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Enterprise: Mirror Defiant
Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 4:19 PM
(i'm sure guys may have al ready discussed this subject but here goes anyway...)

Was teh Defiant freakin' cool wor what?!!!
I have never seen a TOS Constitution Class look so cool! I think the rear photorp launches were a bit of a stretch but I don't care it was too cool! They didn't chang thing on the bridge an it still looked cool!
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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 4:37 PM
That it was laddie boy, that it was.

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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 4:49 PM
What makes it so bad is I just picked up a PL TOS enterprised adn was going to make a mirror Enterpise. Scratch that I'm bulding a mirror Defiant! (not sure if I will put Imperial emblems on it though.)Shy [8)]
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Posted by grandadjohn on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 6:45 PM
I don't remember, but in the original series what happened to the Defiant?
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Posted by Foster7155 on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 8:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by grandadjohn

I don't remember, but in the original series what happened to the Defiant?


According to its logs, the first recorded crew mutiny took part on the USS Defiant NCC-1764 on Stardate 5693. After going missing with all hands the ship was found dead in space near the Tholian border, where it was pulled into a spatial interphase - a realm between different planes of spatial coherence.

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Posted by grandadjohn on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 8:47 PM
Thanks
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Posted by djrost_2000 on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 11:56 PM
I just saw the end of that episode several days ago. To see an TOS Constitution Class starship bridge on a modern show was something else! Perhaps their' continuity department isn't that bad after allCool [8D]

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Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, May 7, 2005 8:00 AM
Dammit Jim, I missed part 2, can anyone send a video of it??
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 7, 2005 7:37 PM
Hello all

Sorry Midnightprowler. I just checked my tape and Enterprise already has Weds. Lost copied over it. Sad [:(]

Not only was the Defiant AMAZING to see, but I was thrilled to fianlly get ride of that cornball opening music. Why couldn't they have done this last season, instead of chasing Xindi through time portals in alernate dimensions..... Maybe then they woudl still have a show.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 7, 2005 8:25 PM
I thought the same thing while watching the 2-parter. Why didn't they do this sooner. 'course we're talking about B&B. I think they both lost a few tiles on re-entry........
And shame on anybody that keeps re-hiring them.

I'd like a copy of both parts of that episode too, if anyone can.
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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Sunday, May 15, 2005 12:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MartianGundamModeler

(i'm sure guys may have al ready discussed this subject but here goes anyway...)
Was teh Defiant freakin' cool wor what?!!!


Heck yea! Rob did a great job on that beauty!!

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Posted by Prince of Styrene II on Sunday, May 15, 2005 12:59 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by midnightprowler

Dammit Jim, I missed part 2, can anyone send a video of it??

I have a copy of it. Shoot me an e-mail & we'll talk.

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Monday, May 16, 2005 6:53 AM
Well I just downloaded both episodes, and I converted them over to DVD.. Just watched them on my DVD player and believe me when I say that The Defiant looked sweet!!!!.. I have never been a big fan of the TOS Constitution class, but I guess thats because I have only seen it in a 1960's tv show.. But to see it done with todays technology, and to see it fly like a real ship (unlike TOS) it was simply a different perspective!..Now all they need to do, it digitally remaster all of the TOS episodes and bring them up to todays standards, and replace the old crap model enterprise flying scenes, and replace them with cgi.... The Defiant scenes proved what a majestic ship the Constitution class really was.. When I think of the old tv show, it looks stale and clumsy!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 6:45 PM
[ The Defiant scenes proved what a majestic ship the Constitution class really was.. When I think of the old tv show, it looks stale and clumsy!

Did you see the pictures in the magazine of the model used in TOS? It is currently hanging in the Smithsonian museum in Washinton DC. It was quite large and they only filmed it from the right side due to the cables for the lighting.

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Posted by stipp on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 5:30 AM
I missed both parts 1&2 Banged Head [banghead]Boohoo [BH]Banged Head [banghead]Boohoo [BH]Banged Head [banghead]Banged Head [banghead]
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Posted by r13b20 on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:34 PM
Can someone post a pic of this ship? Thanks.
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Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:57 AM
They built a model for that episode, it wasn'r computer generated.
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Posted by Griffworks on Saturday, May 21, 2005 4:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by roadrunner
Did you see the pictures in the magazine of the model used in TOS? It is currently hanging in the Smithsonian museum in Washinton DC. It was quite large and they only filmed it from the right side due to the cables for the lighting.

The TOS Filming Miniature Enterprise was indeed quite large (11ft), but what makes it "zoom" is the actual cinematogrophy process. The size of the model wouldn't matter for all those movement shots, as the camera is what generally does the movement when the filming of the miniatures is generally concerned, whether for television of movies. So, they could have had Enterprise move like that in TOS, but it would have required a larger budget for those types of shots. We did get similar shots on occasion, tho. Just look at a lot of the opening title sequences. Plus, a lot of the starship scenes are closeups of the ship. You won't notice a lot of movement of a ship when you're right on it, as if you were only 20m from the hull!


QUOTE: Originally posted by midnightprowler

They built a model for that episode, it wasn'r computer generated.
Lee

If you're referring to "Through a Mirror, Darkly", the Defiant shown there was all CGI. In fact, we've only seen CGI ships since the very first episode of ENT.

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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Monday, May 23, 2005 4:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AusLexusJapan

Now all they need to do, it digitally remaster all of the TOS episodes and bring them up to todays standards, and replace the old crap model enterprise flying scenes, and replace them with cgi.... The Defiant scenes proved what a majestic ship the Constitution class really was.. When I think of the old tv show, it looks stale and clumsy!

Chris in Japan


Now THAT is freakin BRILLIANT! Imagine episodes like the Ultimate Computer or Doomsday Machine with new effects! The M-5 equiped enterprise laying the "smack down" on all those other Constitution class ships. Or scene actually depicting the battle between the Constilation and the Domms Day machine! Or the Enterprise and the Romulan bird of Prey in Balance of Terror. It would be so cool to see the original bird of prey "swooping" through space using digital effects. Man i could go on and on! Shy [8)]
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:38 PM
The Defiant was Hot!! I thought the "Empire markings" on Enterprise were Kewl Looking. Any chance someone will come out with decals for the 1:350 NX-01??
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:26 PM
I'm willing to bet that somebody over at Federation Models is printing them out as we speak! i wasn't too fond of the "lightening bolts" or "scrambled eggs" that were on the hull but considering that the vessel has vertually no profile to speak of what can ya do?

["scrambled eggs"- naval nick name for gold leaf design worn on officer's hats. My stepfather was in the Navy in the 'Nam era so that's where I got the term from.lol]
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:54 PM
Kewl! I thought the markings added some "Pizzazz" to the hull. I'd be interested in ordering a set of 'em.
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