A2 did not come out till mid 1970s and was not used in Vietnam in 1970. Also, why would SEALs be using a Jeep that far into Cambodia. SEALs usually operated on foot from drop zones and patrol bases after being dropped off by helicopter, they didn't normally use vehicles.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

Check out my Gallery: https://app.photobucket.com/u/HeavyArty

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Philomath, OR, USA
Posted by knight667 on Thursday, July 8, 2004 10:09 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty

SEALs usually operated on foot from drop zones and patrol bases after being dropped off by helicopter, they didn't normally use vehicles.


They still don't use vehicles. Big Smile [:D] Truly hardcore groud-pounders.
John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by loneeagle48 on Thursday, July 8, 2004 12:31 PM
Seals in Nam used boats and walked in to do thier missions not too many chopper rides at all they followed rivers, canals,and such, real mud puppies.I know I was there in '68 -' 69 Seal team2 MACV-SOG ----------Stephen AO 2
Seals are crazy. I have the papers to prove it . You on't jump from a plane in less its on fire. You don't swim to a shore and go hunting bad guys with wet weapons yet I did. And pouud of it. Nam 68-69
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 8, 2004 7:30 PM
I don't care to be 100% accurate. I wasn't there. The idea for this is that it COULD have happened. I guess I didn't clarify that point. Sorry. I have also done some research, and the A2 started production in late 69/early 70. Also, the SEALS are spec ops, who knows what they really did or didn't do, (except loneeagle) they "borrowed" equipment from just about everyone, whatever got the job done the best. I hope no one takes this as a harsh response, I really don't mean it that way; I'm just clarifying what my ideas are, since I failed to do that before.
  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, July 8, 2004 8:54 PM
QUOTE: I don't care to be 100% accurate. I wasn't there. The idea for this is that it COULD have happened. I guess I didn't clarify that point.

Not to be a jerk, but, if this is a "what if" or "could have been" dio, what do you care what anyone else thinks. It does not have to be accurate historically or in any other manner. I still disagree about the M151A2. Production may have started in 69/70, but new models were not immediately sent to Vietnam. Also, if you can't take criticism, don't ask for it on the forums.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

Check out my Gallery: https://app.photobucket.com/u/HeavyArty

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: Sunny Florida
Posted by renarts on Thursday, July 8, 2004 9:56 PM
You can get rid of your dead spots by making your road an s-curve. Straight shapes (your current road) are a design no-no. Very plain and establishes a symatry that will divide your base. By making your road an s-curve you build visual interest. It will make the road seem longer, more rural and not divide your base in half. You can still elevate it with your mound and because of the s-curve create more "mystery" and hidden views that could hold ambush prospects. Sort of "whats just around the corner?" This will create visual tension in the scene and draw the viewer in. Will make the base look bigger than it is too without taking up any more room than you already planned. Your foiliage will be spread out and won't create a visual competition with your model and figures. You could on the other hand, use the foiliage as a backdrop to highlight your model and figures, say a stand of bamboo?

Gino brings up a good point in that if you are interested in historical accuracy then it should be right. If not, call it SOCOM in the jungle. This could be any jungle in any country that may still have surplussed american equipment that was liberated by your SEAL team. No foul, and no one can gig you on historical accuracy......if it matters to you. If it does then I'd say try to back date your existing vehicle or rethink your design element.

Good luck with it and post some pics either IP or when its done.
Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 9, 2004 12:24 AM
Seals do use vehicles. They have been known to improvise using captured toyota pickups in Iraq and mounting a .50cal in the back. Thy also have that little dune buggy thing dont recall the name of it but it also carries a .50 cal.
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 9, 2004 10:03 AM
Everyone here has really good points. I don't think anyone is/was a jerk. I got some good ideas off of this, and I appreciate it. I'll probly go with the suggestions from renarts, and make the road curved. As for back-dating: I'll try. What happened was the detail kit/back-date set I got had prts for both A1 and A2 versions, and I put a couple of the A2 parts on before I realized there wasa difference, and also before I thought of the dio idea. Well, that's what I am here for, to learn from my mistakes and those of others. Hopefully this will turn out OK for my first real dio attempt. Thanks everyone. I will update with pics...
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by loneeagle48 on Friday, July 9, 2004 5:40 PM
Just do it and have fun with it. Thats what I think modeling is about---------------------------- Stephen Good luck , Have fun!!!!
Seals are crazy. I have the papers to prove it . You on't jump from a plane in less its on fire. You don't swim to a shore and go hunting bad guys with wet weapons yet I did. And pouud of it. Nam 68-69
  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
Posted by lizardqing on Friday, July 9, 2004 6:44 PM
You are already doing better than me, I have never drew out a plan, just started putting things where I thought they looked good.
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 9, 2004 8:23 PM
I am having a lot of fun with this, I agree that IS what it's all about. I decided to call the dio "Run Through the Jungle", sort of a take off on the CCR song. I updated to the newest version of the plan: http://public.fotki.com/dawgfighter/seal_diorama/07092004_082215pm.html
JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS
FREE NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy.