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What is good to use for a base coat for the body of a car?

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  • Member since
    November 2005
What is good to use for a base coat for the body of a car?
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:44 PM
In the past I've always just washed the body with soap and water, then painted it whatever colour I wanted. I should really do it the proper way.

What product(s) would you recommend to do a base coat with? Something glossy I assume as cars always have a high gloss finish. I do have a spray can of clear gloss Tamiya that I used to finish a kit I'm just about done with. Can that be used as a base coat?

I'm just thinking of my next kit to do, so i want to be prepared to do it right with the help of you folks!

Thanks.

I did search, but found most of the results were for armor. Which helps with my other current project.
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  • From: Drummondville, Quebec, Canada
Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:59 PM

What you need is a "primer".  A flat coat to help other paint to stick to it.  Not a gloss coat, the gloss coat will come last to give the glossy look of a new car, you could use Future.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:39 PM
 Yann Solo wrote:

What you need is a "primer".  A flat coat to help other paint to stick to it.  Not a gloss coat, the gloss coat will come last to give the glossy look of a new car, you could use Future.



Ok, gotcha. I have a can of Floquil flat. I could use that?
  • Member since
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  • From: White Mountains, NH
Posted by jhande on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:40 PM
I can walk you through with my enamel paint process, I never used acrylics.

  • Wash kit with mild dish detergent, rinse well and dry.
  • Wet sand body with #320 - #600 grit, rinse well.
  • Do any necessary body work, i.e. - spot putty.
  • Wet sand body with #400 - #800 grit, rinse well.
  • Wipe down with Isopropyl Alcohol, let dry.
  • Primer with a primer paint or flat paint - color depends on final color coat *.
  • Let primer dry then wet sand with #400 - #800 grit.
  • Wipe down with Isopropyl Alcohol, let dry.
  • Spray 1st mist coat of final color, let dry.
  • Wet sand if rough finish with #400 - #800 grit.
  • Spray 2nd mist coat of final color, let dry.
  • Wet sand if rough finish with #400 - #800 grit.
  • Spray 1st wet color coat, let dry.
  • If rough finish, wet sand with #800 - #1200 grit.
  • Spray 2nd wet color coat, let dry (hopefully final coat).
  • Mask off and paint any stripes or two tone effects, etc...
  • If slightly rough or not as smooth as would like, I polish it after a month with Meguiar's Scratch X.
  • Apply decals.
  • Wax with Meguiar's Gold Class Clear Coat Paste Wax.

* NOTE: If the final color is going to be a light color, such as white, light blue, yellow, etc... I primer with flat white or "light" grey. If the final color is a translucent color, I'll primer with either gold or silver depending on how dark of a shade I want. If the final color is a dark opaque color, I'll use any primer on hand, even ruddy brown. Krylon works, Testors spray cans, I try to keep some of the cheaper Krylon primers on hand including flat white.

When I was younger I tried clear coating a few cars. I didn't really like how they came out, too glossy and the depth looked too deep even compared to the real clear coated 1:1 cars. So I found the wax that gives a really nice natural car show finish instead.  Wink [;)]

My process might seem like a lot involved. It does undertake a months worth of the body being tied up in the shop. But I start on the body first and while it's sitting and drying, I work on the rest of the kit. I take my time, wire the engine compartment, run brake & fuel lines, detail the dash, make seat belts, whatever I feel like adding to the kit. All along working on a step on the body as it dries enough to work on the next part of the process.

Actually, I start a few bodies ahead of time and then set them aside for when I'm in the mood to build. So while I spray the one I'm working on, I might spray 5 more (yes different colors LOL). Pack them back in their boxes when dry. Next time do the same thing. That way I have a bunch of bodies pre-painted waiting to be polished, decaled and waxed when I get around to building them. My winter time builds mostly. Smile [:)]

I got to finish that spray booth before next winter.  Tongue [:P]


-- Jim --
"Put the pedal down & shake the ground!"

  • Member since
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:52 PM
*gulp*

Wow, your very dedicated!

I do have some flat black Krylon in the garage I've used for car related stuff before. I guess that could work as well.
  • Member since
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  • From: White Mountains, NH
Posted by jhande on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:27 PM
Oh, I don't know if you could say I'm very dedicated.

There are times I can skip some steps because the finish came out smooth.
I apply some of what I had to do on 1:1 cars to my modeling.

Right now I've been using spray cans and spraying outside on nice days. Hopefully when I finish my spray booth and start using my recently aquired AB, the procedure will become less complicated... I hope.

The flat black Krylon should work if you are going to spray a really dark color coat.

I've actually skipped the primer step quite a few times when spraying a solid darker color (even orange). But I always wet sand and wipe with alchohol so I have a rough clean surface for the paint to adhere too.

-- Jim --
"Put the pedal down & shake the ground!"

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