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The Endless Nausicaa Model Thread

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Posted by OctaneOrange on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:38 PM

interesting modelling work there. a shame the styrene panels need to be covered in paint (hopefully you wont' loose to much detail). it's worth pushing ahead with these, they are so unique.

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Posted by Kugai on Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:17 PM

Real G

I'd fancy the big flying centipede (I think it was called a Hebigera).  But I still can't figure out how to make realistic transparent veined wings.  Plus I already have too many projects.

In case you seriously try that some day, I can think of a few ways that could be done, but I don't know how thin and delicate the wings were on the originals you're talking about.

One option I can think of is vacuform with clear styrene.  That's the best way I can think of to get the parts thin enough to look right, but the catch is having the equipment.

Another option would be clear resin, which I've never used, but the parts could end up being very brittle if  that stuff behaves like the resin I've used when cast in thin pieces.

Another that might work could use clear brush-on material of some type and a leaf with a vein pattern that fits what you like ( I remember this being used in a science class so that we could see what some structures look like under a microscope when we couldn't use the leaf itself ), cover the area with layers of the clear paint ( the science class project used clear nail polish ) as needed, then peel it off when it's dry.  You can use a water-based wash to bring out the vein details on the rough side, and trim to fit a thin wire "outline" of the wing shape that the sheet could be glued to.  Again, this would be delicate, but it would have a natural look to it and save you the trouble of sculpting the details, or messing with molds for resin or equipment for vacuforming.

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Posted by Real G on Sunday, October 21, 2012 4:32 AM

Here  is a link to the other Nausica kits, as produced by Bandai:

http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljlist?GenreCode2=Sci&Word=nausicaa&x=23&y=20

The Ohmu could easily represent an adult, as they all look the same save for size.  The big harpoons in the kit are optional, so the baby Ohmu comes without any pre-molded injuries thank goodness.  It was a pretty nice kit; the only mods I did were to move the legs a bit inboard (which the Bandai version seems to have addressed?) and added some yellow antennas from Kynar wire.

The Studio Ghibli bugs were really nice, but yeah, I'd rather try to make them myself.  I'd fancy the big flying centipede (I think it was called a Hebigera).  But I still can't figure out how to make realistic transparent veined wings.  Plus I already have too many projects.

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Posted by Kugai on Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:38 AM

I never got to see any older kits that you mention, and only have the gunship ( not up to getting too many figure kits at this point ), so I can't really compare to the older versions you mentioned.

If I really wanted to make the Ohmu or other bugs, I'd rather try to make them myself than pay the prices you mentioned.  Even if it took 4 or 5 tries to get the sculpting right, it seems to me that the time and materials would cost a heck of a lot less for what I'd be content to display.

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, October 20, 2012 7:05 PM

Thanks for the comments Kugai!

Yeah, I bought all the kits when they were first issued, but only finished two of the "Nausica on Kai" figure and one "Nausica with Ohmu".  Unfortunately, they were all for friends and I didn't have a digital camera back then, so no photos.  Sad  I noticed Bandai re-engineered the kits for snap construction.  Did they alter anything else?  There were some details that were correct for the comic but not the movie, like Nausica's headgear.  While digging around in the Moeve's box where the Pejite Gunship was stored, I noticed that I made new flaps of a more rectangular shape compared to the kit supplied items, plus a scratchbuilt "golf club" thingy that Nausica had in the movie.  You see, the models sat for so long that I forgot what I had done to them!

If I get around to doing the Corvette, it will probably be mostly vac formed sheet.  A friend has started dabbling in resin casting, so maybe I'll see if I can cast the detail parts that require multiple copies.

I wonder if anyone ever tried to make the other machines in the show, like the Pejite Barge and "anti-gravity flower pot", or the Tolmekian assault tank?  I saw some hand made bugs from the movie for sale at the Studio Ghibli shop in Japan.  They were mounted in wood boxes with glass tops, just like real preserved insect specimens, but a quick peek at the price tags discouraged me from a purchase.  (They were something like $1,500 to $2,500 USD, if I recall.  And no, I didn't inadvertently add extra zeros.)  The dragonfly looking things really caught my eye, as I couldn't figure out how the wings were made.  The veining was utterly realistic.

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Posted by Kugai on Saturday, October 20, 2012 3:07 PM

Those are really impressive, especially the transport!

The corvette you mention is probably my favorite design from the story.  You'll have to post it if you ever make one.

In case you're interested in the valley of the Wind Gunship, Bandai made a kit, but availability may be an issue.

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The Endless Nausicaa Model Thread
Posted by Real G on Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:49 PM

Nausicaa was the first Miyazaki film that I watched back in the 1980s, and it was stunning compared to the Japanese shows I was familiar with (Mazinger Z, Raideen, etc).  What really blew me away was the design of the aircraft, which had an almost Mobeius aesthetic.  I loved the chemical rocket propulsion, open cockpits, and utterly alien layouts.  Tsukuda released a couple of plastic kits from the movie including the Valley of the Winds Gunship, and promised an extensive lineup, but alas none materialized.

After watching the movie, I was so crazy about having models of the hardware from the show that I began a couple of scratchbuild projects.  The first was the Pejite Gunship, which made a spectacular but brief appearance in the movie.  The small one man fighter with its blood red paint scheme reminded me of the first Me-163B Komet to perform a combat sortie.

Pejite Gunship 01

I didn't really have any scratchbuilding experience back in the day, so I used some questionable techniques, like plank on frame!  I also used Bondo filler between plastic formers to make compound curved parts like the mid wing bulges.  Just the forward fuselage was vac formed over balsa masters, which is what I should have done for the entire airframe.

Pejite Gunship 02

The model is guesstimated at 1/48, as I only had some development sketches and movie stills to go by.  I think my interpretation was off, as I feel the wings are too chunky overall.

Pejite Gunship 03

Below are some bits I made for the cockpit.  20 years of knocking about in a box has led to one of the control handles breaking off.  The little triangular thing on the left is a sighting vane, made from carved sheet plastic.  I can't see well enough to attempt such things anymore; I'd better not lose that part.

Pejite Gunship 05

The second "oldie-moldie" project is the Tolmekian Empire "Bakagalas" heavy transport.  The lumbering Me-323-like aircraft were seen being decimated by the Pejite gunship in the movie.  For this model, I used aircraft plywood and sheet plastic profiles and formers filled in with balsa wood to establish the basic shapes, and covered the surfaces with bent up sheets of plastic.  The aircraft in the movie had a lumpy, bumpy, saggy look to them, which carried over to the enormous wings.  They had all manner of dihedral and anhedral along the entire span, which would have made the Handley Page Victor blush!  Scale is again a best guess, but I am claiming 1/200 and am sticking with my story!  As you can see from the photo below, the span is over two feet.

Bakagalas 01

 

Bakagalas 02

Again, plank on frame sheet plastic construction featured in this build.  I started having trouble when I got to the outer wings, where the leading edges were too sharp to bend the sheet material around, thus bringing the project to a halt.  I didn't think to heat form or use thin sheets of epoxy putty at the time.

Bakagalas 03

I used a compass needle to make rivets (which will now require the use of an Optivisor to complete the work).  It is interesting to see that the sheet plastic has yellowed differently over the years in storage.  I started the twin fins and the landing gear fairings, but can't find them at the moment.  Back then, I was stumped for a source of multiple balloon tires.  The aftermarket has sure grown, as it will be extremely easy to get them now.

When I started these projects two decades ago, I just charged into them without knowing how I would make any of the parts.  I think I bit off more than I could chew, which is what led them to be shelved.  The Bakagalas' structure is extremely sound, and has withstood time well.  The Gunship's proportions look off to me, so it might be scrapped and redone using smarter techniques.  I never did start on the Tolmekian Corvette, which looks like a scrapped He-111 fuselage with tandem wings.  Maybe I'll attempt that one and the Pejite Gunship in 1/72, to go with Tsukuda's Valley of the Wind Gunship.  Which I also have not started.  Embarrassed

Anyhow, comments, critiques, and a motivational kick in the pants are welcome!

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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