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I must be nuts but I thought I might try this:
I have a 1/350th scale Yamato. I originally considered turning it into the Starblazers ship. After consulting with someone who is quite knowledgeable abouit these shows I decided to scale up the design would be too much work for me. Sometime later I came up with plan "B". Since the I.J.N. had a tendency to convert various warchips into hybrids that were part carrier, and the U.S. considered doing this to a Iowa class ship, why not do something similar here? Since there would be a required change due to a mission, this ship would only have to be similar to the space battleship. It wouldn't need that monster weapon in the bow, maybe a couple of large energy weapons, ome on each side. A smaller opening in the bow coiuld house asensor or wepons tracking and targeting system. The rear area could be a hanger deck with launch areas for shuttles, fighters, and other small craft.
A lot more changes would have to be done, but I'm starting to do sketches and then do them over again. I must be crazy.
You have a "Sickness"..... there is NO cure.
I'm afraid your going to have to build it.....
( it's your only hope of surviving the deadly virus known as "Plasticserosis")
I will "prescribe" you a year's supply of Gluemotoron pill's.
Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"
Hi,
That sound like it could make for a fun build. And since you aren't trying to replicate a specific vessel it can give you alot of freedom in trying different things.
Pat
jsut settelin' in for a good time ahead.
Steve
Building the perfect model---just not quite yet
They called me crazy at the institute.
You don't think I'm crazy......do you?
Crazy would be taking the model of the Akagi and doing the same thing....Nah. Besides there's always the Bismark.
So basically Space Hybrid Ise???
Sounds like a cool idea to me! Please post photos or her when done. Actually in progress ones would be cool too!
"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen
Color me intrigued.Something cool about replacing the main arament with clear rods in metal tubing, ramp up to around 50cm in scale . . . Rail guns with square tubes for secondaries . . . Nifty multiple rocket launchers . . . Yeah, would be cool.
Hmmm, wondering, now, which would be more work: 1/350 Space Fighters; or 1/350 Mecha? Or, just go full Gundam?
Hmm, just a thought--in space you don't much need a flight deck for flying and landing. A simple articulated arm to "catch" (or put overboard to launch) would suffice. So, the flat deck surface would be more for 'parking' as it were.
littletimmythere is NO cure.
Like Tim said, no cure. Break out the plastic and get started. If you do it as a W.I.P., we'll be watching.
I'm still working up possible drwings for this and probably will start soon after I finish a couple M-151 Air Force Security Police jeeps for our club's Vietnam display at this years Modelpaloosa contest in September.
The retriever arm is not something I had considered, it could be used for emergency recoveries. Deffinately will think about that one. I was planning on a in progress build, but it might take some time. I'll keep you posted.
Hey !
You have your prescription . Now start the therapy ! Build It ! T.B.
CapnMac82 .. Hmm, just a thought--in space you don't much need a flight deck for flying and landing. A simple articulated arm to "catch" (or put overboard to launch) would suffice. So, the flat deck surface would be more for 'parking' as it were.
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Maybe something like this?
ikar01 ...Since the I.J.N. had a tendency to convert various warchips into hybrids that were part carrier, and the U.S. considered doing this to a Iowa class ship...
...Since the I.J.N. had a tendency to convert various warchips into hybrids that were part carrier, and the U.S. considered doing this to a Iowa class ship...
Do you mean the proposed plan for the Kentucky? Have you ever seen any drawings from that proposal? I just learned about that idea last week, and I thought it might be fun to try with one of my 1/1200 Iowa kits. But I haven't yet found any drawings, or any more details about what the converted ship would look like. I suspect, given where construction was on the Kentucky at the time, that she would have looked like an Essex, basically a conversion like the Lexingtons were. But if there are any drawings anywhere, it'd be interesting to see them.
The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.
At first when I heard of the arm idea I thought one arm that might rotate over the top half of the hull. With the two arm concept you could have them retract and lay against the hull when not needed. This should be considered. I just don't want them to stand out too much until they are needed.
Where can I get some in scale fighters and/or utility craft that look lith they belong with the story line??
I have never hear dof the Kentucky proposal. I have seen some drawings of the three different conversions suggested for the Iowa class and am leaning toward something with the flat deck but in line with the restof the hull and maybe launching the fighters out the sides through the gap on each side just under the main deck.
PFJNMaybe something like this? Hook Add Quote to your Post
Exactly like, actually.
I remember the concept being advanced that freighters could have all-weather VTOL jets for protection at sea during wartime using a fly-up-and-grab system.
Nothing came of it.In space, would be even easier to do, as the Shuttle and ISS arms have demonstrated.
the BaronDo you mean the proposed plan for the Kentucky?
Not sure that got much beyond jawing about.
I do remember seeing some middling detailed drawings for converting Iowas by pulling the aft turret and giving them an Ise flight deck for Harriers. As I remember, the structural changes to remove the after barbette to make hangar space were just too complicated (and no one really wanted to Ise any of the Iowas).
ikar01 flat deck but in line with the restof the hull and maybe launching the fighters out the sides through the gap on each side just under the main deck.
Which would be cool.
Hmm, it's space, you are not committed to any fixed up/down, left/right at all. You could sweep the flying off surfaces from the stern up and over to be flat against the hull sides (which would be one Disney of a catapault launch).
Oh, and I'm still picturing landing struts on Yamato--something B-52ish with, say, three big (like 2cm square) centerline struts and a pair or two of skinny outriggers.
Oh, and a Forbidden Planet drop-down telescopic circular elevator or two to reach the surface.Yeah, I've got too many ideas and only 2¢ to spend
Fortunately I didn't spend much on this kit. For about 30.00 I got a complete kit, with a motor, and another box with a lot of left over parts. I sometimes wonder what happened to the rest of the kit since the main turrets, superstructure, hull, and deck are gone. I have plenty of spare parts to work with considering the Akagi's 37 sets of sprue left several full sets left over from the battlecruiser version. Add that to the large amount of things I have collected over the years from kits and just by noticing things in packaging and so on, I'll most likely find what I need for this project.
Even though the jeeps aren't finished yet I decided to try a few early starting arear. I just cut a new forward deck and fitted it to the hull, the center section is next. I'm just taping things into place for now because I may have to do some modifiations to the bow. Even though it won't have the main gun of the battleship, I was thinging about some sort of sensor array or a very enengy cannon under the deck level or lined up on the forwqard deck nd having it fire through the round opening in the bow plates, then have the plating form a cover over most of the weapon and the spray shield in front of the first turret would be modified to shield a small turret on each side that would have a limited field of fire as they shot through the shield or also possibly above it.
I need to get some film and document this.
I started with the sheet plastic to determine the new metal deck, cut two panels and taped them into place. Next I found something to use for this ship's different engine and cut the stern off. I fetted the engine housing in and have started to modify the back deck section to accomidate it. I cut off some of the rudder parts that aren't needed and was starting to do some more of this when my faithful Dreme died. Hoping this is not a sign of a oncomming curse, I went to harbour freight and bought a new generis drill that takes al the same collets and other necessary items I have at hand. I've started to fit the top of the engine housing to the raised rear section of the hanger deck. We'll see how this works out.
Finally some progress. I don't know which is harder, doing the modifications to this kit or learning how to use a new camera.
Althugh it's hard to make out in this shot, the deck hs been replaced and the shielding around the forward turrets is underconstruction. The superstructure is undergoing some changes defore being set intoits final location. It will have two tiers of defensive turrets along teh side with a few other turrets of at least one other type added later. The hanger deck will have doors added soon and the engine area will need to be covered, refined, and finalized. The sides of the hull are being modified to get rid of all the detail and curved of the original battleship. Instead of the monster cannon the first ship had the assault type will carry a heavy laser in the bow. It will provide a good olid hit to its target but not drain the ship's energy for a period like the wave motion cannon did, and provide more interior room .
Althugh it's hard to make out in this shot, the deck hs been replaced and the shielding around the forward turrets is underconstruction. The superstructure is undergoing some changes defore being set intoits final location. It will have two tiers of defensive turrets along teh side with a few other turrets of at least one other type added later.
The hanger deck will have doors added soon and the engine area will need to be covered, refined, and finalized.
The sides of the hull are being modified to get rid of all the detail and curved of the original battleship.
Instead of the monster cannon the first ship had the assault type will carry a heavy laser in the bow. It will provide a good olid hit to its target but not drain the ship's energy for a period like the wave motion cannon did, and provide more interior room .
Your conversion is fascinating! Though a full 1/350 Space Battleship Yamato would've been cool too, I suspect this will be less work.
I didn't know there were plans to convert Kentucky - that poor ship was doomed by timing just as the Illinois and Montana were. At least a piece of Kentucky lives on as the bow of Wisconsin. I haven't seen pictures either - but I suspect a carrier built on Kentucky's hull would be more like the Midways than the Essexes.
Looks cool! Great to see you moving forward on this!
It was the original idea but after looking at the original design, this was a more viable idea.
Now that Modelpalooza is over until next October, at a new location, it's back to work. Here's a update:
The main bow weapon has been reduced to a very heavy laser The main superstructure is undergoing some mods, the heave shielding for the forward turrets are in place and the different engine is being installed. Both sides of the ship will have a few different types of weapons for various ranges and sensors and targeting systems. I'm think I'll call it the Musashi class Space Attack Ship Toronaga.
The main bow weapon has been reduced to a very heavy laser
The main superstructure is undergoing some mods, the heave shielding for the forward turrets are in place and the different engine is being installed. Both sides of the ship will have a few different types of weapons for various ranges and sensors and targeting systems. I'm think I'll call it the Musashi class Space Attack Ship Toronaga.
The main superstructure is undergoing some mods, the heave shielding for the forward turrets are in place and the different engine is being installed.
Both sides of the ship will have a few different types of weapons for various ranges and sensors and targeting systems. I'm think I'll call it the Musashi class Space Attack Ship Toronaga.
Both sides of the ship will have a few different types of weapons for various ranges and sensors and targeting systems.
I'm think I'll call it the Musashi class Space Attack Ship Toronaga.
ikari01,
Do you have sketches of what you are aiming for?
I have used 1/700 IJN photo etch on a 1/1000 Space Battleship Yamato before, and it woked out really well.
I also have a kitbash project I have been toying with to bash a full IJN kit with a Space Battleship Yamato kit. The idea is to use all the guns and bridge from the IJN and bash them on the Space version. The difficulty, which might be relevant to you, is that the IJN deck is much wider than the sleeker Space Battleship. Therefore, there is not enough space for a lot of the IJN guns, especially the AA guns.
Ohhhhhh cool!!! She's coming along great!
I originally wanted to do that, but we decided that there were too many differences to overcome. It is easier just to create a new class warship that was compatablewith the series. This one whas a different layout and different weapons arrangement. The bridge now is bounded and will have an exterior protective framework and more sensors mounted on the pagoda superstructure. There will be a large missile launcher on each side as well as some smaller defensive weapons sounted in various places. It will also have a set of two sensor/targeting dishes that extend from the bottom of the hull from protective housings. I'm waiting for somw radar arrays to come in to mount on the pylons at the top of the superstructure.
more to come
Believe it or not, I have been able to get some things done betwen work and fighting with the V.A.
These are teh latest shots from no new camerathat I am still trying to learn to operate:
As you can see, progress is being made. More detail is being aded to the main superstructure, the tracks for the smaller weapon turrets has been added that will allow earh individual turret to move toward the outer hull and return to the main part of the pagoda superstructure base.I still have a lot more forming, sanding. fillingand a heck of detail to do. I find that I have been using a quantity of left over P.E. and warship parts. If anybody has any leftover parts they don't need I would be willing to buy them from you. If they don't get on this ship I already have another type in mind that I will be needing supplies for. The carrier Akagi and Mogaim cruiser/carrier have donated many parts and I have made several orders to Freetime Hobbies for gun barrels and other P.E. parts I needed.
As you can see, progress is being made. More detail is being aded to the main superstructure, the tracks for the smaller weapon turrets has been added that will allow earh individual turret to move toward the outer hull and return to the main part of the pagoda superstructure base.I still have a lot more forming, sanding. fillingand a heck of detail to do. I find that I have been using a quantity of left over P.E. and warship parts.
If anybody has any leftover parts they don't need I would be willing to buy them from you. If they don't get on this ship I already have another type in mind that I will be needing supplies for. The carrier Akagi and Mogaim cruiser/carrier have donated many parts and I have made several orders to Freetime Hobbies for gun barrels and other P.E. parts I needed.
Oh really cool! Great to see you still at work on this Ikar!
She's going be an attention getter when you're done.
After this is finally done I have an idea for another class ship with a Battleship once again as the base hull.
Here's a new update.
The bay doors to the parking and maint. area. There are two access doors, one on each side of the patch and another , smaller door on each side of the extended area. The upper access area to the main engine. Some of the defensive weapons. .On the top row are the quad pulse guns, one step below then are the smaller turret guns that slide into position on their rail system. . Under the ship, instead of having a permanent structure suspended under the, this class ship has two sensor units that can lower into position when needed. They are protected by a armored shield. A few changes made the bridge into a new class with a more open bridge view, thanks to a aircraft canopy. The top of the superstructure is from a Macross Valkyrie and radars will be added to the ends and top of the tubes just before painting. Some access hatches were added for maint. work and the tracks for the outer gun are more visable at the moment.
The bay doors to the parking and maint. area. There are two access doors, one on each side of the patch and another , smaller door on each side of the extended area.
The upper access area to the main engine. Some of the defensive weapons. .On the top row are the quad pulse guns, one step below then are the smaller turret guns that slide into position on their rail system. . Under the ship, instead of having a permanent structure suspended under the, this class ship has two sensor units that can lower into position when needed. They are protected by a armored shield. A few changes made the bridge into a new class with a more open bridge view, thanks to a aircraft canopy. The top of the superstructure is from a Macross Valkyrie and radars will be added to the ends and top of the tubes just before painting. Some access hatches were added for maint. work and the tracks for the outer gun are more visable at the moment.
The upper access area to the main engine.
Some of the defensive weapons. .On the top row are the quad pulse guns, one step below then are the smaller turret guns that slide into position on their rail system. . Under the ship, instead of having a permanent structure suspended under the, this class ship has two sensor units that can lower into position when needed. They are protected by a armored shield. A few changes made the bridge into a new class with a more open bridge view, thanks to a aircraft canopy. The top of the superstructure is from a Macross Valkyrie and radars will be added to the ends and top of the tubes just before painting. Some access hatches were added for maint. work and the tracks for the outer gun are more visable at the moment.
Some of the defensive weapons.
.On the top row are the quad pulse guns, one step below then are the smaller turret guns that slide into position on their rail system.
. Under the ship, instead of having a permanent structure suspended under the, this class ship has two sensor units that can lower into position when needed. They are protected by a armored shield. A few changes made the bridge into a new class with a more open bridge view, thanks to a aircraft canopy. The top of the superstructure is from a Macross Valkyrie and radars will be added to the ends and top of the tubes just before painting. Some access hatches were added for maint. work and the tracks for the outer gun are more visable at the moment.
Under the ship, instead of having a permanent structure suspended under the, this class ship has two sensor units that can lower into position when needed. They are protected by a armored shield.
A few changes made the bridge into a new class with a more open bridge view, thanks to a aircraft canopy. The top of the superstructure is from a Macross Valkyrie and radars will be added to the ends and top of the tubes just before painting. Some access hatches were added for maint. work and the tracks for the outer gun are more visable at the moment.
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