Some say he died in the bunker, but...

Milairjunkie wrote:

I saw a film once, & it said Adolf was alive & well in Brazil, making clones of himself!

the film BOYS FROM BRAZIL it was not him it was dr mengala (excuse the spelling)  he was making clones sent all over the world

it was a great movie 

Man, I love this site more and more each day.

Alright, here's what I heard:

Hitler, Eva and a bunch of SS officers were holed up in a bunker in Berlin. They could hear the Ruskies coming and decided that suicide was the most passive-aggressive thing they could do, so they swallowed some cyanide pills, or shot themselves in the head, or both.

The SS officers present, also being passive-aggressive jerks, decided they didn't want the Russians to even have Adolf's body, so they took it out to the yard and tried to burn it. Unsuccessfully.

The Russians arrive, grab up everybody and start looting. One of the SS officers recounted how humiliated he was by bemoaning the fact that the Russian soldiers kept flushing the toilets over and over; apparently, none of them had ever seen a working flush toilet before...

Hitler made a lot of stupid decisions as der Fuhrer: using the Me262 as a bomber, attacking Russia, thinking he was smart enough to rule the world, etc.

Some say the reason he did so was because he was suffering from the debilitating effects of syphilis. In its late stages, the syphilis virus attacks the human brain, and can cause dementia, paranoia, poor judgment and loss of inhibition.  

Because of inbreeding, syphilis was common to Europe's upper classes, which made a lot of them pretty loopy. It's possible that this disease has done more for the decline of the Monarchies and the promotion of Democracy than the invention of firearms.

Syphilis, like the potato and chocolate, is not native to the Old World. The first reported cases of this disease came soon after Columbus returned from his voyage to the Americas, in the mid 1490's. Looks like randy Christopher brought back more than just silver and slaves.

So...it appears that Christopher Columbus defeated the Nazis. How's that tweak your melon?

I can vouch for the veracity of none of what I just posted. I wouldn't even know where to begin to try to verify any of it. This is just what I heard, and I found it amusing. I hope you did too.

As this thread seems to have gone the ways of 'All things Hitler'... has anyone seen the film 'Downfall'? Its in subtitles and it charts the final days of his evilness and all his cronies. Its absolutely brilliant. Get it. you wont regret it.

Also, as for checking the authenticity of the bone fragments, didnt Hitler have a sister, who changed her name and lived 'still' in Germany to a right old age?

Oh and as for the figure. Its great, i love it. The hands are a litlle on the large side but still looks the biz.

...Guy

agentg wrote:

Siotenly looks like Hitler, Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk I do not currently have any one thing on the bench. I as yet have no bench! More precisely it is legless in the garage. I have spent my time painting a 1:1 home and furnishing same. When it finally warms up here I'll begin organizing the "man cave". First on my to do list though is .........RIDE. I have the bike back from my buddy's garage, now that I have my own, and many miles of unexplored hghway in southern Nevada/California. Death Valley is first...................ominous isn't it?  Look Moe a navigator!

     

   Are you sure thats Hitler and not really Moe Howard.

Cosmic J wrote:

Well golly gee, thanks guys. It sure is nice when someone steps up and takes the role of Internet Police. I mean, if it wasn't for guys like you, people might just post anything they're thinking about. Can't have that! I was talking to a gent the other day, and he expressed the opinion that the internet existed to foster the free and democratic exchange of ideas, even ideas that are unpopular or offensive. What a fool! Everyone knows that the internet exists to promote mindless "Me-Too"-ism! What could he be thinking? I sure am glad someone is watching out for me around here! Lord knows, left to my own devices, I might post something other than "Great Work" or "Nice Job"! Then where would I be? Thanks again guys, for being the arbiters of everyone's good taste. What would we ever do without you?   P.S. Have you put in your resumes to the Department of Homeland Security? I hear they're always looking for guys just like you. (At least until Jan. 15, 2009...)

Well golly gee, thanks guys. It sure is nice when someone steps up and takes the role of Internet Police. I mean, if it wasn't for guys like you, people might just post anything they're thinking about. Can't have that!

I was talking to a gent the other day, and he expressed the opinion that the internet existed to foster the free and democratic exchange of ideas, even ideas that are unpopular or offensive. What a fool! Everyone knows that the internet exists to promote mindless "Me-Too"-ism! What could he be thinking?

I sure am glad someone is watching out for me around here! Lord knows, left to my own devices, I might post something other than "Great Work" or "Nice Job"! Then where would I be?

Thanks again guys, for being the arbiters of everyone's good taste. What would we ever do without you?

P.S. Have you put in your resumes to the Department of Homeland Security? I hear they're always looking for guys just like you.

(At least until Jan. 15, 2009...)

M. Hembree wrote:

Well said, Sir Doog. We can all agree: 1) Hitler was a bad guy. 2) Plenty of reliable witnesses to the death of Adolph and Eva. Kaput. Everything else is gravy. 3) Great modeling on the figure that started this thread. 4) Back to the models! Best regards,

Well said, Sir Doog. We can all agree:

1) Hitler was a bad guy.

2) Plenty of reliable witnesses to the death of Adolph and Eva. Kaput. Everything else is gravy.

3) Great modeling on the figure that started this thread.

4) Back to the models!

Best regards, 

forest gump wrote:  agentg wrote: Offensive to everyone? I LIKE that idea!    what do you mean ?

D'oh!! I just got it.

Gentlemen, perhaps this discussion of Hitler has worn out it's usefulness? It's always a touchy subject, but now it seems to have gone off onto some unrelated and irrelevant tangent? What's on your desks that you're working on?

Dude, this thing went off the rails a long way back. bultenibo did an excellent build up... of Hitler. To be honest, I looked in here in the first place because I thought the author might be one of those closet Nazi sympathizers I sometimes run into at military model shows. I was relieved to see that was not the case, and I learned a little something as well.

Tangents aren't always bad...

  I'm working on a model of a T-34 / 85 in Berlin...

forest gump wrote:

agentg wrote: Offensive to everyone? I LIKE that idea! what do you mean ?

What's on your desks that you're working on?

agentg wrote:

Offensive to everyone? I LIKE that idea!

what do you mean ? 

How about a model of a T-34 / 85 in Berlin, w/ the first six inches of the barrel firmly wedged up Hitlers bum...

The expression on Hitler's face, just a second or two before the gun was fired...it's funny and offensive to just about everybody.

Jimf wrote:

It is not a sad event that Hitler did not produce the Stg44.  Adolph Hitler was largely responsible for the untimely deaths of some 50 to 60 Million people.

 jim, I wasn't serious, I know what he did and I know it was wrong, I was using scarcasm and I could care less who built the strg-44 assualt rifle, for all I care the chinese could of made it (not trying to be offensive to anyone) . Also my grandfathers and grandmothers fled from the nazis because they were jewish 

Panzerjaeger wrote:

The alzheimers would have made it difficult to aim! Nice bit of humour. Cheers, Arthur

Alzheimer's?  I thought he had Parkinson's.  Had he had Alzheimer's he'd just wander around Berlin in his bathrobe. 

The figure is in fact, based on it's premise good.

Elvis is alive and well I saw him walking down the strip in front of Bellagio two nights ago.

Okay, now Im worried. Step away from the work bench and all those sharp, sharp tools. Do it slooowly, verrrrry slowly.

The figure itself is well done and nicely painted. What scale is it and who made it? It is so contrary to what we know that it is kinda funny, actually. I mean, here was a guy cowering in a bunker in his last hours, gone delusional while all crashed down around him. I can't see him going out in a blaze of cowboy-esque gunfire, taking out all who opposed him like some Teutonic Rambo. Sadly, the fact is that other potentially great men and women died FOR him, while he plotted his own suicidal demise.

That's what makes this figure so special. It is so anti HIM that it becomes unique.

Yes dahut

anyway I still think that figure is pretty good.

Sorry Dahut " border="0" width="15" height="15" /> i'm especially sorry about what I wrote & as the doog said I didn't know where you were coming from in that post " border="0" width="19" height="15" />  I WAS HAVING A STRESSFUL DAY 

anyway, we got off on a bad start, so... I'M REALLY SORRY !DAHUT

Apology accepted. Friends again?

daiguma wrote:

Yea but, What about Elvis???   I love the figure and the humor. I have 2 Hitler figs lying around. Can't bring myself to actually build them. Just dosen't seem right to me to display them.

  ...............

(sorry! I couldn't resist!!!!)

Yea but, What about Elvis???

I love the figure and the humor. I have 2 Hitler figs lying around. Can't bring myself to actually build them. Just dosen't seem right to me to display them.

bultenibo wrote:

...according to this contralfactual figure, he took to the street - and he was pretty mad to have lost the war!!!

Sorry Dahut

i'm especially sorry about what I wrote & as the doog said I didn't know where you were coming from in that post

 I WAS HAVING A STRESSFUL DAY 

anyway, we got off on a bad start, so...

I'M REALLY SORRY !DAHUT

Holy Moly Ladies, I had no idea a simple inquiry would touch off this powder keg!

That's always how it goes. Check 'em out - most threads are resolved in the first five posts. After that everyone adds their $.02 and it usually goes of on a tangent. But, it's okay. Most active posters are nothing if not opinionated.

They have a life of their own, these threads.

dahut wrote:

However, from a scientific perspective I would argue there is value in being able to say, "Yes, this is a piece of Hitler's skull".  I say that based on the debate that did rage about what became of him, and the tendency for some wack-a-doos to claim that, in the absence of any evidence, der Furher is still alive and they must prepare for his return.  On the flip side are the victims and the families of victims who must be left to wonder, "Could he still be alive, could he come back" - sort of like Voldermort in Harry Potter.  So having clear, definitive, scientific proof that he is dead - as a biological anthropologist and osteologist, I can tell you it is pretty tough to live without your jaw and/or a big chunk of your skull - is important.  Excellent point and well presented. My own position comes from speaking with many Germans, old and young alike, on the matter. They are essentially of one voice on the matter, as I've presented here. From the victims point of view, well, it matters, I can see that now. The psychobabble term in fashion now for this is "closure," I believe. From the whack-a-doo's point of view, it doesn't and musn't matter. We shouldn't give them an ear, yet we should watch them closely. Good chat, here, doog and bbrownii... how it should be done, I might add.

Thanks for the kind words... it is nice when we can actually discuss sensitive topics in a calm, reasoned manner, like... ummm..... adults?  Yeah, that's it, adults ...

As to the wack-a-doos, I only disagree with you on a minor point - I definately give them an ear, because I want to know what those nut-jobs are spouting and ranting about (while a VERY close eye is kept on them, as you say).

Good chat, man...  I think we have reached 'closure' on this one, but I'm sure I'll see you 'around campus'...

However, from a scientific perspective I would argue there is value in being able to say, "Yes, this is a piece of Hitler's skull".  I say that based on the debate that did rage about what became of him, and the tendency for some wack-a-doos to claim that, in the absence of any evidence, der Furher is still alive and they must prepare for his return.  On the flip side are the victims and the families of victims who must be left to wonder, "Could he still be alive, could he come back" - sort of like Voldermort in Harry Potter.  So having clear, definitive, scientific proof that he is dead - as a biological anthropologist and osteologist, I can tell you it is pretty tough to live without your jaw and/or a big chunk of your skull - is important. 

Excellent point and well presented. My own position comes from speaking with many Germans, old and young alike, on the matter. They are essentially of one voice on the matter, as I've presented here.

From the victims point of view, well, it matters, I can see that now. The psychobabble term in fashion now for this is "closure," I believe. From the whack-a-doo's point of view, it doesn't and musn't matter. We shouldn't give them an ear, yet we should watch them closely.

Good chat, here, doog and bbrownii... how it should be done, I might add.

Well said, dahut--and not necessarily "taking sides" here--I think forrest gump's post was perhaps a bit motivated by not knowing where you were coming from in the first post, ...

In the interests of simplicity, I took a little license with the first post. I do tend to forget that many people take things dead point literal and don't read between the lines well.