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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, September 6, 2018 7:28 AM

I've loved Dern in most of his roles too but as I said I've never seen this...

Kinda the same as I'm a big Martin Landau fan but I've only seen one episode of Space 1999. Tongue Tied

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:07 AM

littletimmy
One "Slightly used" Icarus / Liberty 1 spacecraft.                            ( only used for re-entry Once.)

The craft is currently Lost in Space. But--we are homing in on it. With a $3000 bounty--Han Solo will find it. Just ask Princess Leia. She knows... she knows everything.

littletimmy
Custom radar / vecter/ infra-Red/ thingy has been installed on nose ( factory option)

And it's free of charge to you.

littletimmy
m sorry, but I find myself short on fund's at the moment.

So... you are saying that there is a chance... Yes

LOL. I missed the party here last night. Good stuff! I was busy packing up this tub. Er, I mean, this well-crafted and finely engineered model. It needs to be ready for immediate shipment. "You want to cancel the order? Sorry! It shipped!" 

Fine print: No Quitsiesno anti-quitsiesno startsies!

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 6, 2018 9:18 AM

Gamera

And I think it came with a LP record player.

(Slight smoke damage though).

 

Right!  Timmy! Let me sweeten the deal for you. I'll throw in some rather gnarly and mostly intact engine nozzels. All this--free of charge. Man! How can you pass that up? Yes

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Posted by littletimmy on Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:05 PM

Bakster
Fine print: No Quitsies, no anti-quitsies, no startsies!  

But , .... But, ...... I had my finger's crossed !

                                                       ( Oh poo ....)

 

I DONE BEEN "RAILROADED" ! ! ! 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:08 PM

My wife want's to talk to you.

RUN !

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:14 PM

littletimmy
My wife want's to talk to you. RUN !

LOL.

 

 

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:22 PM

littletimmy
I DONE BEEN "RAILROADED" ! ! ! 

Ok Tim. I'll let you off the hook. Friends don't railroad friends. Well, yes they do. But--you pulled out your secret, get off my back jack, weapon. That being.... your wife.  I see the error of my ways. Running!

Who else can I finagle? One that doesn't have a wife...

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Posted by littletimmy on Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:55 PM

Bakster
Who else can I finagle? One that doesn't have a wife...

Sorry I had to "Play the wife card".

She has gotten me out of more than one barfight..... By starting one herself !

TRUE STORY: While we were still living in Winnemucca NV. I had a part time , well paying job, driving a water tender for the local Sherrif.

He came by our place on day , with a county inspector. ( The inspector didnt know how to get to our place and the Sherrif was just being nice and gave him a ride.)

The Inspecter was there by our request to visably inspect our mobile home set up.

The Sherrif was driving a White SUV. We had a Ner-do-well neighbor who also drove a White SUV. My wife saw the SUV and thought it was the Thieving neighbor, so she came RUNNING out of the house and grabbed our BIG Crowbar ( 4 foot long wit a Spike on the end ) And procceded to wave it about WILDLY and all the while screaming profanity ...

( something about how they were about to meet the Devil while trying to remove said Crowbar.)

Anyway's , this freaked the inspecter out and scared the you know what out of him. He couldnt believe this 100 LBS hellion was Attacking the Sherrif ( he did have a gun.... why wasn't he using it.)

After the Sherrif got out of the car , my wife recognised him and they all had a good laugh about it. But the Inspecter went back to his office ,and told his co-worker's All about the Crazy woman with a Crowbar ,who Dared to take on the Sherrif.

Winnemucca is a kinda small town, so word quickly spread .....

DONT MESS WITH TIM"S WIFE !

( She even scare's Tim .....sometime's ....)

 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 6, 2018 11:03 PM

Nice! With wives like that... who needs a gun!

Good story, man. And, good luck...

Running faster now.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 7, 2018 7:45 AM

Ohmygawd!!! Great story there Timmy! 

 

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by littletimmy on Friday, September 7, 2018 9:25 PM

I got an even better story.....

it's called: BAXTER got a kit.

It start's out pretty good, then it get's kinda slow during the sanding process.

At one point , our Hero seem's to give up,...

I havent read the ending yet, but I bet it's going to be a "Edge of your seat" plot twist that will prove, once and for all...

That you CAN make something Beautiful, out of a block of  dripping ooze.

( course I could be wrong..... and it turn's out our Hero is actually a mad Scientist bent on world wide model destruction.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, September 7, 2018 11:03 PM

littletimmy

I got an even better story.....

it's called: BAXTER got a kit.

It start's out pretty good, then it get's kinda slow during the sanding process.

At one point , our Hero seem's to give up,...

I havent read the ending yet, but I bet it's going to be a "Edge of your seat" plot twist that will prove, once and for all...

That you CAN make something Beautiful, out of a block of  dripping ooze.

( course I could be wrong..... and it turn's out our Hero is actually a mad Scientist bent on world wide model destruction.

 

Laughing. That is an awesome story, a great thought, and a cool creation!

Buddy, you are being psychic again. Just yesterday I was thinking: Wouldn't it be something if after all my travail, and complaining, that I turn back to this sometime and make it a decent build. Truth is ... I have already fixed the most messed up part of it. The next step of fixing all the holes is a pretty minor deal. It's just time consuming, and I have lost my patience for it. Like you said, I am bent on model destruction. I'd rather put a bullet into it. Time has a way of fixing that sort of malady, though.

We will have to wait and see what the Lawgiver says about it.

Then I thought: If I do do something with it... think of the massive gap in this WIP that a person will have to wade through. There will be pages and pages of banter. At which point I laughingly muttered, "your point is?!!"

My last parting thought for the night: Good thing I don't live near you because I think we would have a grand time blasting this model into a million pieces. 

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, September 7, 2018 11:21 PM

Bakster
My last parting thought for the night: Good thing I don't live near you because I think we would have a grand time blasting this model into a million pieces. 

I just had a thought. Maybe we let your wife take care of it using that poker thing. Now THAT... would be something to see.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, September 7, 2018 11:54 PM

Gamera
So is a remake of 'Silent Running' in production yet? If not I'm looking for one in the next ten years or so considering Hollywierd's current obsession with remaking everything.

Have not heard of that (sadly, they are remaking Predator, with no Arnold--so, that's going to be a great steaming pile of excrement, also not set in South America or near narcosdel sol).

Hmm, a Silent Running remake.

Ok, Villan:  Eil Corporations, Check

Cute robots, Check

Ecowarrior bravely saving biosphere, Check

So, tht looks like a 'go' given present h'wood standards.  And, yes, Dern is irreplacable; but h'wood would make the hero some downtrodden urban inner city character anyway.

Now, I'm depressed.  Now, if we could get some of the places that still make really good movies, with things like polts, sotrylines, realistic characters and the like; like say Australia, NZ, Czech, Korea even, that would be something.  Mind they'd likel actually read the book.  Which would make for an een better movie.  Oh well.

Now, on the KSP front, I did some ciphering (I know, dangerous stuff, unsupervised and all).  For a proper biosphere, you'd probably need about 150m of height.  And, from my reading, you need something near 30m of soil depth to root trees.  And you need somwhere around 3-5km across to give enough hectares to support a biome.

Then, it turns out, space is not that bright.  Excepting near the la Grange points in the Earth-Moon system.  So, a glass dome is not terribly effective, either.  A sort of "cakebox" actually is a bettter geometry for the exercise.

It turns out that KSP will let you build a 3km x 200 cylinder.  You can then surround it with an aspergas farm of solid rocket boosters.  Getting that to orbit without an "unplanned vehicle disassembly" is a bit more complicated.  What will fly, though, is a wedge of a cylinder.  Even if it really resembles a rocket-powered cow.  KSP does not have a neat mechanism to join complex parts in space (and you want to hold parts counts down, as the physics of nearly every part is continuously calcuated).  So, I'll probably have to "cheat" the cakeboxes into orbit to test out my "sorta" valley Forge.

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, September 8, 2018 8:58 AM

CapnMac82
Now, I'm depressed.  Now, if we could get some of the places that still make really good movies, with things like polts, sotrylines, realistic characters and the like; like say Australia, NZ, Czech, Korea even, that would be something.  Mind they'd likel actually read the book.  Which would make for an een better movie.  Oh well.

I can't agree more. It is a good year for me if I take in one movie at the theatre. In the early to mid 80s I would go almost every weekend! And many of the movies were good! Now?  Pffff, it's a joke. Let's just keep throwing mindless, predictable, effects driven action movies at the public. Sadly, they are making money doing it. So, I don't expect to see that change. Some of you may remember the writers strike many years back. In my opinion, that is when the industry dived into the toilet. Here and there we have seen some gems come out. But, it is the exception, and not the norm.

Just my opinion.

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:37 AM

Capt Mac: That sounds really cool, I'd love to see how you work up the whole 'cakebox' idea.

 

And yeah Hollyweird is gone, what we have now is a zombie shuffling around dead but doesn't know it yet. I do not watch the remakes. I don't care anymore. The only movie I've watched this year was 'The Meg'. It was pretty friggin' stupid (no surprise) but it was a barrel of fun and wasn't a remake of anything (though they did rip off Jaws and pretty much every other giant killer shark movie).

The remake of Magnum P.I. frankly just broke me. I've heard we now have Higgins as badass retired female MI6 agent. Someone just shoot Hollyweird and put it out of it's misery already... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:48 AM

Gamera
And yeah Hollyweird is gone, what we have now is a zombie shuffling around dead but doesn't know it yet. I do not watch the remakes. I don't care anymore.

Amen brother. Well said. Btw. Because I loved the original Blade Runner so much, I gave the new one a try. I thought it was pretty good. There was an element of story to it. So, by today's standards, that is pretty good. I enjoyed it. I might buy the DVD.

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, September 8, 2018 10:04 AM

Bakster

 

 
Gamera
And yeah Hollyweird is gone, what we have now is a zombie shuffling around dead but doesn't know it yet. I do not watch the remakes. I don't care anymore.

 

Amen brother. Well said. Btw. Because I loved the original Blade Runner so much, I gave the new one a try. I thought it was pretty good. There was an element of story to it. So, by today's standards, that is pretty good. I enjoyed it. I might buy the DVD.

 

 

Well, the new Blade Runner is a sequel not a remake so I don't have any problem with it. Not a great movie but it was still pretty good. I watched it in the theater and I bought the Blu-Ray recently.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, September 8, 2018 5:16 PM

DUPLICATE POST , PLEASE SEE THE POST BELOW.

( Darn compu , .... ER .... Rock with letter's on it ...)

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 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, September 8, 2018 5:24 PM

Bakster
Then I thought: If I do do something with it... think of the massive gap in this WIP that a person will have to wade through. There will be pages and pages of banter. At which point I laughingly muttered, "your point is?!!"

This was my fear as well. Nobody here want's to read a bunch of banter between the 5 or 6 of us, while waiting for update's on the Icarus. 

It kinda make's us look like were a "Clique", and the defenition make's us seem Snobby.

I don't want to be "Those Guy's "

clique
[klēk, klik]
NOUN
cliques (plural noun)
  1. a small group of people, with shared interests or other features in common, who spend time together and do not readily allow others to join them.
     
     
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Thats why I kinda poked you to continue with the build... Good , Bad , "Shot in the backyard", anything to keep us from becomeing a bunch of rambling post's that 5 year's from now,someone will be looking for Good info on how to build the Icraus..... and instead they find my "Hi-Jack Baxter's Thread with Star Trek Meme's" .
 
( or whatever else I find on the Inter-Web ...)

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, September 8, 2018 8:02 PM

Bakster
I'd rather put a bullet into it.

Bakster
We will have to wait and see what the Lawgiver says about it.

Bakster
Good thing I don't live near you because I think we would have a grand time blasting this model into a million pieces. 

If you "DO" decide to teach it a lesson, make sure to use some protection..... sometime's blowing stuff up has it's hazzard's...

Even when it go's right, it can go wrong...

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, September 8, 2018 8:44 PM

 

Clique

A couple of points. Everyone has always been welcome to post. We are not stopping them. If they don't post, it is on them. The same thing happend with my Seaview thread. A number of people posted early on, then nothing more, so says the Raven. Those same people didn't even return when the build was finished. Pehaps this is a case of reverse clique. Only a few WIP faithful remained, yourself being one of them. So, for this, I have no remorse. I hate cliques, and I will NEVER be a party to them.

Here is the thing. Yeah, I could do some work on the thing, but my heart is not in it. What is one little update here or there going to do towards salvaging this thread. In my opinion, absolutely nothing. Not until I put my heart back into this will it become viable again. 

The project is on hold until further notice. The simplest solution is to let the thread die. When I am ready, I can start it up again.

The other side of the coin is that even though the project has been dead for awhile now, people continue to view. Maybe the banter and the fun that we have here brings them enjoyment as well. Maybe, they don't care about the build, really. And I'd be ok with that.

Lastly, please don't feel obligated to try and keep the thread alive. I don't mind if it goes away. I appreciate the huge effort you guys invested in this. Hopefully, it was fun for you too.

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:13 PM

Bakster
please don't feel obligated to try and keep the thread alive. I don't mind if it goes away. I appreciate the huge effort you guys invested in this.

Well, ... now what do I do ?

( Guess I picked the wrong day to stop drinking...)

Bakster
I hate cliques, and I will NEVER be a party to them.

Didn't mean to say we were a clique, Was just trying to let other's know to "Chime in".

What we "SHOULD DO " is take this, and start again in the FSM ready room . ( Call it Baxter's Refugee's)  Then we could ramble on and on at will. I'm sure we could draw other's into our " messed up " conversation.

Then when your ready,  pump some Voltage into this W.I.P. and we will drift back in here.

 

 

 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:26 PM

littletimmy
What we "SHOULD DO " is take this, and start again in the FSM ready room . ( Call it Baxter's Refugee's)  Then we could ramble on and on at will. I'm sure we could draw other's into our " messed up " conversation.

I like that idea.

Yes

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Posted by littletimmy on Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:46 PM

Bakster
I like that idea.

Tim Kidwell and Aaron Skinner use to have their own version of "nonsence" . I believe it was called  Today at FSM.

What should we call our's ?

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 8, 2018 10:52 PM

shinannigan's with baxter and timmy .

 

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, September 8, 2018 10:56 PM

Lol. Thats a funny one Steve. 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, September 8, 2018 11:04 PM

Gamera
I'd love to see how you work up the whole 'cakebox' idea.

Well, as is very common with KSP, the unplanned vehicle disassemblies occasionally steer towards a different answer that one started with.

I have the game mod which supports LaGrangian points in the Kerbal-Mun sytem (ok, I'm a geek, I like the gravity reactions you get).  So, since I can get wdeges into orbit, I can tow them to the lagrange points and build up a gravity-stable 3km round "space station" of sorts.  So, I've managed to wander off into sketching designs that let sunlight in and also create diurnal cycles (biomes need those).

Which is leaning toward a "U" shape with a glass lid formed into a hoop.  The glazed side can face the sun, and the bottom of the hoop will provide a natural twilight and night.  Now I just have to cipher out what 1 rpd diameter gives at least 0.6G that also allows 150m depth.

Oh well.

I'm going to go plug my copy of Once Were Giants in the bluray, as a movie with a beginning, middle, and end is very appealing right now.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, September 8, 2018 11:05 PM

littletimmy

 

 
Bakster
I like that idea.

 

Tim Kidwell and Aaron Skinner use to have their own version of "nonsence" . I believe it was called  Today at FSM.

What should we call our's ?

 

 I don't know. I might have to sleep on it. Kinda not feeling it. Tired of the fighting that goes on in the rest of the forum.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, September 10, 2018 7:43 PM

Bakster
Friends don't railroad friends.

Unless they are model railroaders Smile

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