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Pz IIF/G
Posted by gander_demon on Saturday, October 16, 2004 8:24 PM
I read the Dec01 ed of FSM and became inspired. I am modelling Tamiya's old PzII with some Eduard PE and scratchbuilding other parts. Trouble is now I have added the new intakes on the engine deck I can' t for the life of me find anywhere any reference photos or drawings of the powerplant or cooling system. Anyone know where I can?
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Posted by JCon on Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:36 PM
Happy Modeling, Joe Favorite Quote: It's what you learn after you know it all that counts!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:38 PM
Tank Workshop makes a Pz II engine for about $5.
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Posted by wipw on Monday, October 18, 2004 9:37 AM
I built one from the same article. Was my first after getting back into modeling. I was in the same quandry, and I bought the Tanks Workshop engine. It is pretty basic and comes with no air cleaners or instructions. I never did find much on the engine, etc, while I was building it, so I painted the rear inside of the hull flat black and let it go at that. I sitll have the resin engine sitting around incase I ever decide to do another. After I finished it, I found some interior pictures on the AFV Interiors site, which, as far as I know, is not active anymore. Someone on here copied a lot of the sites info to their pc. You could open a topic about it and see if anyone responds.

My IIG is pictured below in my sig. I recently got 2nd place in the armor division of my regional with it.

I hope you have as much fun doing yours as I did. Good luck with it.

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Posted by gander_demon on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:56 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Bill your Pz II looks great, I'll post a copy of mine when I finish.Smile [:)]

I can't really find any more references - I've already spent over $100 AD on the kit, accessories and references, so I think I will just bash a few parts from my spares box in and see how we go. It won't be all that visible from the exterior anyway.Wink [;)]

The Eduard set I am using (35350) I highly recommend, although the fenders being PE are a lot thinner than the kit and a little fiddley to work with, but look a lot more realistic.


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Posted by wipw on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:44 AM
Thanks. I really did enjoy doing this guy! One thing I found that was really too bad about the Eduard set is that when they redesigned it from the one shown in the article, they left out the rings for the idler wheels. It's kind of funny because when I was reading the article for the first time, one of the first things that really stood out to me was the look of the idlers!

I managed to find and pick up one of the older sets. I measured the inside and outside diameters of the rings and then used a circle cutter to cut them out of a piece of .005 plastic. (I'd use .010 if I were to do it again!!) Then cut down the idlers as per the article and attached the plastic rings. The reason I did this rather than use the ones in the Eduard set is that there was nothing else I was using from that set (the new one is much better in coverage and detail than the old one, other than the rings), and I didn't want to "trash" the set just for them.

I've got one of Tamiya's Marder II's and I may use them on that kit. We'll see.

Have fun with it.
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Posted by wildwilliam on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 1:57 PM
gander,
send me an email to the link at the bottom of my post.
i have the AFV pages on my home PC.
if there is a page w/ good Pz II engine shot,
i will email you the page.
i used to have them here at work, but i got busted for storing them on the network.
:-)
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Posted by wipw on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 4:48 PM
Ed, How much room do they take all together?? I printed off a bunch of them before the site went down, but not sure I got all of them.
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Posted by gander_demon on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:12 PM
Originally posted by wipw

It's kind of funny because when I was reading the article for the first time, one of the first things that really stood out to me was the look of the idlers!

I found the same problem. I have the DML IIC DAK kit ( I plan on building a Polish campaign IIC at some stage) which has both types of idler wheels but only one set of rims. Like you I used a circular template and cut rims using 010 sheet styrene. I can't speak highly enough of the rest of the Eduard kit though as it is really thorough.

I have also modified the road wheels as the bolts were recessed and not raised as in the Tamiya kit. Initially I drilled them out, but I wasn't happy with that and have found a suitable replacement by using some spare PzIV hubs out of my spares box and replacing the originals - slightly oversized, but barely noticeable.

I am using the DML track links - I have the Model Kasten tracks as well but I will save those for the IIC in the hope I do not have to cut off the drive sprocket teeth and individually realign them. So far so good.

I have just ordered the Osprey book on Light Panzers (couldn't help myself) in the hope of there being a cutaway diagram. (it would appear so from the cover).
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Posted by SkippyOU110 on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:43 PM
I too am getting ready to build this kit after reading the article in the Dec 2001 issue. I also purchased the Eduard 35350 PE set and also noticed the lack of rings for the idlers. I purchased the Tank Workshop engine as well as a resin transmission and the tracks from Model Kasten. Along with that I bought the Osprey book on Light Panzers. It does have one cutaway diagram (the one on the cover) inside with many of the parts labelled. Unfortunately it will be a while before I can begin on it because Field Artillery Officer Basic School keeps me quite busy.
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Posted by wipw on Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:21 AM
QUOTE: I am using the DML track links - I have the Model Kasten tracks as well but I will save those for the IIC in the hope I do not have to cut off the drive sprocket teeth and individually realign them. So far so good.


I am making a big assumption here, but I would think that the spacing of the links is the same for the Model Kasten and the Friul tracks. I replaced the Tamiya sprockets with a set of Friul sprockets for the II. They are cast in white metal and worked great. Wasn't anymore clean up than you'd expect from a white metal casting. Fit of the teeth was perfect. The hardest part was getting the Tamiya nylon sprocket bushings to stay glued into the Friul sprockets. I tried super glue, but they kept coming out. I think I finally wound up using a bit of epoxy. They are # aw20. (They are not in stock, but are orderable from Great Models. They may be available from some of the other web stores.)
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Posted by wildwilliam on Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:42 AM
Bill,
the whole site, or just the pz II stuff?
typical pages are between 700KB and 1.5 MB
the whole site fits on a cd.
send me an email.
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