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PL Refit, Advice needed *UPDATE*

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Posted by Guido1081 on Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:18 PM

Guess I am stuck on one thing Parafilm, never gave me issues ever only took about 1 inch worth of the material to learn how to use it.It sticks to plastic and resin. I rarely if ever got any over-spray on parts that were "masked" unless it was my own fault ( rushing as an example ). Best of luck on finding what works best for you.

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:26 PM
I've been meaning to get some of that liquid latex myself... Heard it works real good
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:56 AM
I have used,liquid latex for years,as a masking agent.I am talking about the thicker stuff,you find in model railroading.I have never had any problems,but then again I am an exclusive enamel user,I tried Model Master acrl. when they first came out,and was not all that impressed,even though I know they have now improved.I haven't built my refit yet,but I am going to use Silly Putty,for masking the windows,its fast,easy,and removes very easily.
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:30 PM

 ilikespagetti wrote:
Yeah I'm with Ed here, I'm having a hard enough time trying to motivate myself to wire two jumbo LED's in my T-800 Endoskull.

 

LoL you got more guts than I (or no brains) as I know I don't posess the skills nor patience to attempt a wiring job like thatSigh [sigh]

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Posted by ilikespagetti on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:06 PM
Yeah I'm with Ed here, I'm having a hard enough time trying to motivate myself to wire two jumbo LED's in my T-800 Endoskull.
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:31 AM
 Mikeym_us wrote:

Ed I definitely think I'll need a bigger transformer unless I can find a way for a 14 volt LED to work with a 9 or 12 volt transformer. But there are 8 green 2 red and 25 clear LED's and they are 14 volts. And I do have some bulbs I took off of my AMT Star Destroyer with fiber optics that work with 9 volts.

LoL... all greek to me!! sounds like you've got your work cut out for ya tho.

WB Chris!! 

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:03 AM

Cant say I have been game enough to light anything either.. The Bandai models are about as far as I have gotten with lighting!Approve [^]

Cant wait to see once you have it all worked out though!.. 

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:01 AM

Ed I definitely think I'll need a bigger transformer unless I can find a way for a 14 volt LED to work with a 9 or 12 volt transformer. But there are 8 green 2 red and 25 clear LED's and they are 14 volts. And I do have some bulbs I took off of my AMT Star Destroyer with fiber optics that work with 9 volts.

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, January 22, 2007 11:44 PM

LoL I don't think I could even consider trying to light up my Enterprises!!Shock [:O]

That just looks too dang small & confusing for meBanged Head [banghead]

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, January 22, 2007 8:02 PM
Space,... the Final Frontier... LoL... Big problem ther and here tooSigh [sigh]
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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, January 22, 2007 7:16 PM

I've got time to build both but not the space since my workspace is also my bedroom. And I think it is going to get interesting when I wire up the 30+ grain of wheat bulbs that I have (though I think I might only need 10)

here are pics of my 35 Grain of Wheat bulbs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/100_0212.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/100_0211.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/100_0210.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/100_0209.jpg

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The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, January 22, 2007 6:41 PM

 Mikeym_us wrote:
now if only they can make a unbreakable wooden toothpick. Thats my only problem with toothpicks now with the tweezers I gently use the edge to pick the edge up then slowly pull the sheet of micromask off of the window. Now as for the Refit I am not sure if I should start it before or after I start on the Reliant.

 

Banged Head [banghead] do both!!Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, January 22, 2007 6:38 PM
now if only they can make a unbreakable wooden toothpick. Thats my only problem with toothpicks now with the tweezers I gently use the edge to pick the edge up then slowly pull the sheet of micromask off of the window. Now as for the Refit I am not sure if I should start it before or after I start on the Reliant.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, January 22, 2007 3:04 PM

Now once I get a corner up I'd grab it with the tweezers but, it's trying to get the corner upthat kills me!!Banged Head [banghead]and then it breaks after a little tug so, back to pickin' at it.  I've pretty much got it all off the Ent. D I'm working on tho

 

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, January 22, 2007 12:42 PM
did you try tweezers Ed? Because I use micro mask alot for clear parts and I just use tweezers to take it off with no problems.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, January 22, 2007 11:53 AM

 Mikeym_us wrote:
well as for me for the most part I am going to Aztec the saucer without the windows in place. Then assemble it later. 

 

That sounds like a plan. at least ya wont have to worry about masking the windowsBig Smile [:D] I'll

probably try this since I've used the Micro Mask & have tried various methods to remove it. Tape, sharpened toothpick, Q-tip with alcohol, still had to revert to the back of a #11 blade to get it up thoSigh [sigh] 

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Posted by RonUSMC on Monday, January 22, 2007 1:48 AM
Use Micro Mask and then afterwards use a sharpened toothpick to peel it up.
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Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:43 PM
well as for me for the most part I am going to Aztec the saucer without the windows in place. Then assemble it later. 

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:31 PM

Hey Guido, Welcome to the forums & yes, some people still use parafilm. I just tried

some Frisket last night on my P-51B for the first time and it worked pretty good on the

open green house canopy. Might be good to use on this Monster Refit too!!Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Guido1081 on Sunday, January 21, 2007 5:19 PM

Heya,

  Does anyone use Parafilm anymore. That is what I used to use ( I am just getting back into building again). 10 years ago ( roughly ) it was the thing to use and abuse, not sure now.

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:41 AM

a valuable lesson learned and this Monster is a learning experience.

Best thing to do when one gets flustered is to take a break from it. At least, that is what I do 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:07 AM

grrrrrr.. I KNEW someone was gonna ask me that...

   Honest answer? I did. But after applying all the aztecing, I just couldn't stomach the thought of applying it to all the windows too. I figured "There's just GOTTA be an easier way!!".

   So, valuable lesson learned.

   I'm currently taking a break from it. I've got several places where the paint has lifted (peeled?) either from the aztecing or from masking and miscellaneous other painting mishaps so I'm gonna let my frustration settle down a bit.

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:55 PM
why didn't you get the Aztec Dummy aztec masking set because it comes with window masks.(though I got version 2.0)

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, January 7, 2007 8:01 PM
 Chris_in_Japan wrote:

Did you hold your tongue at 45 degrees like I said Ed?Tongue [:P]

Chris 

 

Yeup. Tried that. 

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Sunday, January 7, 2007 6:12 PM

Did you hold your tongue at 45 degrees like I said Ed?Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, January 7, 2007 3:14 PM
 Zoloff Tinru wrote:

  Microscale has a mask called  MICRO  MASK !Liquid masking medium.........                             Works Great!!!!

 

 

Yep, but, I have been having troubles getting it off afterwards 

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Posted by Zoloff Tinru on Friday, January 5, 2007 2:21 PM

  Microscale has a mask called  MICRO  MASK !Liquid masking medium.........                             Works Great!!!!

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 3, 2007 6:25 AM

Hi all,

   Yep, I would definitely use masking tape next time (if I get a next time). I'm getting the paint and stuff off, but it's a real bear. adding some liquid (spit) seems to help loosen it quite a bit.

  Man, sometimes I really wish life had a rewind button.....

  

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Wednesday, January 3, 2007 5:40 AM

Yeah patience is the key.. I rushed the first PL refit that I did, and although it turned out ok, it kinda showed.. This second one, I have stop started, stop started, but atleast I am not rushing it.. It will get done, but I definately will do the small thinf properly!.. So I say, do what feels right, but dont cut corners!

Chris 

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