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Identify This!!! 1.0

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Posted by bryan01 on Monday, January 19, 2009 4:38 PM

Thank you George! Your arithmetic question is indeed still puzzling me Black Eye [B)]

Try to solve this one!

 

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Posted by searat12 on Monday, January 19, 2009 4:40 PM
It's the Kaiser's royal yacht 'Hohenzollern'
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Posted by bryan01 on Monday, January 19, 2009 4:45 PM

Damn you Searat, two whole Censored [censored] minutes! You're too good! Wink [;)]

You're next!

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Posted by searat12 on Monday, January 19, 2009 7:43 PM

Yeah, I can be a problem!  Here is the quarterdeck of one of my very favoritest pre-dreadnought ships... What is the ship?

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, January 19, 2009 11:16 PM
Y'know, many of us could come up with a bazillion obscure photographs of ship's components or deck scenes and ask "where or what" and absolutely no one on this forum would be able to identify them as to the exact vessel. With all due respect, and I do have the upmost respect for you, searat, how are we to know what your favoritest pre-dreadnaught is? Is there something unique about this quarterdeck that sets it apart from the rest? It isn't the Olympia by any chance?

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by bryan01 on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:19 AM

Is it perhaps USS Brooklyn 1896?

 

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Posted by searat12 on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:30 AM
It is indeed the USS Brooklyn!!  So you see subfixer, these aren't that hard if you know your stuff (and I made sure that enough really distinctive details were in the photo for identification, like the wheel on the quarterdeck, the round aft turret, old-style 8"guns, etc, etc...).  Your turn bryan01!!!
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Posted by GeorgeW on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:03 AM

Well Bryan is getting a bit of a reputation as a pre- dreadnought meisterSmile [:)]

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 1:46 PM

 searat12 wrote:
It is indeed the USS Brooklyn!!  So you see subfixer, these aren't that hard if you know your stuff (and I made sure that enough really distinctive details were in the photo for identification, like the wheel on the quarterdeck, the round aft turret, old-style 8"guns, etc, etc...).  Your turn bryan01!!!

I do know my stuff, that just wasn't my stuff. I have some stuff that I am quite sure wouldn't be your stuff either. I'll let it go.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by bryan01 on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:54 PM

Please gentlemen, don't let this argument ruin an, otherwise, nice thread! Especially on the day that your nation, and perhaps the whole world, move to a new and hopefully better era!

I was planning on writing a fun, sarcastic reply about how easy it was to identify this ship but now I feel it is best to refrain from doing that.

Searat, I have to be honest with you. The picture itself wasn't what made think it was USS Brooklyn. Just like Subfixer said before me, there are just not enough clues in it to come to that conclusion. Maybe it has for someone with expert knowledge of that period in the US Navy. But that doesn't apply to me. I'm not the pre-dreadnought meister (thank you George).

I just know how to connect things and how to find stuff! When you said this was of one of your very favoritest pre-dreadnought ships I had the suspicion you might already have stated that opinion somewhere else on this forum. So I looked at the 1/350 kits we all would like to see! thread (which you yourself started) and voila....there it was:

20 Nov 2008, Searat12: USS Brooklyn ACR 3 (my favorite predreadnought!) Then I noticed the filename of your picture: bro.jpg. That did the trick for me. So you see, no magic, no knowledge, no miracle, just common sense. Sorry!

 

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Posted by searat12 on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:16 PM
Well, its worth noting that USS Brooklyn was the ONLY US armored cruiser to have a WHEEL on the quarterdeck, and the round turret and 8" guns SHOULD have been a giveaway!  In any case, this thread IS 'Identify This!' and so the questions shouldn't be too easy, and not everyone knows everything (I note on the 'ship trivia' thread, the question is '15'.  Any clues there? And I fully admit I know next to nothing about liners or cruise ships!) In any case, your question, regardless of how you found the answer!
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Posted by bryan01 on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:12 AM

 searat12 wrote:

And I fully admit I know next to nothing about liners or cruise ships!

Ah, well, in that case this one is for you Evil [}:)]

 

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Posted by GeorgeW on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:09 AM

To save searat any brain ache,Wink [;)]  may I put forward the German liner Europa, later the French liner Liberte as the ship in question.

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Posted by bryan01 on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:14 AM

Not a bad guess now that you mention it, but no. Sorry George, try again!

 

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Posted by woodburner on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:00 AM
Oh, thats the second Mauritania.
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Posted by bryan01 on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:04 PM

 woodburner wrote:
Oh, thats the second Mauritania.

That sounds so casual Woodburner, it almost hurts Wink [;)]

I was quite sure most people would have thought it was RMS Queen Elizabeth! But you're right; it's the second Mauretania 1938.

You're next Woodburner!

 

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Posted by woodburner on Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:08 PM

Here is a design study for a pinnace. In later years it would be classified as a sixth rate, also a frigate. It represents a light, fast ship with a 66 foot keel, a 20.3 breadth, and a 7.8 depth of hold.  It may be a study for an actual ship Pett designed and built in 1635-36. The question is to identify the actual ship this drawing appears to be a design study for.

Pett's ship had a 60 foot keel instead of a 66 foot keel whilst depth of hold and breadth remained the same. As originally fitted in 1636, the ship was armed with 12 guns, later increased to 18 and then 20. It is also likely she was rebuilt over time.

The actual ship had an adventurous life, seeing battle in the Anglo Dutch wars at Goodwin Sand and Dungeness in 1652, where she carried 20 guns.  Lost in action in June, 1656 when overwhelmed by Dunkirkers in the North Sea. 

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Posted by bryan01 on Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:36 PM

Is it the Greyhound?

 

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Posted by woodburner on Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:48 PM

Absolutely. The Greyhound she is. 

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Posted by bryan01 on Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:43 PM

Ok, new one. No clues yet, just the picture.

 

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Posted by GeorgeW on Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:38 PM
Looks a bit Yacht like to me, she's wearing the White Ensign  at the stern and the Union flag at the Mizen, can't make out whether she has the Royal arms at the Main, I think it may be the Royal Yacht Victoria and Albert
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Posted by bryan01 on Friday, January 23, 2009 3:47 AM

And Victoria and Albert III it is! Isn't she a handsome ship? I would sure love to build a model of her.

Well done George, you're next!

 

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Posted by GeorgeW on Saturday, January 24, 2009 3:27 AM

This should be up for a quick answer.

 

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Posted by bryan01 on Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:22 AM

Is it the Guion Line Oregon 1883 lost after a collision in 1886?

 

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Posted by GeorgeW on Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:50 AM
Spot on Bryan, I said it was up for a quick answer - she was holder of the Blue Riband.
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Posted by bryan01 on Saturday, January 24, 2009 5:05 AM

Well, because of the "speed question" I am into ocean liners of course but your picture still required some searching.

New picture:

 

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Posted by bryan01 on Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:14 AM

Something strange is going on here!? I received an e-mail with the following content:

Posted By: woodburner in Ships
Subject: Re: Identify This!!! 1.0
Thats the french warship Valmy, commissioned in 1849.
Jim

But where did it go??? Never mind. The answer is right, Valmy it is. You're next Jim!

 

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Posted by woodburner on Saturday, January 24, 2009 5:31 PM

This liner was designed by the same man who built a famous racing vessel. The sound of a nightingale could be heard on board. 

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Posted by GeorgeW on Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:06 PM
The SS Atlantic, a Collins Line transatlantic steamer designed by George Steers who designed the yacht America. The nightingale connection, one of her earliest passengers was Jenny Lind, known as the Swedish Nightingale.
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Posted by woodburner on Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:26 PM
Thats absolutely correct, and the floor is yours. Very good work.

Jim
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