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What about the Greeks?
Posted by modeler#1 on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:22 PM

Does anybody have any good refrences of greek soldiers in WW2? I got a couple off google but nothing much. Their helmets look sort of russian I wonder if I could get russian figs and modify them? Also what kind of weapons were they using?

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:33 PM

When Italy launched their campaign against Greece, the Greek army was in a period of transition.  It had borrowed it's "look" from various countries and was even still issuing uniforms designed from WW1.  The helmet you refer to was actually the Italian type, but they had been licensed to be made in their own country (which would have a few minor differences).  Near the end they would be wearing the British helmets.

By the time they reached North Africa they would be fully geared by the British and would continue in this fashion during the fighting up the Italian boot.

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:53 AM

Alright, home now from work and able to check my book references.  Only correction to make is apparently the British helmet Mk1 was in the process of being replaced by the Italian type when war broke out.  Main type of rifle in use during 1940 was the 6.5  Mannlicher M1903/14.  Other than that Wikipedia seems to have the bases covered.

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Posted by modeler#1 on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:11 AM

What about when germany/Italy invaded? and suceeded what where they wearing then?

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:25 AM

Based on this photo of Greeks and Anzacs sharing a drink on Crete, they would still be wearing the British service dress (base on the WW1 pattern).

 

Headgear is still a mixture of whatever was available, even French helmets as illustrated by these Greek PoWs.

A few more colour plates here:

http://www.behance.net/NikosPanos/frame/2397026

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Posted by modeler#1 on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:29 PM

Thanks for the color plates those were the references I was talking about.

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:07 AM

np...

Forgot to mention possible suggestions for figures.  Most simple would be  to use Italian figures as the Greeks did capture stocks of their stuff when they chased them into Albania.

The other would entail some conversion work.  First you would need Hornet's Italian headset.  You'd have to remove the lugs on both sides - simple.  If you want to get detailed you can add some rivets along the bottom edges where the liner is attached.

Then get a figure or two from Masterclub, their WW1 Austro-Hungarian line.  The ones with the long overcoats would be perfect.  Bonus is they are equipped with a Mannlicher type rifle and the proper ammo pouches.  Also are wearing puttees and ankle boots.

You would have to remove the buttons on the coat and shift things over as they were single breasted. 

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Posted by modeler#1 on Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:02 AM

Thank you for the references and those kit makers I really appreciate it.

 

Do you know how to change masterclubs site to English ? It won't work for me.

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:00 AM

I don't think I've ever visited Masterclub's official site so had to use babelfish to translate.  Looks like they don't sell direct, but they do link a few sellers - all of which are new to me.

Two sites I do know that carry them and have purchased from in the past are HobbyEasy and Soga-Miniatures

The Chinese one has better prices.

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Posted by modeler#1 on Friday, January 27, 2012 10:33 AM

HBH12

What about these would they be wearing them

 

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Posted by stcat on Friday, January 27, 2012 11:06 AM

I did find these on WW2 greeks. 

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, January 27, 2012 5:44 PM

modeler#1

http://www.greenwichgateway.com/hornetandwolf/Hornet/HEADSETS/IMAGES/HBH12.jpg

What about these would they be wearing them

 

 

Maybe the one on the end, but this is really a late war set and I don't recall seeing foilage used in any of the Greek campaign photos.  The World War One set would be be more apt.

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Jack

 

 

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Posted by modeler#1 on Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:58 AM

This is  a dutch-romanian  set i wonder if the Greeks used these

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:50 PM

modeler#1

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This is  a dutch-romanian  set i wonder if the Greeks used these

Broken link/pic so unable to comment.

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