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  • Member since
    January 2007
Posted by the doog on Monday, September 17, 2007 4:17 AM
Has anyone found that with time, the white oils seem to reabsorb into the base coat, leaving your figure without highlights? This is what I had observed, and it caused me to switch to Windsor & Newton acrylics.
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    March 2003
  • From: Newport News VA
Posted by Buddho on Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:08 PM
I use Vallejo and Citadel acrylics and have found that by using light washes and drybrushing, my results look just like figures I have seen done with oils and the crockpot method. In my model club, there is a group of figure painters who do marvelous work with oils, but the time and different liquids needed to accomplish their work, is in my opinion, much easier done with good acrylics like Vallejo, Andrea and Citadel...and good ol' water.

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    February 2003
  • From: A little slice of heaven, Bishop, GA
Posted by Riceballtrp on Sunday, September 16, 2007 8:43 PM
I use oils quite extensively. It does dry slow, but the results are quite nice when dry. My method is to paint the subject with a base coat then the main colors using acrylics. I use oils to shade, highlight and tone the subject. Because the oils are opaque, they make very nice tones which you may not be able to achieve with acrylics or lacquers. I also use a crock pot to dry my figures (metal and resin - not styrene) on LOW heat, just be sure to keep your eye on it as drying times vary on how much oil you use. It takes practice and patience, but I like the results I can achieve with oils.

Tim

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    June 2007
Posted by squeakie on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM
 ajlafleche wrote:

I used oils for a while. Among the drying agents is Liquin which is also supposed to make the paint smoother. I didn't find that to be so. You can use regular thinner to thin the paint, and it is said by leaving a bit of paint on an index card, some of the oil will elach out, reducing drying time. The beauty of slow drying times is the ability to blend colors better for better trasnitions between highlights, base and shadow. You can certainly just do flesh in oils and use other paints for the rest of your builds. To eliminate the sheen, I'd airbrush a coat of Dullcoat as my final step. To speed drying time, some guys place their METAL, not resin or plastic, figures in a crock pot over night.

All that said, a few years ago, I retired from oils and used Andrea and Vallejo acrylics alomost exclusively on my figures.

In the book I bought they show you how to use acrylics much like oils, but with a retarder to slow down the drying time instead of speeding it up. May want to do some experimenting just to see what happens. What is the best primer to use with oils?

gary

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:22 AM

I used oils for a while. Among the drying agents is Liquin which is also supposed to make the paint smoother. I didn't find that to be so. You can use regular thinner to thin the paint, and it is said by leaving a bit of paint on an index card, some of the oil will elach out, reducing drying time. The beauty of slow drying times is the ability to blend colors better for better trasnitions between highlights, base and shadow. You can certainly just do flesh in oils and use other paints for the rest of your builds. To eliminate the sheen, I'd airbrush a coat of Dullcoat as my final step. To speed drying time, some guys place their METAL, not resin or plastic, figures in a crock pot over night.

All that said, a few years ago, I retired from oils and used Andrea and Vallejo acrylics alomost exclusively on my figures.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

  • Member since
    June 2007
I have a need for some tutorage
Posted by squeakie on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:27 AM

Ok, I've read from many sources about the merits of painting figures with oils. Well my figures look worse after painting than before I start! So I goes out and buys some good sable brushes and oil paints, plus the bottle of stuff that's supposed make the oil paint dry in my lifetime (leastwise that's what the brunette says). But I cannot figure out for the life of me whatkind of mix this drying agent is supposed have with the paint. Also do I need to let the paint completely dry before doing anything else with it? Can I use the regular stuff for the clothing and gear, and just do skin colors in oils? And lastly oil paints tend to be kinda glossy, so how do we get around that? I did buy a book on painting with oils and watercolors, but it didn't really go into depth on drying agents.

any help would be a God's send

gary

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