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Don , You should try the "RIGID" brand vacuum that fits on ANY five gallon bucket . The power of this vac is just perfect for the use of vacu-forming parts . The thing is , how fast are you from heat gun to vac plate ? That,s the only drawback I can see , but , for those I know that use it , it is more than sufficient . tankerbuilder
SALVINE - Listen , I just saw a friend of mine do just what you want . He has a frame (simple ) for the sheet plastic .He heats it with a heat gun and then places it on a wooden box he glued to the top of a vacuum that you can get at HOME DEPOT or LOWES for under thirty bucks . This works very well ! Now , as far as your molds , you can use the original part . I used to , on my old VAC-U-FORM , use modeling clay to support it , FLORIST,S clay works better . (No oil in it that will leach out .) As far as a vacuum baseplate to put your part on ,you can buy a piece of "storm door" plexi and make a "PLATEN" (that,s the official name for the part for the size vacuum box you make. (OH , the vac sits on top of a five gallon bucket !) With your platen that you will drill lots of holes in and put spacers under you will have more than enough "draw" from the machine . Just make sure your part is clean , trimmed of any flash and waxed . The wax will prevent it from sticking to the new part . Do REMEMBER this ,you cannot do parts that tuck under or have any kind of sharp undercut . That is the major limitation of this system . The "platen" can be any from one that does indeed fit the old MATTEL machine or any other size you wish . My new platens are 6x6 , 8x8 and an extra large 16x16 inches square . You can do round if you wish ,Just make sure you drill enough holes for the vacuum to draw real good when you switch it on . You know how a vacuum sounds when you stick the hose on a machine that is turned on to a flat surface or the palm of your hand ? That sound needs to be heard , just not as intense . There you hace it , I wish you luck and happy modeling . tankerbuilder P.S. If you can carve well , make your molds from basswood , just make sure the wood is sealed and polished smooth .
Hello,
Here is a link to a vacuform machine that does not cost to much.
http://nautilusmodels.com/vac-u-box.htm
Mark
What thickness are people using for canopies? 10Mil for 1/144 canopies?
Yeah, in 1/144 you'd best break out your 15/0 brush for the canopy lines . Or just buy Minicraft kits, same difference!
Here is the source I use for pre-cut sheets and re-build parts for the Matel unit.
www.gaugepods.com/vacuform
salvine I see a couple of these on Ebay. What else is needed to make model parts? Do you need to make a frame to hold the plastic? Also, Can you use the original kit canopy as the mold? That would be nice but seems to easy.
I see a couple of these on Ebay. What else is needed to make model parts? Do you need to make a frame to hold the plastic? Also, Can you use the original kit canopy as the mold? That would be nice but seems to easy.
The Mattel machine included a little "tray" that was used to hold the patterns supplied with the machine. If you made your own patterns you needed a way to fasten them to the tray. White glue or several other methods worked- you needed something with a temporary bond.
Yes, lots of folks use kit canopies for patterns.
It is a pain to cut sheet styrene to the correct size and punch numerous holes in the blank to fit the Mattel frame. There have been several sources for pre-sized and pre-punched sheets of clear plastic, but they come and go. Don't know if any are in business currently. If there are, you should pick up a supply.
Don Stauffer in Minnesota
What did I miss?
A potato and a paper-clip...
Sure looks like the Mattel machine will work for me. I see now from a you tube video that this should work fine without wrecking the original canopy. I assume I will have to paint on the canopy framework since at 1/144th scale there will be little of this detail that will come out in the part that I make. I think I'll grab one of these. There are also companies out there that sell small sheets of plastic at a pretty reasonable cost as well as rebuild kits.
DON has given some good advice and the "MATTEL" VAC-U-FORM machine is perfect ! I recently acquired a new one. The thing is ,the machines are rare to non-existant in some areas. The one I found at a flea market last SUNDAYwas still in it,s original box , with ALL the included parts and pieces . The fact is that after My original machine was stolen in 1978 it has taken ALL these years to find another one . What shocked me was the price . I have seen them on E-BAY at times (again very rare) and for their condition and all ,the prices are too high .I only paid,"GASP " $25.00 for this one and it works fine !! You CAN build a homeade one that closely follows the MATTEL design type. It would work !! You can make a simple vacuum frame that attaches to your shop vac. The heating frame can be small enough the fit in a simple temperature controlled toaster oven . There are books on the subject so check them out . tankerbuilder
You can make one from a bread box, mesh and a few angled pieces of aluminum pretty cheaply. I describe how I built mine here.
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A design of a simple vacuforming machine is described here
Hope it helps, have a nice day
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don't even need that. Get a "project box" from radio shack, drill holes in the top about 1 cm apart, and cut a hole in the side for a shop vac. for the size you're using, that's all you need. Put the plastic in a frame of metal, and heat it over a toaster. once it sags, slap it on, and turn on the vac.
For something that small I'd try to find a Mattel machine. Maybe post a "wanted" on eBay or a place like that. The Mattel machines work great for small canopies.
I bought Doug Walsh's book to make a bigger machine, but was a bit disappointed. I wanted more draw for the bigger parts and was unable to get enough vacuum.
I'll try again if I find a better vacuum source.
What are people using out there. My usage would be mostly making correct scale 1/144th canopies for aircraft. I'm totally new to this process so any help would be great. What works for making a mold? Can I use the kit canopy to form a mold?
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