hey guys thanks for the kind replys, these figs really are cool i have a couple more in the stash i got them cheap on ebay, ua0124 this is a good starter fig, no complicated camo, basic colours it really is worth a shot i enjoyed it for a first one ive got to do a few more now i got the bug, ill wait for the verlinder ones trowl those bit more pricey but i do keep eye out on ebay,
abdiel i love working with oils normally i just use them for weathering my armour but the working time on the facial shades and tones being able to blend for as long as it took really helped me with this, this was my first try at using oils for figs i always just used acrylics for my 35th figs may be changing now though, thanks again all.