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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, June 1, 2009 6:21 AM

Without the use of an airbrush,how should I go about getting a nice,white finish on an auto?I'm an armor guy building a Ghostbusters Ecto 1 for a group build.

Thanks

 Ed

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Posted by Brizio on Monday, June 1, 2009 7:22 AM
Paint it white gloss, clear and polish it... :)
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Posted by philo426 on Monday, June 1, 2009 10:24 AM
Another option is to primer it and then paint it flat white.If you thin the paint a little and use a good quality brush you can get a even finish.Then Future it to bring up the gloss.I do recommend using an airbrush!makes things much easier!Here is my airbrushed '57 
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Posted by tiki kat on Monday, June 1, 2009 10:54 AM
Tamiya spray lacquers are my simple answer.  They go on smoothly and can be polished to a high gloss.  Be forewarned, they stink, so proper ventilation is a must.
"Always tell the truth, there's less to remember" Indian Larry
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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, June 1, 2009 1:05 PM
 tiki kat wrote:
Tamiya spray lacquers are my simple answer.  They go on smoothly and can be polished to a high gloss.  Be forewarned, they stink, so proper ventilation is a must.
I like Tamiya sprays as well.Would I use a base coat?What would I polish it with?

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Posted by tiki kat on Monday, June 1, 2009 10:43 PM
Tamiya white primer and Tamiya compounds.  I love the primer, even if it is expensive (what does a bad paint job cost???) and their polishing compounds work like magic.  I pretty much use them exclusively anymore.
"Always tell the truth, there's less to remember" Indian Larry
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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 9:55 AM
Cool.I had no idea anybody made anything to polish models.Like I mentioned,I'm an armor guy and that means dirty and beat up is the norm.Thanks for the info.

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:11 AM

TD,

Like the gentleman said above Tamiya White (don't get the Racing White, it's more of a creme color) over Tamiya fine white primer.  If you can't get the rubbing compounds, Detail Master and LMG make sandpaper kits specifically for this purpose.  The grits range from 1800-12000.  Once you've painted the body, let it sit for at least a week before attempting to rub it out.  This gives the lacquer time to fully cure and harden.  If you decide to use an enamel, give it at least two weeks. Go slow and watch out for high points as the paint will be thinnest there and easiest to rub through.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by TD4438 on Wednesday, June 3, 2009 8:13 AM
I picked up Tamiya gloss white and Tamiya primer.The primer is grey I beleive.This shouldn't prove to be too much of a problem,should it?

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Posted by tiki kat on Thursday, June 4, 2009 8:26 AM

The grey primer is what I use over bodywork (fillers, etc), but it sands very smoothly and the white should cover just fine.  With the Tamiya sprays, I use a method of several mist coats, yes, they will look kind of rough at first, with 15-20 minutes between coats.  Then follow up with a couple wet coats to smooth things out and bring up the gloss (remember to wait between coats).  I'll polish after about a week of drying time, you can lightly wetsand any orange peel or dust from the paint (600 to 1000 grit), then use the polishing compound of your choice to bring back the gloss.  I like to use a piece of flannel as an application, rubbing in small circles, then wiping off the residue.  Be careful on the edges, so you don't cut thru the paint and be sure you don't use any polish with wax in it until you're sure you don't have to paint anymore.

Hope this helps some, you can e-mail me if you have further need.  Peace!

"Always tell the truth, there's less to remember" Indian Larry
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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, June 5, 2009 1:10 AM

Agree 100% with the methods prescribed by tiki kat. Just adding my 2c.

Grey primer is great to spot imperfections. Dunno how they did it, but it shows up an imperfection like crazy - you can then sort it out and re-prime. I would advise using white primer over that, under your laquer spray. Most TS's are transluscent. Maybe the white will be okay. But keep it in mind for future ones, esp colours. You get a vastly different colour - they're designed to go over white. (I often change them purpousefully by putting a layer of eg. silver on over the base.) Some guys go as far to ensure they get white base that they go up to white primer, then TS26, then their colour. And add clear afterwards for shine, plus it gives you a barrier for polishing/sanding. Sand lightly between every layer to get a glass-like finish, if you're so inclined.

Sanding - agreed on the Tamiya compounds. Just watch out for the white residue, esp in panel lines! Get that off the kit before you add clear/another layer. Micro mesh system works great! Be carefull not to go through your paint layer, esp on "ridges" and edges. Also - some normal liquid car polish can be used in the end to polish it nice 'n shiny.

Last note - beware of finger oils... Also, before you start, clean off the releasing agents, esp if it's a multimedia kit!

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Posted by TD4438 on Friday, June 5, 2009 7:53 AM
This is the problem with autos.Can't screw something up then write it off as battle damage or cover it with mud to hide it.

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Posted by tiki kat on Friday, June 5, 2009 7:58 AM
Yep!  That's why I tried Armor Rehab for a change of pace.Whistling [:-^]
"Always tell the truth, there's less to remember" Indian Larry
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Posted by bilbirk on Friday, June 5, 2009 9:43 AM
 TD4438 wrote:

Without the use of an airbrush,how should I go about getting a nice,white finish on an auto?I'm an armor guy building a Ghostbusters Ecto 1 for a group build.

Thanks

 Ed

How do you paint your armor then?
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Posted by TD4438 on Friday, June 5, 2009 5:44 PM
Mostly with a good old fashioned bristlebrush.With armor,you want the exact opposite of a flawless,showroom paint job.

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Posted by tiki kat on Friday, June 5, 2009 6:40 PM
You must really have the touch, cuz I can barely paint a house with a brush!
"Always tell the truth, there's less to remember" Indian Larry
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Posted by TD4438 on Saturday, June 6, 2009 5:28 PM
It can be a pain.Several thin coats can take some time.When possible,I'll use a rattle can for the base color.

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