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Almost One of a Kind 1/32 Pershing 1A Tractor & Launcher

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Almost One of a Kind 1/32 Pershing 1A Tractor & Launcher
Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:24 PM

Well, I don't like doing things part way but this was going WAY. Saw this kit on ebay and had to have itDinner [dinner]. At least I know after I clear the bench of what I am working on now, I know what is next.

This is a 1/32 scale Pershing 1A Tractor and Launcher. The kit was actually made by Martin Marietta in their prototype and tooling department where the missile was built. I presume it was a limited production run but I will have to try and do some research with Martin Marietta/Lockheed to find out. The kit is marked EPL-1 and the kit is dated November 1973

The kit is plastic molded, the former owner started the kit, (was not a modeler so we will need a little work there) but only assembled the frame of the tractor. Once we get to working on this I'll post WIP reports.

Here is the box

Here are the directions for the tractor on the left and EL (erector launcher on the right) The missile assembly is added at the bottom of the tractor.

Here is the kit in the box. The styrene parts seem good and have a fair amount of detail. The tires will have to be replaced, they are the rubber tires but have Matin Marietta logo on them. There are also clear for the glass on the tractor, decals for the missile and tractor and a stainless etched plate for a display stand.

Here to give you an idea of size, I hand fit the missile parts. The missile is about 12 1/2 inches long and about an inch in diameter. Also notice the display plate.

This is just a photosheet showing the finished model. The finished model will be about 18 inches long if the tractor is connected.

This will be fun as this is an artillery weapon of my time. It will also be fun working on a rare kit like this. This will also set up some research for me on the Pershing prior to starting.

I would love to find out if the molds still exist. It would be great if someone could re-make this kit.

I would hope by early next year to have my bench clear, research done and be able to start on this. I was hoping to do a couple of simple builds and then work on somthing with a little more beef but I can't pass this up.

Rounds Complete!!

 

 

 

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by ps1scw on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:55 PM

This is cool, I really like it.  I'm also digging the uniforms on the box, makes me think of when I first joined the Seabee's. 

 Awhile back I was wondering if anyone would do a new V2 w/vehicles.

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Posted by treadwell on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:31 PM
looks very cool and unusual,redleg!Cool [8D]Smile [:)]-- keep us posted on this one!!---treadCool [8D]

   

 

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Posted by minimortar on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:40 PM
Please keep us posted on the progress of this build Redleg12. You've got quite a collector's kit there IMO. Brings back some fond memories and I would love to see this completed!

Thanks,
Kevin Keefe

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 7:51 PM

Cool.  That looks awesome.  A great find.  I won't even ask how much it went for though.Taped Shut [XX]

Keep us posted.  I can't wait to see it finished.

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Posted by squeakie on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:19 PM

what you have may well have been one of those freebee gifts that defense contractors often hand out to tours and to employees. I was involved with the M-1 tank project from the prototype all the way thru the M1-a2 and the e2 mods. I have all kinda key chains and coasters laying around. Used to have a neat O.D. green tee shirt with the M-1 pic on it. Of all the doodads I recieved the keychains they handed out during an open house are the most sought after (why I don't know as they are rather cheap looking).

gary

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:46 PM
 HeavyArty wrote:

Cool.  That looks awesome.  A great find.  I won't even ask how much it went for though.Taped Shut [XX]

Keep us posted.  I can't wait to see it finished.

Here is the deal...As I have said in some other thread a major portion of my past modeling was scale model rockets. I have been carting around for ~30 years about 6 moving boxes full of kits and parts. I have no desire to go back to that so I have been selling them on ebay, creating a money stash for items like this (also collecting all the old Revell/Monogram/Lindberg missile kits). With that in mind, this kit really cost me nothing. But for those who are wondering, the winning bid was $731. If it was out of pocket I would have thought about it, but its my trade of an old hobby for my current.

It's expensive, but I did not see this opportunity coming again. When you consider a Revell HM version of Atomic Annie will go for $200 - $350 and that was a mass produced kit, this was a bargan.

I just hope I am good enough to do it justice.

Once we start I promise plenty of WIP.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:51 PM

Wow, that is high.  But hey, if you can afford it and it makes you happy, more power to ya.Cool [8D]

Now get to building it.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

Check out my Gallery: http://smg.photobuck...v231/HeavyArty/?

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:11 PM
 HeavyArty wrote:

Wow, that is high.  But hey, if you can afford it and it makes you happy, more power to ya.Cool [8D]

Now get to building it.

Hey, as my wife tells me my hobby is costing almost nothing even for expensive toys like this and the attic gets a little cleaner...it's a win win Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

But yes, I count my blessings every day and it does make me happyParty [party]

Thanks for the comments. Now if I can just finish what I am working on so I can get to itBanged Head [banghead]

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by dante on Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:53 PM
 redleg12 wrote:

But for those who are wondering, the winning bid was $731.

Wow expensive!! I don't think I would build it; I'm not good enough. Keep us informed.

Dan

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Posted by steelrudi on Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:53 PM
WOW,WOW,WOW!!!!!!!  What a find.  By the way I have been looking for the old Renwal kits, and I can find them!  The grail quest continues!  I am really looking forward to seeing this build.
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Posted by Rick Martin on Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:20 AM
Redleg, I worked for a large hobby shop in Orlando, FL from 1970-77. Martin/Marrieta called us one day and wanted to send someone to talk about model cement and model paints which were readily available at that time. I asked what they were working on and couldn't get a positive answer. Kinda hard to make paint recommendations if ya don't know what the project is. I finally talked to some one and found out it was a Pershing missile which was to be made available to employees only. I did get to see a complete kit in a plain box with no instructions or decals. At that time Renwal was still in business and since MM chose 1/32 scale for their Pershing the quality and style of molding and the engineering all looked like Renwal had done the molds for the kit. Also heard a rumor that the molds may have been destroyed after the production run but don't know if that's true or not. Anyway, I tried real hard to get a kit (worked the "compensation for tech. advice angle) but no luck. Martin/Marietta almost treated the model project as though it were "Top Secret"---Rick Martin
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Posted by the doog on Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:31 PM

Wow, man--WICKED-COOL KIT!!!

I think I speak for all of us when I say "We're jealous!" Laugh [(-D]

I'll be watching this one...with binoculars! Tongue [:P]

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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, December 14, 2007 12:07 AM

 Rick Martin wrote:
Redleg, I worked for a large hobby shop in Orlando, FL from 1970-77. Martin/Marrieta called us one day and wanted to send someone to talk about model cement and model paints which were readily available at that time. I asked what they were working on and couldn't get a positive answer. Kinda hard to make paint recommendations if ya don't know what the project is. I finally talked to some one and found out it was a Pershing missile which was to be made available to employees only. I did get to see a complete kit in a plain box with no instructions or decals. At that time Renwal was still in business and since MM chose 1/32 scale for their Pershing the quality and style of molding and the engineering all looked like Renwal had done the molds for the kit. Also heard a rumor that the molds may have been destroyed after the production run but don't know if that's true or not. Anyway, I tried real hard to get a kit (worked the "compensation for tech. advice angle) but no luck. Martin/Marietta almost treated the model project as though it were "Top Secret"---Rick Martin

Thanks for the info. Because of what I do I have some contacts within Lockheed. Trying to find out do any kits still exist and do the molds exist. Obviously if the answer is yes to any of those this forum will be the first to know.

Thanks again for the info.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, December 14, 2007 12:13 AM
 the doog wrote:

Wow, man--WICKED-COOL KIT!!!

I think I speak for all of us when I say "We're jealous!" Laugh [(-D]

I'll be watching this one...with binoculars! Tongue [:P]

Finding and getting this kit is just proof that luck beats skill any day. Hope to begin work on it after the new year. Whistling [:-^]

Trying to gather information on the Pershing now. That in itself is a daunting task as the Pershing was classified. Banged Head [banghead]  Not many good close up photos. Trying to work with a group of Pershing vets.

It will be interesting beyound just the kit. Propeller [8-]

Thanks

Rounds Complete!!

 

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by crockett on Friday, December 14, 2007 6:22 AM

Congratulations on landing a rare kit. "an artillery weapon of my time"?, I thought these were tactical nukes?. Well, I don't know beans about the Pershing missile, but I do know they threw a lot of GI's out of the units in Germany for seemingly minor infractions. Several of these "rejects" landed in our battalion. No hokey pokey arond the nukes I guess.

Does anyone know who was contracted for the tractor?

Good luck Redleg, looks like a great project and one that in truky unique.

 

regards,

Steve

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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, December 14, 2007 4:26 PM
 crockett wrote:

Congratulations on landing a rare kit. "an artillery weapon of my time"?, I thought these were tactical nukes?. Well, I don't know beans about the Pershing missile, but I do know they threw a lot of GI's out of the units in Germany for seemingly minor infractions. Several of these "rejects" landed in our battalion. No hokey pokey arond the nukes I guess.

Does anyone know who was contracted for the tractor?

Good luck Redleg, looks like a great project and one that in truky unique.

 

regards,

Steve

Well yes they were tactical nukes but they were part of the Army Field Artillery. Pershing training was done at Ft Sill so yes they are part of my time!!!

The M757 tractor and those series of vehicles were built by Ford. They did not build many of them and they were primarily used for the Pershing missile and missile support systems.

The M757 series were used with the Pershing 1A, The original Pershing used the M747 vehicles which were modified M113 vehicles. There were 4 variants of that for the launcher, warhead, launcher control and cargo. The Pershing 2 used the same M757A1 erector launcher trailer but were pulled by M983 HEMTT for the US units and the Germans used a MAN tractor.

Rounds Complete!! 

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by moose421 on Friday, December 14, 2007 7:59 PM
I'm not going to say anything about the price.  I dumped over $5000 in a race only to have a weld fail on a brake  mount.  It failed when I was going about 90 mph and into a corner.  End result my car went staight into the wall and destroyed the car.  But, putting another one together.    Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic]Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, December 14, 2007 9:00 PM

 moose421 wrote:
I'm not going to say anything about the price.  I dumped over $5000 in a race only to have a weld fail on a brake  mount.  It failed when I was going about 90 mph and into a corner.  End result my car went staight into the wall and destroyed the car.  But, putting another one together.    Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic]Big Smile [:D]

But did you enjoy building it??? Are you enjoying putting another togeather??? If the answer to those are yes and the use of the money did not affect the quality of you or your families life, then price does not matter!! Pirate [oX)]

Life is too short not to be happy and have fun!

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by moose421 on Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:00 PM

yep new car is being built with the wifes go ahead.  She wants the car more than I do, and is helping pay for the new frame. It makes both of us very happy!

Thanks for the complement

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Posted by Phantom on Friday, April 26, 2013 10:42 PM

Did another example of this kit ever appear on the forum?  I only see this one.  I have been trying to find out more about my kit for many years with no luck until this series of posts.  My parents got mine from a Martin Marietta executive who was our neighbor when I lived near Orlando in the 1970s.  He would not say anything about it, but it was the highlight of my Christmas that year.  Still, I never could bring myself to build it; I always thought my skills would increase before I would tackle what I knew was a rare kit.  Now my interests have gone in other directions and I am trying to learn about just what  have in the basement.  Can anyone share any information about these kits?

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Posted by JeepGirl on Wednesday, August 01, 2018 12:20 PM

redleg12

Well, I don't like doing things part way but this was going WAY. Saw this kit on ebay and had to have it . At least I know after I clear the bench of what I am working on now, I know what is next.

This is a 1/32 scale Pershing 1A Tractor and Launcher. The kit was actually made by Martin Marietta in their prototype and tooling department where the missile was built. I presume it was a limited production run but I will have to try and do some research with Martin Marietta/Lockheed to find out. The kit is marked EPL-1 and the kit is dated November 1973

The kit is plastic molded, the former owner started the kit, (was not a modeler so we will need a little work there) but only assembled the frame of the tractor. Once we get to working on this I'll post WIP reports.

Here is the box

Here are the directions for the tractor on the left and EL (erector launcher on the right) The missile assembly is added at the bottom of the tractor.

Here is the kit in the box. The styrene parts seem good and have a fair amount of detail. The tires will have to be replaced, they are the rubber tires but have Matin Marietta logo on them. There are also clear for the glass on the tractor, decals for the missile and tractor and a stainless etched plate for a display stand.

Here to give you an idea of size, I hand fit the missile parts. The missile is about 12 1/2 inches long and about an inch in diameter. Also notice the display plate.

This is just a photosheet showing the finished model. The finished model will be about 18 inches long if the tractor is connected.

This will be fun as this is an artillery weapon of my time. It will also be fun working on a rare kit like this. This will also set up some research for me on the Pershing prior to starting.

I would love to find out if the molds still exist. It would be great if someone could re-make this kit.

I would hope by early next year to have my bench clear, research done and be able to start on this. I was hoping to do a couple of simple builds and then work on somthing with a little more beef but I can't pass this up.

Rounds Complete!!

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, August 20, 2018 8:38 AM

Jeep Girl, not sure what you are asking for?? How can I help.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by LonCray on Monday, August 20, 2018 10:25 AM

Holy twice-resurrected zombie thread Batman!  

Any missile kit without a scale tac nuc warhead isn't really 'fully working'.  

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Posted by Davja on Tuesday, September 04, 2018 11:02 PM

Well, since it's already been resurrected, did you ever get this done Redleg? 

 

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