CapnMac82

Is rather flagrantly bassed on the Odyssey, just set to bluegrass and with characters with feet of clay.

Exactly.

CapnMac82

To quote Dan Tyminski, (who voiced Clooney's singing) "I would have never imagined that [bluegrass] would be used for teaching Greek literature, not in a million years."

CapnMac82

Now, setting a near-gospel dirdge from 1/8 time to 120bpm was going to sell pretty good, no matter what.

Amen to that. I love this movie largely because of the music. In fact--I purchased the soundtrack. That said, the movie is funny, lighthearted, quirky, and beautifully edited. I think it was on the special features where they say the film was painstakingly sepia toned, frame by frame. That color treatment adds to mood of the film. The characters  are a hoot, and though I am not a fan of Clooney, he is masterful in his role.

Capn--you may be surprised to learn that I AM A MAN OF CONSTANT SORROW

But you know... I do try to KEEP ON THE SUNNY SIDE

When storms roll in, I go DOWN IN THE RIVER TO PRAY

Day turns to months and months to years--my light grows dim, then I'LL FLY AWAY

CapnMac82

And the original movie is on, right now, on TCM

 

Seen that in the menu. Recorded it  Lol.

And the original movie is on, right now, on TCM

Bakster

O Brother Where Art Thou

Is rather flagrantly bassed on the Odyssey, just set to bluegrass and with characters with feet of clay.

To quote Dan Tyminski, (who voiced Clooney's singing) "I would have never imagined that [bluegrass] would be used for teaching Greek literature, not in a million years."

Now, setting a near-gospel dirdge from 1/8 time to 120bpm was going to sell pretty good, no matter what.

Greg

In the meantime, I thought I was the only little kid in the world that had his pants scared off by some of those scary movies. Thanks for letting me know wasn't just me, guys!

The puppet character (from The Corbomite Manouver) used in the trailer to the original series used to spook e silly.  But, then again, it was meant to, too.

You are spot-on about No Way Out, Capn. I have a personality quirk that caused me to overreact to that movies ending.

In the meantime, I thought I was the only little kid in the world that had his pants scared off by some of those scary movies. Thanks for letting me know wasn't just me, guys!

CapnMac82

He had to sign his marketing rights away on the first movie to get it funded.  He did not make that mistake again.

CapnMac82

Small world:  My grandfather wass in on some financial deal with Bill Lear, so we would get samples of some of the cool tech (if never a P-16 of LJ-23).  Among those was this endless-looped 1/4" tape cassettes and player doohicky woth 4 tracks on one side and 4 on the other.

CapnMac82

No Way Out is meant to describe the conundrum of the deeply-placed mole; you had to be utterly submerged in the local culture and society, totally assimilated, yet utterly connected to an external allegiance of some sort.  Once you are neck deep in, there litterall is no way out.  If discovered you will be a traitor to either one side or the other; and eternally accused or suspected of being a duble or triple agent, and to no one entity's satisfaction, to boot.  It's an ultimate situation defined by its moral ambiguity.  In that way, the movie is a masterpiece, and that "disapointment" at the end of no clear cut end is very deliberate.  Good, if not quite as good as the way the Coen brothers achieve that same end.  But, that's my 2¢ on it.

I enjoyed your 2 cents. Now, I need to rent and watch this again.  

You mentioned Coen brothers. Probably my favorites are Fargo, O Brother Where Art Thou, and No Country for Old Men. I love the quirkiness of their movies. In the case of OBWAT, I even love the old time music.

Bakster

Interesting and not surprising Lucas would jump on that.

He had to sign his marketing rights away on the first movie to get it funded.  He did not make that mistake again.

Small world:  My grandfather wass in on some financial deal with Bill Lear, so we would get samples of some of the cool tech (if never a P-16 of LJ-23).  Among those was this endless-looped 1/4" tape cassettes and player doohicky woth 4 tracks on one side and 4 on the other.

No Way Out is meant to describe the conundrum of the deeply-placed mole; you had to be utterly submerged in the local culture and society, totally assimilated, yet utterly connected to an external allegiance of some sort.  Once you are neck deep in, there litterall is no way out.  If discovered you will be a traitor to either one side or the other; and eternally accused or suspected of being a duble or triple agent, and to no one entity's satisfaction, to boot.  It's an ultimate situation defined by its moral ambiguity.  In that way, the movie is a masterpiece, and that "disapointment" at the end of no clear cut end is very deliberate.  Good, if not quite as good as the way the Coen brothers achieve that same end.  But, that's my 2¢ on it.

Gamera

Yeah, I think someone wrote that it was the mass merchandising campaign of PotA that gave George Lucas the idea to merchandise the outta Star Wars. Although the PotA stuff isn't anywhere near as well documented as the SW stuff. I'd love to see a list of all the weird stuff that was pr

Interesting and not surprising Lucas would jump on that.

I agree about the PotA mechandise list. I think it would be immense. Heck, to this day there are companies still producing mechandise for the original movie series.

Bakster

 

 

Gamera

Oh and btw it would also make room for a nice display case to show off all your cool 'PotA' collectables! 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey Cliff, that is pretty cool. Some of the stuff I have never seen before. Like super 8 films of the movies. The guy says he views them. Lol. He is a true fan. I really like that stallion and soldier model. That could make a nice display piece if built well. It's truly amazing how much memorabilia was produced for POTA.  

 

 

Yeah, I think someone wrote that it was the mass merchandising campaign of PotA that gave George Lucas the idea to merchandise the outta Star Wars. Although the PotA stuff isn't anywhere near as well documented as the SW stuff. I'd love to see a list of all the weird stuff that was produced.

Gamera

Just funny to me that as 5 year and 15 year old something would scare the krap outta me and as a 40 year old I found the same thing so funny I think I'd call it a comedy!  

I have not seen that movie but that is a hoot! Similarly, as a kid I was enthralled with the first POTA movie. Now, I laugh at some stuff.

Gamera

Oh and btw it would also make room for a nice display case to show off all your cool 'PotA' collectables! 

 

 

Oh and btw it would also make room for a nice display case to show off all your cool 'PotA' collectables! 

Yeah the flying monkeys creeped me out as a kid. Also the Yeti monster from the stop-motion Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer film gave me nightmares (yes I was a weird kid). 

And the 1979 'The Prophecy' - the mutant bear film, not the one with Chris Walken as the archangel Gabriel. The TV ads gave me nightmares as a kid. Then I watched the darn thing for some crazy reason or the other about ten years later. It gave me nightmares again. Then I watched it again about ten years ago and laughed my @#$ off.

It's a horror movie all right, not as inducing horror but the production values were horrible. Robert Foxworth, whom I like in some things so wildly over-acted I was afraid he'd have a heart attack. And the mutant bear is so friggin' fake my only fear was I'd hurt myself I was laughing so hard. I swear in one scene there's a guy in the costume standing still and waving the arms around while stage-hands run past it with pine branches to try to give the impression it's charging though the woods.

Just funny to me that as 5 year and 15 year old something would scare the krap outta me and as a 40 year old I found the same thing so funny I think I'd call it a comedy!  

Oh and Greg, there are two other scenes in the original Fly movie that were insane. When he tested the transporter on his house cat and it became trapped in inner space, you could hear it meowing. Then when his wife crushed Hedison in the press. That movie had a lot of creep to it. Lol

Greg

Steve, I just thought of another thing about the movie. For some reason, movies and books where our hero or heroes is/are completely screwed at the end used to make me crazy. They are still not my favorites, but I can deal with them now. The best example I can think of was No Way Out with Costner. That had my head spinning for days, and I still think of it from time to time.

I don’t remember much about No Way Out but I know we went to see it.

I thought of another movie that creeped me out as a kid, The Incredible Shrinking Man. Wow... that was creepy. The guy shrinks so small that he is chased by spiders and even the house cat went after him. And true to life, their cat was relentless. It’s funny because I have often thought how my cat loves me, but shrink me down, I‘ll be nothing but a toy, a bug to chase. Lol

danburnsart

Me too.kind of Greg. The wicked witch and the freakish flying monkeys I think. The Elephant Man was another one that terrified me. The model is looking tremendous Bakster!

 

Hey Dan, good point about the flying monkeys! Those were freakish! I forgot about those until you mentioned it. Lol about the Elephant Man.

Thanks about the model sir.

Hey Capn, that is possible. I am not that familiar with the version used in the second movie. I did some screen caps yesterday from the 1st movie and sure enough the seats are angled in.

That is a hoot about adding 8 track quadraphonic tapes. They were pretty cool for the time and it would certainly help with the long journey! Lol

Hey Greg, now that you mention it I think that is what you said, you didn’t care for it. That is funny about Wizard of Oz because yeah, that witch was scary. I felt the same way. 

I remember you saying the Fly creeped you out too, I think the ending. Help me! Help me!

That WAS creepy too.

danburnsart

Me too.kind of Greg. The wicked witch and the freakish flying monkeys I think. The Elephant Man was another one that terrified me.

Thanks, glad it wasn't just me. Yep, the witch ....but those monkeys were the deal-killer I think.

And back to the real world, a spaceship with a quad 8-track. Now there's a great idea.

Steve, I just thought of another thing about the movie. For some reason, movies and books where our hero or heroes is/are completely screwed at the end used to make me crazy. They are still not my favorites, but I can deal with them now.

The best example I can think of was No Way Out with Costner. That had my head spinning for days, and I still think of it from time to time.

Bakster

Here is something I never noticed before. The rear seats are fixed to face each other. Apparently, this was done for lack of legroom. No wonder they opted for a deep freeze. Who'd want to stare at the other guy for months on end.

Hey Cornelius and Zaius, the rear seats will be your seating assignment. 

 

 

Ok, now I'm having this nagging memory fro mthe second movie that all the seats were aligned.  Which makes me wonder if they were just being lazy in the props department, or if that was a continuity glitch.

Mind, if they took out the two freezers, they have room for a hip quadraphonic stereo with those new-fangled 8-track tapes

Bakster

Hey, I think you once said you had not seen the movie. Is that true? Or am I imagining?

I don't think it was me, but it is possible I might have mentioned that it isn't my favorite. I don't quite know why. Maybe the theme was a bit dark for me as a kid or something that.

I also might have said I don't remember ever having watched the whole movie, start to finish, in one sitting.

Wizard of Oz scared the living you know what out of me too, weird kid, me.

Wow, I just noticed the page 1 ghoulish picture in my post. Not sure how I managed that but it was not intended, I removed it. 

Yeah that is a pretty good article. The second link has a ton reference material to the movie and other, so for any fans of the movie, it is worth a look.

That is very true about being model neurotic. On this build I am not planning too much interior detail, but we shall see. Sometimes things get to clicking and I keep running with it. 

Glad you enjoyed it, Greg! Thanks for the comments and for following!

Hey, I think you once said you had not seen the movie. Is that true? Or am I imagining?

Thanks for the repeat info for lazy me.

You get a gold star for your research efforts.

The article in the first link is truly interesting. So the author actually interviewed the prop designer and from set sketches and movie stills, created his own interior drawings. Very cool.

Reading the article got me to thinking about how neurotic we can be in this hobby, for example going to painstaking extents to recreate something as perfectly as possible, that never existed to begin with. Think about it.......

Another random thought was good thing whomever drew those original prop sketches wasn't really a draftsman or architect. The block printing is almost illegible, they'd never make it past level 101.

That was a fun read, thanks again.

Greg

Where did you find this drawing? (This might have been mentioned before, but there are lots of pages to review here)

 

Hey Greg--you are correct on both accounts. It was posted and pretty much good luck finding it. I am happy to repost for you; you asked and ye shall receive.

You can find the info on the first link below. Don't let the first image scare ya, there is some really good info there. The second link is to the home page where a person can find all kinds of Pota fun stuff.

https://pota.goatley.com/magazines/scififantasy-38.pdf

https://pota.goatley.com/

Where did you find this drawing? (This might have been mentioned before, but there are lots of pages to review here)

Here is something I never noticed before. The rear seats are fixed to face each other. Apparently, this was done for lack of legroom. No wonder they opted for a deep freeze. Who'd want to stare at the other guy for months on end.

Hey Cornelius and Zaius, the rear seats will be your seating assignment. 

Greg

Those seats look great, Steve. They really do.

This is a fun thread, I wonder when I lost track of it?

 

Hey Greg, good to hear from you. You might have missed this thread because it became dormant for a bit.

Thanks about the seats, and yeah, having fun is always part of my goal! I say, why go through life with a sour puss when you can go through life smiling. The Apes like to be all serious and stuff, but they are learning. Just look at my mascot, he is having a good old time. Lol.

With holiday time off from work I hope to make a little progress on the interior. This is building from scratch, so pushing through to the next step takes more planning. At some point I just need to jump into it and start. Hence where the time off will help. 

“Just look at my mascot, he is having a good old time”

Hear, hear!

lmao.

Those seats look great, Steve. They really do.

This is a fun thread, I wonder when I lost track of it?