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Posted by tigerman on Monday, November 12, 2007 4:07 PM

This is just my opinion, but I find in most cases, nothing wrong with OOB. Half the time, you couldn't tell an AM gun from the kit's, if it's properly done up without seams and such. I believe the weathering is the key and makes or breaks the entire build, along with the paint-job. Though I admire people whom go the extra-mile to spruce up their kits, the majority of PE and AM can get lost in the weathering process. However I know accuracy and building pleasure lead to most people adding AM. Nothing wrong with that.

In saying all this, your weathering, much like Ron's just give off a different aura from your builds, and could take a plain finish like mine and push it over the top. Congrats on your consignment, for I imagine you've opened up some doors for yourself.

Have a safe time in Deutchland.

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 Eric 

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Posted by the doog on Monday, November 12, 2007 11:20 AM
 jthurston wrote:

2 things:

1) I'm forced to take back what I said earlier about this build looking too dark. To me, in the other set of pics, it had a 'wet' look, as if it'd just been pulled out of a lake or something. But in these pics, it looks almost too perfect. As always, Doogo, your build is an inspiration.

2) The object on the front right fender - Is that a jack block? Was it common to see jack blocks painted in the overall color, or would this be a one-off thing? Just wondering, because in some cases it may look better int he overall color, while in others it may look better in a 'natural' color (wood, lt. brown, etc).

Either way, you've nailed yet another project. Thumbs Up [tup]

You might have a good point there j!

You know, to be nonest, I usually paint them a wood color, and just overlooked it! I thin I'll paint it like that--I did go through the trouble of "graining" it with the exacto blade. 

Thnks for the sharp eyes! I'll do that!  Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by jthurston on Monday, November 12, 2007 11:01 AM

2 things:

1) I'm forced to take back what I said earlier about this build looking too dark. To me, in the other set of pics, it had a 'wet' look, as if it'd just been pulled out of a lake or something. But in these pics, it looks almost too perfect. As always, Doogo, your build is an inspiration.

2) The object on the front right fender - Is that a jack block? Was it common to see jack blocks painted in the overall color, or would this be a one-off thing? Just wondering, because in some cases it may look better int he overall color, while in others it may look better in a 'natural' color (wood, lt. brown, etc).

Either way, you've nailed yet another project. Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by dahut on Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:36 PM
Very nice doogeroo. Congrats!
Cheers, David
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Posted by DHM on Sunday, November 11, 2007 6:35 PM
 the doog wrote:

My rusting technique will be described in the January Finescale article on "SPOOKED!", my burnt-out Pz IV-J article. I recently received an email from Aaron Skinner telling me that the article would focus on the building and weathering of the Pz IV,and that the rest of the article ( all the rest of the info on the finishing of the base and figures) will be available online on this site somewhere. It's really not hard--just rough up the plastic with an old, stiff brush and some Tenax R-7 glue (in truth, any will work; Tenax is just fast) and then base coat with a dark rust. When dry, add a thickerish wash of lighter rust colors and while that is wet, sprinkle and/or directly stipple in the pastels of various rust shades, and let dry. You can scrub some of them off when they dry if you''re not pleased with the colors or add additional stabs of wash here and there to provide surface variation--remember, the more layers and subtle variations, the better.

I can't wait to see it!

 the doog wrote:
Thanks agian for the comments, gys! I guess I'lll start on that new tutorial this fine Sunday morning! Be loooking for it!

once again, I can't wait to see it!  I've never tried silly putty marking before, so it should be helpful. 

 the doog wrote:
P.S.--Aaron Skinner was also looking over the full Hetzer article which I had sent him as he wrote me that email and said that it "looked great" and that he was excited by the over-150 WIP photos and the detailed information O had provided.  He said that "this is the kind of article that we love!"!--so keep your fingers crossed--again! Big Smile [:D]

My fingers are crossed.  It really is an excellent article.  In fact, it's the best weathering article I've ever seen!Make a Toast [#toast]

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:54 AM

Congrats doog on getting this one done and in time to have a "care-free" trip to Germany! The new owners will no doubt be pleased and you've got another build to be proud of. Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:52 AM

Eric, Dale, stikpusher, redleg, MIke and Manny, Eddy and Steve, and Ben--thanks you guys! Nice for y'all to take the time to comment!

You know, I actually skipped using powders of any kind on this build, as I figured with the shipping and literal handling by the Helo crew once they get it, that it would all just get displaced, or smeared in the end. I did use a touch of regular artist's pastels on the muffler there; that's what the lighter "spot" is--just a touch of bright orangey pastel. 

My rusting technique will be described in the January Finescale article on "SPOOKED!", my burnt-out Pz IV-J article. I recently received an email from Aaron Skinner telling me that the article would focus on the building and weathering of the Pz IV,and that the rest of the article ( all the rest of the info on the finishing of the base and figures) will be available online on this site somewhere. It's really not hard--just rough up the plastic with an old, stiff brush and some Tenax R-7 glue (in truth, any will work; Tenax is just fast) and then base coat with a dark rust. When dry, add a thickerish wash of lighter rust colors and while that is wet, sprinkle and/or directly stipple in the pastels of various rust shades, and let dry. You can scrub some of them off when they dry if you''re not pleased with the colors or add additional stabs of wash here and there to provide surface variation--remember, the more layers and subtle variations, the better.

Thanks agian for the comments, gys! I guess I'lll start on that new tutorial this fine Sunday morning! Be loooking for it!

P.S.--Aaron Skinner was also looking over the full Hetzer article which I had sent him as he wrote me that email and said that it "looked great" and that he was excited by the over-150 WIP photos and the detailed information O had provided.  He said that "this is the kind of article that we love!"!--so keep your fingers crossed--again! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Carves on Sunday, November 11, 2007 6:13 AM

Pretty good Doog.

If I were you, I add just a slight dust on the top and rear hatch, just to break stuff up. Otherwise everything looks good man. Thumbs Up [tup]

Now, you start to build fast like Ron (biffa), perhaps you manage to build a tank factory in your basement ? Mischief [:-,]

Steve, we need to smuggle one of your spy can inside Doog basement and see what's up. Whistling [:-^]

---
Ben

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Posted by disastermaster on Sunday, November 11, 2007 5:02 AM

 Thumbs Up [tup]Looking great Karl, although I like the other one better. From the  small rusty spot on the lead off pipe (at the muffler), to the finish of the tracks and wheels, Make a Toast [#toast] it’s apparent that we’re dealing with a pro builder here.                                                                                                                   

Now……. just don’t get taken hostage by a terr Evil [}:)] on your way to Germany. Boohoo [BH] I can just see the forum trying to divvy up the ransom to get you back!                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Steve

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Posted by BraileScale-Freak on Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:43 AM

the doog,

I agree with you about the Hetzer tank being an ugly looking tank but you sure have done justice to this one!  Excellent weathering!  Looks very used . . .  I especially like how you did the wheels and tracks.  And the rusted out exhust adds a good touch of interest. 

Excellent build!  Excellent photos!  Your an inspiration to us all!  Sure enjoy viewing your builds.  Keep up the excellent work and tutorials. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

-Eddy    

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:02 PM
...although too heavily weathered for my taste, top workmanship here...your clients should be pleased with the end-result...5 stars!
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Posted by madmike on Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:42 PM

With all these superb Hetzer's being built, I am now looking at the UM 1:72 Hetzer (late) as a possible next project.....

Someone STOP me! 

Doog, any tut's from you are well worth saving and re-reading. Please do it!

cheers

Mike 

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Posted by redleg12 on Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:20 PM

Well just another great build. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] I always love to see your suff with the best weathering.  Mischief [:-,] I'm sure those guys will be proud of it. You should get them to send you the cover picture they use along with a print of the kit box. Might make a nice framed exibit, at least for your miniature armory. Wink [;)].

Hopefully you enjoy the "farterland" Laugh [(-D]. I'm sure the turkey will wait until you get back.

Safe trip Karl.

Rounds Complete!!

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:07 PM
Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow] We are not worthy! We are not worthy! Another first class build! Your results are nothing less than superb. How about a tutorial on your rusty exhaust technique sometime? Or have you covered that already? OOB obviously works for you.

 

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Posted by Slightly Altered on Saturday, November 10, 2007 8:27 PM

You did it again Doog, this thing looks amazing! Make sure that when Helo put's this in their advert for their figures they get a copy of it on here so we can see it. Love the way this look's well used.

As for any tutorials/ write-ups on your methods I'm always willing to learn from experienced builder's, so in my honest opinion post away.

Congrats on the commission Doog, it turn out great!

Dale 

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Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, November 10, 2007 6:44 PM
Bravo doog, another exceptional piece!!Bow [bow]

Eric

 

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, November 10, 2007 4:51 PM

Well thanks so much all you guys--I'm glad you all have found favor with it! Whistling [:-^]PHEW! Laugh [(-D]

If you all are interested, I was gonna do another painting tutorial about the silly putty method, and some more weathering info, mainly just another reiteration of the dots used on this build. Let me know if there's enough interest--I don't want to  "post-spam" with Hetzers already! Some of you have PM'd me for info, so I figure I'll just condense my answers into one post?

It's a honor to hear that some of you have been inspired by my work on these little panzerjaegers that, to tell you the truth, I always thought were the ugliest tanks! Yuck [yuck] It's nice to see that I can inspire you with a tank which I first built only to add it to my collection because it was a conspicuous absence! 

Thanks again to all! Big Smile [:D]

 

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Posted by steelrudi on Saturday, November 10, 2007 4:09 PM
WOW!!! Fantastic!!! Another great build from the master!!!!  Good job Karl!!!
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Posted by yeti0010 on Saturday, November 10, 2007 3:22 PM
very nice job, I love the weathering, it is just right.  Puts the Hetzer on my list to buld.
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Posted by T-rex on Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:57 AM
Very nice tank, I like the weathering on the wheels and back of the tank, lately i've been interasted at tamiya new hezther but now is not the time to get another tank.

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Posted by biffa on Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:51 AM
Looks great Karl i love the hard weathered finish as far as details go the only thing i added to mine was some mesh for the screen and the way you have painted and weathered this one brings out the kit details just right im sure they are going to be delighted with this, great job.
Ron g.
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Posted by DHM on Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:38 AM

 the doog wrote:
Well, I hope y'all find favor with it! It's STRICTLY "OOB", so don't be too hard on me! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Enjoy! 

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!  I almost started shooting at my computer screen when I saw that!  It looks incredible!Bow [bow]Make a Toast [#toast]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Thomas on Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:23 AM

Hello the doog

Hey, this is a beauty...     I am trying to repaint that Hetzer I build 30+ years ago to see I can get at least close to your great work. In the last days your Hetzer models has been an inspiration.

Greetings

Thomas

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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:58 AM
And you say I'M a fast builder?  when did you start painting his thing?  half a week ago? Big Smile [:D]  To tell you the truth, in this set of pictures I really like the darker colors now.  Man, that must be painful having to seperate the twins, but I'm sure those guys at Helo will give it a nice loving home.
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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:36 AM

doog, congratulations on a great commission build!  I'm sure they will be totally stoked with their new Hetzer!!   I LUV IT! Gotta build be one of these, but no way will it be anywhere near as good as yours!Bow [bow]  Keep em coming dude! 

Ernest

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*FINISHED PICS* Helo Hetzer
Posted by the doog on Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:28 AM

Well, it's a done deal! The Helo Miniatures Hetzer is "finito"!

I added chipping and some more pin washes, did the muffler, added the tools, and detail painted it....I still have to add the antenma, but that will be simply shipped with the model to be glued on when unpacked, as it will get broken off anyway. I'm happy with the way it turned out; I would liked to have done some more detailing on it, but time was of the essence, and I wanted to make sure I got it done before leaving for Germany on the 20th of November for 10 days--just in time to miss Thanksgiving! Sigh [sigh]Banged Head [banghead]Boohoo [BH]

Anders from Helo Miniatures has said that he will be producing a second set of tank crewmen for the Hetzer--one pair is standing around, perfect for a peaceful dio/viginette, the other set will be riding in the hatches; the one guy will be sitting facing-forward on the rear, holding on to the opened engine hatch... I have already seen the first set, and they're really nice!

Well, I hope y'all find favor with it! It's STRICTLY "OOB", so don't be too hard on me! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Enjoy! 

 

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