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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 18, 2018 11:15 PM

If I have do any sanding then it's a no joy. It's too small and too tight an area. In that case I'd just leave it as is. Well, thanks anyway. I might test the white glue.

You better get some sleep sir. Me too. Talk soon.

PS: Tomorrow I will have an update on the engine bells. 

Later.

 

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, June 18, 2018 11:04 PM

Bakster
I had a thought about the pitting on the seatbacks. Can you think of anything I could paint on that would fill those deformities and leave a smooth finish? I thought maybe something like white glue might work? Any thought on this?

If there not too deep, MR. Surfacer might work.

Deeper pit's you could use Spot bondo. I'm not sure if White glue will stick to resin.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 18, 2018 10:50 PM

Interesting thought. I'll store that for if needed. 

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, June 18, 2018 10:43 PM

Bakster
Why do you ask? Any reason?

I found a "Trick" that will give you the "look" of texture, but isn't really textured.

Someone on this forum used "Panty hose" to duplicate the heat tile's on the space shuttle he was building. Looked very convincing.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 18, 2018 10:36 PM

littletimmy

I got another stupid question for you......

Does the kit have the "Textured" interior ?

 

Yes. The floor and the ceiling is. It looks pretty decent too. It cuts both ways though. In order to save that texture it will limit my ability to run wires around. Why do you ask? Any reason?

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 18, 2018 10:32 PM

I had a thought about the pitting on the seatbacks. Can you think of anything I could paint on that would fill those deformities and leave a smooth finish? I thought maybe something like white glue might work? Any thoughts on this?

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, June 18, 2018 10:32 PM

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 18, 2018 10:27 PM

Tim, its solid. And yes. I plan to remove what they molded and build it from scratch. If I can salvage any part of it I will. Maybe the wall at the feet or something. But... I highly doubt any of it will be useable. 

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, June 18, 2018 10:13 PM

just curious.....

Is the part with the cryo chamber's solid , or hollow ?

If it's solid, you have a  "L O T"  of Resin to remove. You "may" be better off cutting the whole chunk out and scratchbuilding with Plastistruct.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 18, 2018 8:01 PM

littletimmy
That's what happen's to me .... then I move to the kitchen table ( thus "enraging" the wife.) I see The saw is Charged.

lol

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, June 18, 2018 8:01 PM

Bakster
Pretty soon my workspace will be the size of a dot.

That's what happen's to me .... then I move to the kitchen table ( thus "enraging" the wife.)

I see The saw is Charged.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, June 18, 2018 7:53 PM

CapnMac82
The Saints might be more geopgraphically apt

I hitch-hiked all over the place following them. I dont really know why... ( I didnt care for most of their music) It was the "Carnival" atmosphere I liked .... plus some "other stuff" I cannot mention here.

Who / What are saint's  ? Louisiana Football team ?

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 18, 2018 7:47 PM

I received the MIM window plastic and it's the same stuff as in the first kit. You can see that optically it is nothing to write home about. Secondly, it has a severe bend to it. As best as I can tell--I don't need it warped as such. Here is the worst part. That plastic has an incredible memory to it. You can bend it straight under a strong tension, but it will snap back like nobody's business. It'd need heat treating, and I am not sure if that would even do it. This is not worth the effort. I will find something much better than this.

I think that I am done with fixing the seats. There is some pitting on the seatbacks that I can't get at. I doubt it will be that noticeable once painted. 

I did use CA to fill and repair some of the goings on with these. It worked fine. My concern was with the hardness of CA and that over-sanding could destroy the surrounding areas. I followed my regular regime of using accelerator, then an aggressive sand grit stick, tapered down to a finer grit. I had no problems.

These are far from perfect; I think close enough. I usually wait to paint until I am closer to assembly. In this case, I will probably paint them sooner than later. In-between that--I will work on sanding the hull. There is a lot of work to do along those lines.

Timmy-- remember how clean my new WB was in the Seaview build? Well--not so much anymore. This build is reaching interstellar space, near to a large black hole. Everything surrounding this build is being sucked into its vortex. Pretty soon my workspace will be the size of a dot. This is gonna be a wild ride man.

Drinks

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, June 18, 2018 7:28 PM

Bakster
Timmy chased the Grateful Dead full-time!

The Saints might be more geopgraphically apt Smile

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 18, 2018 6:48 PM

Gamera

Thanks guys for an interesting read!!! 

I didn't enter the world until late '69... 

I vaguly remember the 'Planet of the Apes' cartoon show but that's about it. 

I saw first all the movies back in the '90s when the SF Channel (back when it wasn't gawdawful) ran a 'Planet of the Apes' week. 

 

Thanks for chiming in. You know.. I had faithfully seen all of those early sequels and each movie was progressively worse. IMO. They made some real stinkers. It didn't help that the movie studio kept cutting the budget to make them. I have not seen any of the newer ones since the Tim Burton version. I was not a fan of his movie and it ruined me for any of the others that came after. I should probably give them a try.

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 18, 2018 2:19 PM

Thanks guys for an interesting read!!! 

I didn't enter the world until late '69... 

I vaguly remember the 'Planet of the Apes' cartoon show but that's about it. 

I saw first all the movies back in the '90s when the SF Channel (back when it wasn't gawdawful) ran a 'Planet of the Apes' week. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by PeterPan on Monday, June 18, 2018 4:20 AM

Peter

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 17, 2018 10:30 PM

Lol! Awesome....  Good job Tim! Lol.

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, June 17, 2018 10:21 PM

                                 You say your going to install Nozzle's ???

                      I dont see them on the "Instruction's" ... ???

You mean to say that your going to "Scratchbuild" them ?????

Is there a chance he may Succeed ???

If he does ...... We're all   "Screwed" !

 

 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, June 17, 2018 9:53 PM

                             I HATE MONDAY'S !

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 17, 2018 9:14 PM

littletimmy

 

 
Bakster
Timmy! You worked? 

 

I had to..... Most hobby store's dont accept "Bootleg" Greatful Dead tape's as payment.

( I also had to "Occasionally" buy food.)

 

Life would be a lot easier if we didn't have to eat. It makes us work. Speaking of. It's almost time to slap on my pre-Monday morning glum face.

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, June 17, 2018 8:53 PM

Bakster
Timmy! You worked? 

I had to..... Most hobby store's dont accept "Bootleg" Greatful Dead tape's as payment.

( I also had to "Occasionally" buy food.)

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 17, 2018 8:52 PM

CapnMac82
My brother was a bit peeved as 20 July 1969 was his fifth birthday.

Don't bother me boy. I'm watching the moon landing!

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 17, 2018 8:48 PM

littletimmy

From 1992 , untill 1997, I worked fo a chain of movie theatere's.

I was the Janitor /ticket seller/ ticket taker / projectionist/ connsession salesman / manager, and eventually General manager of 5 of the 9 theatere's they owned.

CapnMac 82, after reading your post ...... I feel your "pain" !

 

 

Well I'll be. Another story told. And we'd never known that you two had that in common. To be honest ... I thought Timmy chased the Grateful Dead full-time! Timmy! You worked? 

Wink

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 17, 2018 8:38 PM

Hey Capn, what a great story. I enjoyed reading that history in your life, and I enjoyed reading about the technology involved to project films. Awesome! It sounds like a fun time for you. The exception being some of the stinker movies that you had to watch, all the way through. That would be shear torture. If I don't like a movie, I leave. Been there...done that. 

And this is why I like to tell my stories. It's not that I want to talk about myself. No. I do it in the hope that others will share theirs. We all have em. We all have interesting journeys in life. Why not share them. What would be cool is if this forum had a section called, Tell us your story. It would be a place that we could share our stories. I think that would be neat.

Anyway. Thanks for sharing that!

 

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, June 17, 2018 8:17 PM

From 1992 , untill 1997, I worked fo a chain of movie theatere's.

I was the Janitor /ticket seller/ ticket taker / projectionist/ connsession salesman / manager, and eventually General manager of 5 of the 9 theatere's they owned.

CapnMac 82, after reading your post ...... I feel your "pain" !

 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, June 17, 2018 4:52 PM

Bakster
hope you got free tickets

My grandfather and all four of his brothers were in the biz, as had their father before them.

My GGF had built and operated the movie theater in Ada, OK years before.

One Uncle was in the distribution bisiness.  Another supplied popcorn for the region from SF to Vancouver, east to Idaho, and all of Nevada.  His cadillac proclaimed hin the "Popcorn Kolernel."  The youngest of the brothers was the movie maven of Coos Bay, OR.

So, I pretty much could wander into a number of theaters at will.  Also spent more than a fair share of unpaid time serving concessions or taking tickets (even sold some tickets, too).

Even had a pretty good p/t gig with UA screening films.  They way that worked is that the distributor would have films available.  A theater--or in the big cities, a chain--woiuld rent copies of the films, which they would then show.  Part of that rental included looping in certain trailers and the like. 

UA was concerned at the time (probably still is) that their films would be screened to certain standards.  So, I'd get a list every two weeks of all the UA films available.  I'd pick one, and a theater, and go buy a ticket.  I had to note which trailers were spliced in.  I'd also have to note how wel lthe film was masked (were bits cut off, or shown on the surround, and the like).  Also the sound quality and volume, how well the reels were synced, and how beat up the print was. 

This latter was a pretty big deal when theaters went to "platten" projectors.  All the reels were spliced together on a 6-7' platten around a central spindle, then fed off through the projector(s) and back to the central spindle again (much like how an 8-track tabe works).  This necessitated a bunch of rollers over which the film ran.  If the rolers picked up grit, it scratched the print.

If not using a platten, you needed two projectors.  You loaded one real on one projector, then the next on the other.  The projectioonist had to watch near the end of the first reel for a circle to appear at (typically) the top right of the screen).  This was the cue to start the other projector and sync it to the first.  There would be another dot/circle to show the cut off of the first projector.  Projectionist then had to spool the first reall off its take up reel and onto a projection reel (for the really old projectors).  Then, the next reel could be loaded up.  Rinse and repeat.

Xenon lamps replaced carbon arc lamps which made the projectors safer and easier (no having to mind the carbon rods).  Plattens replaced separate reels.  (Which meant a projectionist could be replaced with a multiplex manager who just had an on/off switch.  Which was later automated to link with House lights and the like.

Now, films are all on digital platters, so reels are a ting of the past, too. 

Anywho, while an interesting gig (they reimbursed for the ticket and mileage to the theater, and a price per view) it alos meant I had to sit through some stinkers of films.  So, yeah, the Dino De Laurentis Dune was interesting, Midsummer's Night's Dream, maybe not so much.  Cat People was good, but I was never quite so happy to be at a 1500 matinee and walk out into bright sunshine as after that.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, June 17, 2018 4:17 PM

Ah, the Moon Landing.

Pretty riviting for a space-addicted 9 y/o.

My brother was a bit peeved as 20 July 1969 was his fifth birthday.

We were in Plainview, and we all gathered in the Family room, as that was where the color tv was (the fanciy cabinet (but B&W) tv was also on).  An Aunt, two Uncles, and a neighbor were all in the house, too.  Pretty big doings in a town of about 16,000 folks.

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, June 16, 2018 11:15 PM

BTW Capn. How cool to have a movie mogul in the family. I hope you got free tickets.

 

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