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                        Need some advice on my first piece of Armor.

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Need some advice on my first piece of Armor.
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:45 AM
                        Well i already have gotten advice from Sherman freak and others to get a small tank or like a flakpanzer or the like. If someone could compile a good list of "beginner" Armor peices that would kick A$$ !!

                        Also i am really new to weathering is there a good online source for learning this?

                        This is for future refernce due to my unemployment from a car accident, but at least i can plan:)

                        Thanks all
                        ~H~
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:26 PM
                        Some good choices for beginning armor are:

                        Tamiya M4A3 Sherman (skip the side armor: they're inaccurate)
                        Tamiya Pz III ausf L
                        Tamiya Cromwell
                        DML Panther A or D (but has individual track links, though)
                        Tamiya Panther ausf G (several variants)
                        Tamiya Tiger I, Afrika or Early Production
                        Tamiya Tiger II (either new molds)
                        Tamiya 3.7cm flak Mobelwagen
                        Skybow Dodge WC 52/53 (delicate parts but nice)
                        Academy M-12 SPG
                        Tamiya M26 Pershing
                        Tamiya T-55 Soviet MBT
                        DML T-34/85 (indy links)
                        DML ISU 122/152 series (indy links)


                        Good list. I'm sure others will give their thoughts, too.
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                        Moses
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Long Island
                        Posted by Moses on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:38 PM
                        Hefty list there eric...

                        I agree about the Tamiya Panzer III Ausf. L. I would also recommend Tamiya's Stug III Ausf. G, it is a great kit and so easy to build.


                        Cheers

                        Mo/Rob
                        "ZIM FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER!!"
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:49 PM
                        Tamiya’s T 34, or Pz II should be good starter kits, and are relatively cheap (you may not feel as bad, if you make a mistake)

                        I also think that Italeri’s Pz IV H is a decent kit for a beginner. It has some tricky parts, but that can be great for a learning process without stretching the budget.

                        If money is no object, I would suggest a Tiger I early production by Tamiya. I just built the late production, and am in the process of building the early one with a PE set. These kits really fly together, and are quite accurate.

                        Good luck
                        edog
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                        M1abramsRules
                        • Member since
                          June 2003
                        Posted by M1abramsRules on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:18 PM
                        I haven't done too much yet in my career (ok, ok, "hobby") as a modeler, but I didn't have any problems on tamiya's hanomag 251/1
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:21 PM
                        Tamiya-
                        tiger 1
                        panther
                        panzer III
                        panzer IV
                        t-34/76
                        t-34/85
                        su-122
                        M1A1
                        Challenger
                        M26
                        Stug III
                        M4A3 Sherman
                        Marder III
                        KV-1
                        and pretty much any newer tamiya kit and trumpeter kit.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:26 PM
                        Ok i wentt out (before all these lists came in and picked up this kit:
                        Tamiya West German Leopard A4...did i do bad???
                        I have not opend it yet but is it a really hard one, or will i be ok??
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:36 PM
                        Heres a pic of the parts:
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:06 PM
                        The Tamiya Panzer II Afrika Korp is the EASIEST beginner tank I have seen so far.
                        The kit should cost about 10 bucks, and includes figures.
                        You can pick up 2 kits, practice on one, and be serious with the other and still be at the 20 dollar mark and have the same thing with figures.

                        Panzer II dio I recently posted
                        http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3944

                        Good Luck and Have Fun,
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:34 PM
                        ok now here's another question, were german tanks or any for that matter ever painted black?
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                        okieboy
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by okieboy on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:44 PM
                        I have seen some prett creative paint jobs on armor. Some of those being captured German tanks in Kubinka, Russia. I haven't seen one yet that was black.
                        "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm." George Orwell
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:45 PM
                        Then i will do one in black:)
                        I hope it comes out ok...we shall see:P
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                        tigerman
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
                        Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:14 PM
                        Just curious as to why you want to paint the tank black. German tank were painted Panzer grey, known as Schwartzgrau, or dark yellow, known as Dunkelgelb. I can't think of any other coutntry that were black either. Good luck.

                        http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

                         Eric 

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:31 PM
                        I dunno i want a slightly different tank...i am weird i guess, could be a special night ops tank...lol
                        If i am being way weird please let me know!!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:41 PM
                        May I advise painting your models whatever color you want!! I would suggest a very dark gray though with a black wash, this way those details will show up better.
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                        M1abramsRules
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                          June 2003
                        Posted by M1abramsRules on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:43 PM
                        NO WAY, you are not being weird!!! I always do my own camo jobs, and I'm 100% behind people who paint however they want. (as long as its not an airplane mural or somethingBig Smile [:D]) finish it and let's see some pics!!!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:50 PM
                        LOL ok ok i am going something dark;)
                        I will get pics of the progress as i go!
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                        okieboy
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by okieboy on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:32 PM
                        Hmm... a black tank. Wouldn't that be akin to riding a white horse into battle? (You just be asking for it!)
                        Definitely do a wash of some type to bring out the details. I'm curious to see how it will turn out.

                        Roy
                        "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm." George Orwell
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:53 PM
                        Ok also i want you all to keep in mind this is my first tank and i am hand painting it since i am absolutely awefull with airbrushing and cans...lol
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:47 PM
                        Ok here is the first of many progress pics, how is this for a color???? It's Citidel Shadow Grey. Oh and I know i need work on my seams and all, i just got all excited...think of this as my test tank:)
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                        tigerman
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
                        Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:38 PM
                        Hey Horus, I hope that you didn't take what I said personally. I agree with everyone, paint as you want to. My daughter would have painted it purple! I was wondering what you built before trying this tank. What made you decide to try one? Have fun and we look forward to more pictures.

                        http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

                         Eric 

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:48 PM
                        Welll not at all sir:)
                        I have done a number of cars, boats and yes...PLANES...OMG DUCK...lol
                        I have always liked tanks and really want to do a DIO of one in action or something...so away i went to get one:)

                        I am still futzing with this one tho...the turret has got me stumped...i dunno gonna keep at it tho:)
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:40 PM
                        Side shot with the track installed (not fully just on for pic) Now the upper parts of the wheels should be flat black correct??


                        So far so good...this is ony the first coat, just showing them :) Lemme know if i missed something!

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:49 PM
                        don't worry about what you're going to do with the paint.. if it looks right to you, then it is right. you should do this hobby for the fun of it, not to make it confusing.. Big Smile [:D]

                        donny-jakarta
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