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First Model in 10+ Yrs.
Posted by DuHast on Monday, August 17, 2009 10:33 PM
Hello Everyone, my name is Tim and I've been a big fan of all types of models my whole life. I have a decent collection of diecast AutoArt Racing Division models and I used to build the plastic models with my Dad. I haven't built a model in over 10 years so I've decided to get back into it after talking for weeks about it with a co-worker of mine JMABX (predominantly in the aircraft section).

The model I've decided to undertake is a pretty heavily custom model. I'm not sure how many of you on here will be familiar with the video games Twisted Metal. The game was basically a big demolition derby but with projectiles as well (missiles, napalm etc). One of my favorite characters from that game series was Darkside. Darkside is a tractor trailer cab with machine guns and other armaments.

The particular iteration of Darkside I'm going to attempt to replicate is from Twisted Metal Black, which is a Semi-Cab with a police car chained to the front to ram people with.

Here's a picture of the Darkside I'm speaking of.


i bought a Revell Peterbuilt 359 Conventional and have just started putting some things together and doing some painting... Enough talk, on to the pics. I'm only 3 days into it so far.

Enjoy!
Thanks,
Tim

Kit



Day 1 - Only painted 2 Air Tanks and Glued The Fuel Tanks


Day 2 - Lots of Gluing and Painting. Suspension, Axles, Engine Parts




Intake Manifold - Came Out Horrible!! :(



Day 3 - More Painting, Chassis Assembly w/ Wheels



Wish I Could Get The Seams Out Of These Tanks!




Generator

Oil Filter, Housing and Pump


Pump Assembly and Timing Cover

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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:23 AM

Tim-Welcome to the forums.  Nice detail work.  Looking forward to more progress pics.

Only area that I can offer a suggestion on is the seam on the air tanks.  Is there a burr on the mounting surfaces?  Or maybe the parts were labeled incorrectly and therefore mismatched upon assembly?  If not, then maybe using strip stryene and or filler & sanding would fix the problem.  

A suggestion that is really more a matter of opinion would be to consider using an oil wash (or acrylic wash, depending on the base surface) to bring out the details on the engine & drivetrain parts.

Bob

 

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:33 AM
This one aughtta be good!I'll be watching it out for a finished product!

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Posted by Brizio on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:27 PM
Welcome!!! Looking forward to see more of your work!
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Posted by jmabx on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:36 PM

Hey Tim... looking good! Thumbs Up [tup] Glad ya signed up!

As you probably know, I don't get to this end of the forums too often. Eventually I will be sliding on over here for the expertise of this fine group when I start building a 1/24 Fujimi Datsun SR311 to replicate the race car that my father-in-law drove. But that's another story!

You're in the right hands in these forums... everyone is very helpful!

As Bob mentioned, a wash will do that thing some good. The great thing about this project is that you can't screw it up. In my opinion, a very heavy wash of black followed up by another of, say, raw sienna will make it look grimy, dirty and nasty and that's the look you want. (I think Smile [:)])

I anyone has more input... let it fly! This kid is very talented and catches on very quickly!

Don't be afraid to ask questions here or at the "office". (You know I'll drop anything for a modelling related question!)

P.S. - I'll be keeping an eye on you! Shock [:O] Evil [}:)] Big Smile [:D] CONTACT!

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by aussiemuscle308 on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:21 PM

 bobbaily wrote:
Tim-Welcome to the forums.  Nice detail work.  ...A suggestion that is really more a matter of opinion would be to consider using an oil wash (or acrylic wash, depending on the base surface) to bring out the details on the engine & drivetrain parts.

 yes, great detail. and you'll want to give it a 'wash' of thin black paint as bob suggested to give it that worn/worked look. i've played the original 'twisted metal' way back on playstation 1.

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Posted by DuHast on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:41 PM
Bob - I did what you suggested with a little input from Jeremy JMABX whom I work with... we went over some stuff together today while we should have been working I'm sure.

Jeremy - As always thanks for your help and patience with my seemingly neverending questions.

I washed the engine and all the parts as well as the chrome wheels (per the picture). I used some Flat Black, Rust and a slight bit of silver all thinned out and mixed together to get a good "grimy" look to some of the parts.

Let me know what you think and I must say, for my first time ever trying to wash something and give it an old and dirty look I was quite impressed with how it came out.

Some angles of it however look TOO dirty... but then again, when you're driving a Semi-Cab with machine guns bolted to the hood, iron beams on the sides, a police car strapped to the hood; it may not matter how dirty your engine is!

On To The Pics!!!

Enjoy! - CONTACT!!

Engine Parts Washed and Assembled





Wheels






Engine in Chassis






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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:01 AM

Tim-the engine looks fantastic with the wash.  Makes a world of difference.  My only thought (and please, this is just my opinion) is that the wheels are a bit 'too heavy' on the wash.  Again, this is only my opinion and I have a tendency to build my auto projects on the 'clean' side.  I really need to 'dirty' one up sometime.  Hmmmm...maybe a "Dirty & rusted out GB" sometime in future?

It's great that you have co-workers that are involved in your hobby.  Are you guys hiring..Whistling [:-^]

Bob

 

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Posted by DuHast on Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:45 PM
Worked on Darkside some more yesterday with the help of my man Jeremy. He showed me how to dry brush some stuff to make subtle differences in elevation on some pieces stand out more and we started on the scratch building of the massive side beams on the Darkside Truck. I scratch built a mock up of one of the gatling guns to be on either side of the cab as well. Onto the pics!!

Enjoy!!

Just as a reminder, here is the Darkside reference pic.


Attempt at the same perspective


Side Rail Shots





Gatling Gun Mock-up (Cut Q-Tip Stems and Metal Duct Repair Tape)


It's Coming Along!! I'm happy with it so far!
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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:43 PM
And you should be happy with it.  You're doing a great job with it.  I'm looking forward to seeing more progress pics.  And I love the gatling guns....oh to have one of those on my Focus the next time some yo-yo runs a red light and cuts in front of me....Evil [}:)]

Bob

 

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Posted by jmabx on Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:39 PM

 bobbaily wrote:
And I love the gatling guns....oh to have one of those on my Focus the next time some yo-yo runs a red light and cuts in front of me....Evil [}:)]

HAHA! That's great! Laugh [(-D] I was going to put one on the roof of my Volkswagen but it just wouldn't fit!

I finally got to see this thing in person and it is HUGE. I build 1/48 aircraft and Tim and I measured the truck up against an SM-79 I'm building and they were just about the same length. Shock [:O] This thing is gonna be sick!

Helping Tim with this is alot of fun. To me, this would be a very imposing project for a first time build but Tim dives right in. The ideas he has for this truck are amazing!

Great work! Can't wait to see some more! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

P.S. - All that Dr Pepper in the background is making me thirsty.

 

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by DuHast on Monday, August 24, 2009 3:33 PM
Jeremy, thanks for the kind words as always. I had a blast tackling this mammoth with you the other day. Buster is adorable by the way haha. I love shepherds. We got to get together again for another "twisted" Darkside night with some Dr. P.

I like building this type of model where exact detail and accuracy aren't exactly 100% important.. I like having my own input on the way it will turn out.

I would like to do a tank next but I'm already worried that I'll want to put my own spin on it somehow and******off the die hard technical sticklers...

We'll have to see I guess.
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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:50 PM

Totally awesome! I actually had a dream to do a model like this--armor, guns, "road warrior-type" thing.....then I discovered tanks....

It'll be fun to live vicariously through your efforts here! It;s looking superb so far!

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Posted by DuHast on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:41 PM
Thanks again for all the kind words. I am having a blast doing this type of model. It's so much more fun developing your own parts / armaments for a model that really shouldn't have it. I'm trying to get a nice looking ammo strip together for the gatling guns. I've tried to paint a zip tie, then melt the edge of a ziptie to try and form the square edge to a point like a bullet, and then tried to melt mold a section of the "pointed" ziptie around a bend as if it was coming from the engine bay and wraps to the gun basket. If anyone else has any ideas or info on how to make a nice ammo strip please post the ideas here!!

Here's the pics from what I've done with the ZipTies.

P.S. - I know they would have to be seriously cleaned up (trim stragglers and whatnot...this is just a test)

Bent Section w/ Melted Edge


Straight Section w/ Melted Edge


Straight Section w/o Melted Edge


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Posted by jmabx on Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:09 PM
Hope you can figure that one out, Tim. Confused [%-)]

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:34 PM

Tim- first model in 10 years?! WOW!! You're doing a great job so far, excellent finishing work with the washes, nice, clean paint job, great construction- I can't wait to see this one finished, should be very interesting with the police car chained up front.

I think the darker wash on the rims fits the grunge look of this Mad-Max type vehicle. Good luck on the ammo belts!

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Yet another update.
Posted by DuHast on Friday, August 28, 2009 6:34 PM
Yet another ammo idea popped into my head today about what to do for the ammo for the gatling guns...

I'll upload 2 pics... can anyone guess what they are?

Also, scored some rusty brake lines from a truck at work to possibly use as the exhausts on the kit. May not look right though... I want input!!!

Ammo Idea.. What Do You Think They Are?



Rusted Brake Lines for Exhaust? Input Please!!

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, August 28, 2009 6:54 PM

 DuHast wrote:

What the... ???

I have no idea what that is! Dunce [D)] Probably something pretty common, huh? It looks like it will work nice though. Don't keep us in suspense... what is it? Huh, huh, huh?

I like the idea of the exhaust having that nasty, rusty, pitted look. I think the brake lines as they are would be a little too much though. I, personally, would sand them down quite a bit to make the "pitted" look less pronounced. Then make them look rusty with paint. That might defeat the purpose of using them in the first place but, the real metal will look better than plastic when it comes to that effect. Of course, they might look just right after sanding. They will have some clean bare metal spots and some rusty spots... hmmm... yes, I'm a genius. Big Smile [:D] Also, clean those puppies well with some brake cleaner because the residual brake fluid will become a problem. Clean... thoroughly! Wink [;)]

That's how I feel about that! Big Smile [:D] Hopefully someone else has some good advise.

Now... what the heck are those things?

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by DuHast on Friday, August 28, 2009 7:23 PM
Very common indeed my man. I want to see if anyone else has an idea of what the "ammo" is. Now all I have to figure out is how to go about making the band that the ammo is linked with.

I like the idea of sanding the lines down a bit. May come out pretty nicely. I'll bring them to work tomorrow to clean off all the brake fluid that may be hiding in there first though, good idea on the thorough cleaning...brake fluid is ridiculous.


EDIT: Figured out a good sample of the ammo belt. Just need to fine tune it a bit and it may work nicely.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, August 28, 2009 10:37 PM

Ammo belt looks great on the "links"... but... is that... pencil lead? hmmm

Definitely looks nasty- pretty good sized round!

Good luck cleaning those break lines!

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by DuHast on Friday, August 28, 2009 11:00 PM
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!! They are indeed pencil leads. I have a good sharpener, so I twist the pencil 10 times, peel back the wood surround, score and snap the leads. I just have to figure out how to adhere them to the "link" better... I used ambroid on part of it and testors model cement on the other. Both fix them together but I need to paint the shells too... hmm how to continue?
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Posted by jmabx on Friday, August 28, 2009 11:31 PM

Tim - Try some 2-part epoxy or super glue to hold the shells on. Just a little dab on the end of a toothpick, touch it to the "link"(?) and place the shell on... one at a time. I think it will hold them good and allow you to flex it a little once you install it. Might be tedious but making those bullets looks that way too. Thumbs Up [tup]

Pencil?! Who'da thunk?!

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by Back to the bench on Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:42 PM
Very clever idea on the ammo. Looks like your having a blast Big Smile [:D] Welcome back to the hobby and thanks for sharing your work.

Gil

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:32 PM
You MUST have a good sharpener- and I agree on the superglue, might be the only way to go...

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by DuHast on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 10:03 PM
Here's another update for you all.

Tonight I worked on painting some interior pieces, made the driver side rails, made the new gatling guns, and sprayed the body and interior shell (no pics of body and interior shells yet.)

Starting to all come together!! Enjoy!!

Once Again, the Basis For Inspiration


Steering Wheel and Column. Painted like the steering wheel from Darkside in Twisted Metal 1 (1996)



Shifter


Both Sides Side Rails




Exhaust Stacks (Tips Sourced From Rotten Brake Lines From Work: Sanded, Tip Singe and Cleaned)
Also Shown With A Chrome One to Show Weathering (Same Technique as Wheels - Pg. 1)







Fan and Radiator



And Last But Not Least, The Beast of a Gun






Now Just got to figure out how to fab up a gatling gun base box to insert the barrels into, as seen on the side of the cab in the original darkside pic.
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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 10:54 PM
Wow! Great gun, those brass tubes look much nicer- also like the stacks

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by jmabx on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 2:56 PM

The brake line looks perfect as an exhaust stack! Thumbs Up [tup]

That gun is gonna be nasty!

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by hooknladderno1 on Thursday, September 3, 2009 8:39 AM

Tim,

Welcome back to modeling!  I just saw this thread, so excuse me for being a little late to the party(LOL).  Fine work!  You are doing a great job.  I really like your use of different techniques and weathering.  A suggestion for future builds regarding the fuel tanks, is to use a product called a "Flexifile".  It is a "U" shaped frame which holds a band of sanding material.  This is great for sanding rounded surfaces like fuel tanks, exhaust pipes, etc. as it follows the curve, and does not make a FLAT edge.  I look forward to your next update.

 

 

David

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Posted by DuHast on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 11:26 PM
Sizable Update!

Got a good amount of work done. Went to Jeremy's place the other day and completed the dashboard which was a total bee-yotch. He had a great idea for doing the gauges and dials as I figured he would have. We also painted the interior and I tore up the seats a bit by carving a gouge in the seats and glued in some seatfoam.

Today, I put the interior part into the cab itself, I put some screening over the windows on the side to resemble chain link fencing and tried to rust it up a bit.

Onto the pics. Enjoy!

Dash, Seats, Interior







Cab Painted and Together w/ Fencing









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Posted by jmabx on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:12 AM
Awesome! Thumbs Up [tup]

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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