ARRGH.....sez I......ARRGH

Rob Gronovius

Member since
December 2002
From: Fort Knox

Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, August 4, 2003 2:17 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by HORUS

Rob i sw some skybow kits at a lhs here i can look and see what they are...what kit was it the bulldog?

Yes, it was the Bulldog, but someone on Armorama was selling one. I got it for $25+4 s/h. Should be here in a week. The only other one I had a line on was one on Ebay from Hong Kong for $20+10 s/h.

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M1abramsRules

Member since
June 2003

Posted by M1abramsRules on Monday, August 4, 2003 12:41 PM

nope nothing there, great site though! would it have been green with german markings, if sso what kind of markings. seeing as it will be a british vehicle when I buy it, and I don't have much in the way of spare decals. I think I'll make it british. I would go to Prince Albert today, and buy it, but its a holiday. Sad [:(]

as shermanfreak well knows, right?

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shermanfreak

Member since
January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Monday, August 4, 2003 9:58 AM

The Germans used captured British Universal Carriers for this Abrams. I have no pics of this particular conversion but I would imagine they were a field modification so just about anything goes. I seem to remember seeing them mounted on the forward engine bulkhead though ?????
Check out AFV Interiors for references of the Universal Carrier.
Here's their NEW link.

http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/

If you can't find anything there let me know, I may have some references for the Carrier.

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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wibhi2

Member since
March 2003
From: Brooklyn

Posted by wibhi2 on Monday, August 4, 2003 9:32 AM

Sounds like it would be a captured allied with german field modification - ammo supply ya know.

At some point I would like to do a before and after of a captured M8 that I saw pictures of..

Jeeze guys, thanks. I feel much better now that I know I am not the only one

3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation

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M1abramsRules

Member since
June 2003

Posted by M1abramsRules on Monday, August 4, 2003 12:39 AM

oh, do you have pics of that Robert? or any pics of the interior? I am trying to do research and I can't find any good interior pics.

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M1abramsRules

Member since
June 2003

Posted by M1abramsRules on Monday, August 4, 2003 12:37 AM

sniff sniff,... you're mean! ok next question, do I make it a german gun with a captured vehicle or do I make a british vehicle with a captured gun???

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shermanfreak

Member since
January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Monday, August 4, 2003 12:19 AM

QUOTE: who ever heard of a pak 35/36 on universal carrier?

Actually Abrams ... the Germans did

Original Designation: Bren Gun Carrier / Universal Carrier
Original Role: light transporter
German Designation: Gepanzerter Machinengewehr Trager Bren 731(e)
Conversions/Role/Use:combat/reconnaissance/policing/training
Note: Bren Gun Carriers were converted to various roles such as:
Gep MG Trager Br 731(e) with Maxim MG08 gun,
Panzerjager Bren(e) with 37mm PaK 35/36 L/45 gun,
Panzerjager Bren(e) with three 88mm Raketenpanzerbusche 43/54,
Schneeschaufel auf Bren(e) - snow plow,
2cm Flak38 auf Fahrgestell Bren(e) with 20mm Flak 38 gun,

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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M1abramsRules

Member since
June 2003

Posted by M1abramsRules on Monday, August 4, 2003 12:04 AM

I don't have to worry about anyone issuing my kitbash! who ever heard of a pak 35/36 on universal carrier? Wink [;)]

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Cobrahistorian

Member since
December 2002
From: Aaaaah.... Alpha Apaches... A beautiful thing!

Posted by Cobrahistorian on Sunday, August 3, 2003 11:59 PM

Yes, such is the nature of scratchbuilt projects. I'm 75% complete with my scratchbuilt AH-1F conversion for Revell's 1/32 Cobra. I'm anticipating the kit announcement any second.
Same thing happened with my kitbashed 1/35th UH-1H. I was halfway done and Panda popped their kit on us...

I was thinking about converting my M113 to a 548 after I finish this project. I know the kit's available, but I wanted to try my hand at it, since we've got a functional one out at the Texas Air Museum and I can add lots of scratchbuilt detail. Plus, its lots of fun to drive!

"1-6 is in hot"

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 3, 2003 8:00 PM

Rob i sw some skybow kits at a lhs here i can look and see what they are...what kit was it the bulldog?

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Rob Gronovius

Member since
December 2002
From: Fort Knox

Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, August 3, 2003 7:07 PM

Yes, I was one minor aftermarket part away from collecting up everything needed to build an accurate Tamiya M41 Walker Bulldog (about $80-90 total). All I needed was the Tank Workshop mantlet and mufflers. Of course, after I get these items, both Skybow and AFV CLub issue great Bulldog kits!

To carry on the curse, I see the Skybow kit but pass it up since I was out of town and didn't want to keep up with the kit during my travels. Bad move, only time I ever saw the kit on the shelf and now Skybow went out of business. I can't win.

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shermanfreak

Member since
January 2003

Posted by shermanfreak on Sunday, August 3, 2003 6:53 PM

definition of Scratch Build - a project that you start and have 3/4 complete when a major model company will announce the pending release of the aforementioned vehicle.

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert

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wibhi2

Member since
March 2003
From: Brooklyn

ARRGH.....sez I......ARRGH

Posted by wibhi2 on Sunday, August 3, 2003 11:33 AM

Just got this months issue of FSM and as I am devoring the mag on a first read, what do I see? An article on the M3 75MM GMC.

Why am I out of joint on this, you may ask? Because, I've been planning on doing 2 conversions of the Tamiya's M3 on this particular subject for a couple of years. Collected manuels and all sorts of printed material(even strated on the correction of the drive and ideller wheels)...... Ahhh, well - such is the hobby.

One of the conversions was going to use an ex-Toms Model Works French 1895 75MM gun with everything else scratched built and the other was going to use the resin conversion from Warriors (VLS).

I stopped because I was have a heck of a time recasting Tamiyas
sprockets for corrective surgery. Some day, I suppose.....some day Big Smile [:D]

3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation

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