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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Friday, February 15, 2013 10:04 AM

Just as a point of clarification; in that write up; I was referring to the colors on my model, NOT the instructions ... But, I am sure that I'd be told by saying this that I'm wrong and be told what I actually meant ... Oh, well.

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Posted by gteo on Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:47 PM

Thanks Al and Garth for your valuable inputs.

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Posted by alross2 on Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:36 PM

The AIRFIX painting instructions are indeed wrong, but so is the statement on the PTBOATWORLD site that the colors were reversed.  <<The colors of the scheme were reversed. What was supposed to be light gray was instructed to be dark gray and what was supposed to be dark gray was supposed to be painted light gray instead of the other way around.>>  This would make the areas that are supposed to be white a dark gray.

Photos of MTB 385 on trials show her in Admiralty Basic.  The correct colors are white, G45 (a light gray) and B15 (a dark blue-gray).  You can get the correct paint from WEM www.whiteensignmodels.com

Here is the correct pattern from C.B. 3098 The Camouflage of Ships at Sea 1943:

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/vosper.jpg

While this depicts a 70' Vosper, the layout applies to the 73' Vospers as well.   If you can access John Lambert and Les Brown's ALLIED TORPEDO BOATS, take a look at Christian Sheppard-Capurro's MTB 386 on page 72.  

Al Ross  

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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:22 PM

Try GREAT LITTLE SHIPS

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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:06 AM

Teo ... Please contact me offsite .......

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Posted by gteo on Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:39 AM

Slightly off topic folks.  I just purchased a Airfix 1/72 Vosper MTB kit.  Wonder if there are any upgrade PE for this kit?  Would the Eduard PE for the Revell Vosper MTB be suitable?  Anyone knows of any upgrade parts for the Airfix kit?  I followed Garth's site and know the colour scheme on the Airfix instructions are incorrect.

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Posted by gteo on Monday, January 28, 2013 12:05 AM

I am using the White Ensign set.  I hope that I have not overdone the removal especially the torpedo tubes base.  If so, I may need to replace base with plasticard.  I may have misunderstood the instructions from White Ensign.

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Posted by subfixer on Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:00 PM

Now it works!

Nice job removing the detail. I hope that you have a lot of PE to replace it.  Smile

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Posted by gteo on Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:45 PM

Or click the link to view the picture

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Posted by gteo on Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:43 PM

I think the only way is to copy the link and past into browser to view the photo.  Sorry, I just can't seem to be able to attach picture to the post:

i1228.photobucket.com/.../Deck01_zps726e3ea4.jpg

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Posted by subfixer on Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:32 PM

It isn't working for me, gteo.

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Posted by gteo on Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:47 AM

Hope this works now.  Did I clean the deck details correctly, especially the torpedo tube plates?

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Posted by subfixer on Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:38 AM

Yes, you do.

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Posted by gteo on Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:55 PM

Tried all means I know off - although that is not much - but I still can't attach photo!  Maybe I have to use a photo host to link to?

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Posted by subfixer on Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:07 AM

Did you try the "Use rich formatting" feature located ____________________

                                                                                                               HERE below?

                                                                                                                   

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Posted by gteo on Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:58 AM

Oops! Can't include a photo.

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Posted by gteo on Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:56 AM

Can anyone advise if I have overdone the removal of details from the deck for replacement with PE parts please?  I am particularly curious about the base for the torpedo tubes per attached photo.  If so, I need to replace the plates with plasticards. Is 2mm plasticard the correct scale? Thanks all for your advice:


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Posted by jtilley on Friday, January 25, 2013 8:50 PM

Regarding number decals - you might take a look at this page:  www.bluejacketinc.com/.../usnavy.htm .  Scroll down to the bottom.  The numbers are intended for use on 1/192-scale warships, but there are several sizes on the sheet.  There might be something there that would work.

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Posted by gteo on Friday, January 25, 2013 4:59 PM

Love to share with you my progress (or lack of it) in my Revell 1/72 PT-109 build and get some feedback and advice as I go along.  How does one post photos on the site?  Also, has anyone come across this: 1/72 VOSPER MOTOR TORPEDO BOAT - GALAXY (FUJIAN) TOYS?  Was wondering if it is worth getting it.  It has the Airfix box art on the box and is available on ebay.

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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:23 PM

None are made ...........  you'd need to use generic ones or dry transfers ..........

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Posted by gteo on Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:14 AM

Anyone knows where I can get 1/72 scale decals for PT boat (109).  Ebay seems to only have 1/35 scale ones.

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Posted by dullcote on Monday, January 14, 2013 12:58 AM

also as stated on the web site............

""Single Depth Charge Rack Set

This set provides four single depth charge & chute units as carried on most Coastal Forces vessels. Sets can obviously be combined to fit out the larger boats. All the strapping and release gear is fully represented in this set, together with accurate mounting chocks.

Price: £6.00 (£7.20 Including VAT at 20%)""

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Posted by dullcote on Monday, January 14, 2013 12:55 AM

I beg to differ.....I have assemble two (2) of the racks and still have an additional 2 more racks left on the fret.  The set comes with 4 inner and 4 outers.....Hardware for 4  endplates for  4 and 4 white metal DC's.  Im looking at it this moment and just counted the set....There are four (4) in the "Coastal Forces Depth Charge and Chute Set as stated

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:46 PM

Sorry but the 4 roll off racks are really 2 roll off racks they are assembled in a inner half outer half fashion to get the correct scale thickness and on the outer half you assemble the tackle for the supplied thread strapping.

dullcote

On DJ Parks site he has a page for RN weapons and fittings..... there he list a "roll-off" DC set that has 4 DC's with 4 sets of end plates brackets and associated hardware for the DC's it comes with 4 Roll off racks but the set can be used without the racks.   Ive used the individual DC's for a sub chaser build and it looks great since the end plates "MAKE" the DC's look accurate.

Now this isnt the same set on the main page...this set is only about 9 USD as opposed to 42 USD for the complete set..

Here it is..  djparkins.com/acatalog/Royal_Navy_Coastal_Forces_Weapons___Fittings_Sets.html

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

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Posted by dullcote on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 10:48 AM

On DJ Parks site he has a page for RN weapons and fittings..... there he list a "roll-off" DC set that has 4 DC's with 4 sets of end plates brackets and associated hardware for the DC's it comes with 4 Roll off racks but the set can be used without the racks.   Ive used the individual DC's for a sub chaser build and it looks great since the end plates "MAKE" the DC's look accurate.

Now this isnt the same set on the main page...this set is only about 9 USD as opposed to 42 USD for the complete set..

Here it is..  djparkins.com/acatalog/Royal_Navy_Coastal_Forces_Weapons___Fittings_Sets.html

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Posted by dhenning on Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:36 PM

I used Evergreen plastic tubing and plastic rod to make my depth charges on my Lindberg 1/64 scale PT-109 (was a gift from my two boys).  Go to the pt-103.com website for dimensions of the depth charge and you should be able to make them pretty easily.  Leave the tubing a little longer than the rod for the rim at the edges of the depth charge and put a slice of smaller diameter rod in the middle to represent the fuse(??).   Worked out okay on mine.

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Posted by gteo on Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:58 PM

Thanks to all for your helpful comments and advice.  

I have been looking around for  2 x 1/72 depth charge for my Revell PT 109.  White Ensign(WE) PT109 PE set provides the cradle for the depth charge but not the depth charges themselves.  WE has a resin set which I am not sure is suitable - Coastal Craft 1/72 Depth Charges & Racks (CCA72008), DJ Parkins has another for RN vessels Single Depth Charge Rack Set but it comes with everything and I only need the cylindrical depth charges.  Can anyone assist in sharing how I should scratch build them or does anyone have 2 spare 1/72 depth charges that I can purchase from?

Another thing is that the WE Revell 1/72 PT PE set mentions about using plastic rods for the torpedo tube mounting clamp assembly.  What is the size of the plastic rod to be used?  What about using wire instead of plastic rods for the mounting clamp assembly?  Again, I will need the diameter of the wire for this.

I am a newbie at detail ship modeling and WE could have been more helpful in putting the PT set together, imho. Then again, if they provided everything, I will not have an opportunity to meet fantastic people on this site.

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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Saturday, January 5, 2013 5:03 PM

Yes, all books mentioned COULD assist you.  My publisher told me that a proof draft would be ready sometime in January.  It's January ...... I'm "guessing" February, March.  Go to www.ptboatworld.com and keep checking.

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Posted by gteo on Saturday, January 5, 2013 4:44 PM

Thanks Garth.  I understand the implications of your comment.  Would these works. including yours, have the plan diagrams to help me attach the PE parts?  When will your book be published?

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