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German aerial ID panels (flag?)

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German aerial ID panels (flag?)
Posted by erush on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:30 AM
Does anyone know if you can buy the German aerial ID panel's anywhere? I've seen a lot of them in pictures of models and dioramas but have been unable to locate any.

Does everyone just make thier own and if so what kind of material is good? I was thinking of using some kind of fine cotton?? and painting it. The problem would be keeping the cloth from unraveling I would think.

Has anyone done this and what suggestions do y'all have?

Eric
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:59 AM
Are you talking about the nazi flag used as recognition aid during WWII? in 'normal' modeling scales, ie 1/35 to 1/76, ctioth would be way too overscale. Try some fairly thick aluminium foil (or similar, like what covers the containers of margerine or yogurth, or the foil around the nice wine bottles (an excuse to have a drink!), cut to shape, place on the model and paint. The Svastika could be done with a decal, if your flag is fairly flat. Another way to do it is to roll out some epoxy putty (like Milliput). Use baby powder on the milliput and tthe rolling pin (a pen for instance) to get really thin sheets. Cut into shape, plce over the model and let dry. If your model has been slightly dusted with baby powder, the hardened miliput will come off easily and you can then paint/decal... Easy.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:08 AM
I think he means the pennate. the little triangle flags on the aerials.

Whats a Svastika? LOL just kidding my spelling can be bad too.
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Posted by erush on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:15 AM
I am talking about the flag laid on a deck or hood used as a recognition aid.

dj I like your idea of the wine bottle foilBig Smile [:D] I guess it's best to wait until the next day to try to paint it huh?Tongue [:P]

I'll have to experiment I guess, maybe try the milliput too.

Eric
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:09 PM
I've had an Idea along these lines for a while now, just haven't tried it out yet. Goes like this:

Cut out a panel of tissue (gift-wrapping tissue, not kleenex) the size of a "scale" flag and draw the circle & swastika with heavy pencil or thin-line marker.

Paint the colors as needed. Spray it red, then mask the circle (with a template) and then brush paint the swastika using a straight edge as a guide. Paint the bottom black to add an automatic bit of depth and shadow.

Glue it down, folded or draped as desired and let dry.

Touch-up as needed.


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Posted by erush on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:11 PM
I'm going to try that Blackwolf. I think you could spray the flag and it still be flexible to arrange as wanted on the model. Then coat with a white glue/water mix to hold it's shape.

Hmmm, I think I even have some tissue lying about....

Eric
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Posted by Spamicus on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:55 PM
You may find soaking tissue in white glue/water mix before painting works a little better. Of course you have to decide on your shape first as it won't bend much after the glue treatment.

Steve

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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 7:57 PM
Erush,

Just be advised that you probably will have to do some touch up at the end. The wrapping-grade tissue may not hold the paint when flexed, and it could flake off a bit.

Another thing I thought of was to draw the circle and the Iwastika as above, but then glue it down and let dry before painting. That way you only have to paint the areas which are exposed. I dunno which way I'd try this myself, though. As I said, i haven't actually done one of these yet, this is all theory! Tongue [:P]

Anyhoo, try it on something "scrap" first and see how it works. Good luck!


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Posted by erush on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:52 PM
I like the sound of your theory. I'm going to try it both ways. I think if I can get the color opaque enough without too much paint it might be pliable. If not I'll try your other suggestion and mark it, form it, glue etc, then go back and paint.
When I get to it, I'll be sure to let y'all know.

Eric
Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.     "Friendly fire...isn't"
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:28 PM
Good deal, I may actually have cause to try this out myself soon. Where's that Panzer III...


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