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My 1/72nd Winter Panther
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 14, 2007 6:50 AM

Thought I would post this up as was rather pleased with a) the model and b) the photo (which for once was in focus!!)

I don't usually build in 1/72 nd but some cut price Airfix kits were on offer and who can refuse?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 14, 2007 7:02 AM
Your pic is not showing for me unfortunately.
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Posted by the doog on Monday, May 14, 2007 11:47 AM
 MadMel wrote:
Your pic is not showing for me unfortunately.
Yeah I'm not seeing the photo either, edorc. I'm one of the apparently few 1/72 scale fans on this site so I'd love to check it out if you can get it figured out!
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Posted by ABARNE on Monday, May 14, 2007 2:03 PM

Your photo wasn't showing up because you accidentally included two http's in the image URL. 

I often build 1/72 as a cheap change of pace.  From what I can see out of the one photo, the build under the snow looks pretty good.  The camo looks nice.  The snow looks a bit off to me, or more specifically, its distibution.  Maybe this is just due to the camera angle and lighting of the photo, but to me the snow on the front of the tank it looks quite heavy, as though the tank had been sitting under the falling snow for several hours, while in the rear, it seems a lot lighter as though the tank haw only subject to occasional snow flurries.   

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Posted by crockett on Monday, May 14, 2007 3:26 PM

Since a lot of the problems I see are in the kit (Airfix) and not your doing, I'll just say that for a few more bucks, perhaps a DML 1/72nd, or a Tamiya 1/48th Panther would be the way to go in the future. The ridiculous cupola is a prime example.

Secondly, on the construction side, I think the mantlet is upside down. The gunners sight aperature holes(s) (smaller holes), (should be two hole binocular on the D) should be on the opposite side in line with the commanders station, and the larger hole , closer to the main gun is the coax port, which should be on the loaders side. I could be wrong, but maybe some of the other German armor guys can check me on this. This could be a gross error on Airfixs' part too.

Even though the kit may have been a good deal, it is a dog. Save the extra few bucks, buy a quality modern rendition, and show us what can be done on a kit that will do you some justice.

regards,

Steve

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Posted by the doog on Monday, May 14, 2007 4:26 PM
 crockett wrote:

Since a lot of the problems I see are in the kit (Airfix) and not your doing, I'll just say that for a few more bucks, perhaps a DML 1/72nd, or a Tamiya 1/48th Panther would be the way to go in the future. The ridiculous cupola is a prime example.

Secondly, on the construction side, I think the mantlet is upside down. The gunners sight aperature holes(s) (smaller holes), (should be two hole binocular on the D) should be on the opposite side in line with the commanders station, and the larger hole , closer to the main gun is the coax port, which should be on the loaders side. I could be wrong, but maybe some of the other German armor guys can check me on this. This could be a gross error on Airfixs' part too.

Even though the kit may have been a good deal, it is a dog. Save the extra few bucks, buy a quality modern rendition, and show us what can be done on a kit that will do you some justice.

regards,

Steve

Yup, I agree totally with crockett...and your mantlet IS upside-down.

I did a very similar model with the 1/72 ESCI Panther A; the snow is a difficult thing to depict accurately. I think I used successive layers of white glue impregnated havily with talcum powder, and aggressively brushed off the loose particles after each application until the final one, in order to effectively build it up.

I agree that starting with a better kit is your first priority... 

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Posted by ABARNE on Monday, May 14, 2007 9:39 PM

 crockett wrote:
Secondly, on the construction side, I think the mantlet is upside down. The gunners sight aperature holes(s) (smaller holes), (should be two hole binocular on the D) should be on the opposite side in line with the commanders station, and the larger hole , closer to the main gun is the coax port, which should be on the loaders side. I could be wrong, but maybe some of the other German armor guys can check me on this. This could be a gross error on Airfixs' part too.

The mantlet's orientation looks fine to me.  I think what may be causing you and the Doog to think it is upside-down is that Airfix apparently included the wrong mantlet.  It has only a single sight hole as would be found on an Ausf A instead of the dual sight holes found on the Ausf D.

Andy

 

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Posted by crockett on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:49 PM
 ABARNE wrote:

 crockett wrote:
Secondly, on the construction side, I think the mantlet is upside down. The gunners sight aperature holes(s) (smaller holes), (should be two hole binocular on the D) should be on the opposite side in line with the commanders station, and the larger hole , closer to the main gun is the coax port, which should be on the loaders side. I could be wrong, but maybe some of the other German armor guys can check me on this. This could be a gross error on Airfixs' part too.

The mantlet's orientation looks fine to me.  I think what may be causing you and the Doog to think it is upside-down is that Airfix apparently included the wrong mantlet.  It has only a single sight hole as would be found on an Ausf A instead of the dual sight holes found on the Ausf D.

Andy

 

 

Hi Andy,

Yeah I thought about that, but the SIZE of the sight holes is the key here:

So, even if it isn't upside down, I think we can all agree that the two issues are:

Monocular mantlet is incorrect

Size of the aperature is WAY overscale

regards,

Steve

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Posted by ABARNE on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:47 PM

 crockett wrote:
So, even if it isn't upside down, I think we can all agree that the two issues are:

Monocular mantlet is incorrect

Size of the aperature is WAY overscale

regards,

Steve

Yeah, I was going strictly by location, without having noticed the size disparity, too small for the coax, to large for the sight. 

Panther A with the monocular sight

Panther D with the binocular sight
 

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:16 PM
snow is way overscale and poorly applied...try microballons for this scale...as it is looks like someone was eating powdered donuts over this thing... 
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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:03 PM
Mannstein, that last comment was wholly unecessary...BTW, where's your work?!?!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:05 PM
...I'll be posting soon...stay tuned....
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Posted by Jester75 on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:12 PM

 the doog wrote:
BTW, where's your work?!?!

 Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

Eric

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:44 PM
Jester, you need to get back to that StuG....
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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:05 PM
Do not feed the trolls [troll] Enough already!

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:00 AM
...you could reconfigure the diorama to represent a tank that has just overrun a soviet field bakery unit, hence the mounds of flour on the front hull and turret...just show some pow's milling around wearing aprons and some happy germans eating fresh bread...
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Posted by crockett on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:42 PM
That really helps.....a real comedian....my vote is the moderator should ban your Do not feed the trolls [troll] aCensored [censored]
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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:30 PM
I'd love to the see all 1-2 names that supported you. Right............

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:50 PM

For my 10,000th post I want to resurect a thread that led to my very first suspension...seems like so long ago...thought my *MOJO's in here would enjoy reading a bit of nostalgia...enjoy (wipes tear from eye)...

...oh, one more thing: ZUIHO !

*DISCLAIMER: The word is MOJO, not MO_O with an "F".

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Posted by Jester75 on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:08 PM

OMG................ROFLMAO

Eric

 

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Posted by oddmanrush on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:29 PM

Wow that was a good read, funniest thing I've read in a while. You certainly didn't hold back there...

Jon

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:41 PM

Cough, cough, I was not your pal back then was I? Wink Well people do change.

Sad not to see Andy (ABARNE) and Steve (Crockett) anymore.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Jester75 on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:00 PM

Yeah, Steve did some bang up Panthers with hot-knife zimm IIRC...

Eric

 

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Posted by Wabashwheels on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:16 PM

We seem to ease into our spats nowadays.  Back then it was, POW!, Right for the throat!  Rick.

 

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:26 PM

Manstein's revenge

For my 10,000th post I want to resurect a thread that led to my very first suspension...seems like so long ago...thought my *MOJO's in here would enjoy reading a bit of nostalgia...enjoy (wipes tear from eye)...

...oh, one more thing: ZUIHO !

*DISCLAIMER: The word is MOJO, not MO_O with an "F".

Oh so THAT'S what's going on here--I was thinking "Who the heck is resurrecting THIS old horse?!"

Congrat,s Manny! Glad you stuck around!

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:40 PM

Doog... your getting close to... to the magic 10K... Big Smile

 

 

Manny... Manny... manny....!

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Posted by hkshooter on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:34 PM

Wow.

I had not been privy to the beginning of this thread when it happened. And now, after reading it and ROTFLMAO, my gut hurts so bad I feel like I just did 100 sit ups.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:20 PM

tigerman

Cough, cough, I was not your pal back then was I?

That's okay, I forgive you, you didn't know any better...Wink

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:26 PM

Mansteins revenge

 tigerman:

Cough, cough, I was not your pal back then was I?

That's okay, I forgive you, you didn't know any better...Wink

Toast

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 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 5:59 AM

the doog

 Manstein's revenge:

For my 10,000th post I want to resurect a thread that led to my very first suspension...seems like so long ago...thought my *MOJO's in here would enjoy reading a bit of nostalgia...enjoy (wipes tear from eye)...

...oh, one more thing: ZUIHO !

*DISCLAIMER: The word is MOJO, not MO_O with an "F".

 

Oh so THAT'S what's going on here--I was thinking "Who the heck is resurrecting THIS old horse?!"

Congrat,s Manny! Glad you stuck around!

Thanks, doog---me too.  You are getting close to the 5-digit club yourself!

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