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Revell 1/90 Nina Completed

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Posted by gene1 on Monday, May 30, 2016 8:34 AM

Hi Krill,  Your English is great, most American's don't do a great job with our own language much less speak another, me included. This is a great site isn't it? I have been building models since the early 1940's & still learn a lot here.

  They have a really great & friendly bunch of model builders here.

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Posted by kirill4 on Saturday, May 28, 2016 3:09 PM

Good day,

Dear gene1,

I'm very sorry for my english... those models... they are in the Las Palmas Columbus museum, I 've just made fotoes of them... thought  these pictures will be useful as  source of addtnl information for Steve... 

BRGDS

Kirill

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Posted by gene1 on Friday, May 27, 2016 9:13 AM

Krill, Your models are beautiful. I would very much like to see pictures of more of your ship models.

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Posted by kirill4 on Friday, May 27, 2016 12:37 AM

 Good Day Steve,

I like very much your model, the way how You do it... and your painting job as well... could You pls give a link with description of your painting technique?

I would like to learn how to do that....

there are some pictures of Columbus ships models , I made them in Las Palmas Columbus museum...fotoes quality is not perfect, but may be some info from this pictures could be useful...they are in the same reconstruction version ,as I understood, as models You are busy with...

All The best!!!

Kirill

full set You can download here

 https://cloud.mail.ru/public/3h5J/cEuNXTXcS

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Posted by gene1 on Monday, May 23, 2016 6:23 PM

Steve, I have followed your Nina thread & have learned a lot from your beautiful work. I just finished the Pinta & am building all 3 with full sails It is just simething that I wanted to do. I would like to see all 3 with the sails & red crosse's.     Your work is flawless & I have had to cheat a little as I hate to spend too much time on a single model. I will be 86 in December & I want get them finished. I will start another thread for my pictures & other things. Thanks for your great post's & pictures.

   You would think after building models since WW2 I wouldn't need to learn more, but this forum has so much to teach us.

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Posted by docidle on Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:55 PM

Thank you Rod, Mark and Scott, I always appreciate your input. 

Rod, glad to see you back and modeling again. I am glad to hear the eye surgery went well. So when to we get to see some updates in your Santa Maria...... Hint, hint , wink, wink

Steve

I am going to post the remaining rigging pictures to finish off the thread but I am glad such excellent modelers are still checking it out!

       

 

 

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, November 27, 2015 1:06 PM

Excellent work Steve.  

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Posted by surfsup on Thursday, November 26, 2015 4:08 AM

Beautifully done so far Steve. I just love looking at your work.....Cheers mark

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Posted by millard on Wednesday, November 25, 2015 7:59 PM

Steve I've been catching up today.You are doing great work. I like very much.

Rod

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Posted by docidle on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 10:43 AM

Alright then. I tried posting these rigging pictures last night on the iPad and after an amazing dissertation, I was posting pictures and proceeded to to lose everything......DOH!

So, let's try this again.

I used Xavier Pastor's Anotomy of the Ship, "The Ships of Chistopher Columbus" as a rigging guide since the Revell instructions were not really helpful at all. However, there was not much on rigging the Nina in Pastor's book either. I mainly used the mizzen mast rigging  page and illustration.

I am going to start with the mizzen mast since I started rigging her that way. It actually ended up being easier to rig from the stern forward and rig each mast completely before proceeding to the next mast. Not usually how I rig but with the limited space it turned out to be the right choice.

The first two pictures show the toggle that is connected to the halyard blocks and will go through the loop on the yard. The second picture shows the rigging of the blocks. I used Model Expo blocks by the way. The upper block is double stropped.

After that the next set of photos show the rigging of the halyard, sheets, tacks and vangs. 

Steve

 

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 10:25 AM

Thanks Mike!

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:22 AM

Steve,

A beautiful model, beautifully built.

Mike

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: Tempe AZ
Posted by docidle on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:30 PM

Thank you Scott, Rob and Bill. 

Scott,

You are a madman! Great work on your Nina. Amazing actually, especially when you consider that you built her in 48 hours. Hopefully you now have your ship building *** back.

Rob,

Thanks for checking out my log. I love the work you've been doing on those teeny tiny models. And thanks for the information earlier on the various Nina models and the differences.

Bill,

You are absolutely right, Columbus made all four voyages and reconned a good chunk of the New World in less time than it took me to build this one. I never said I was a good modeler, just a slow one.

 

I was in the process of posting pictures of the rigging sequence and actually had four pictures posted with elegant descriptions when they all disappeared into the ether...... So much for posting with an iPad.

Steve

 

       

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 7:07 PM

Columbus discovered half of the world faster...

Just teasing, a great journey.

Of course start a new thread.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:11 PM

Great work, Steve!

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, November 13, 2015 1:58 PM

Hi Steve,  Wonderful work on your Nina.  I started to build the Heller version and you make some great references I wish I could duplicate. I am noticing a huge difference between the Heller and the Revell kits.  The Heller is only a two masted lantine rig, probably for when the Nina was used in the Medditerrean.  Oh, and I signed up to build this kit in the Weekend Madness 48 hr group build this weekend.  I have been in the doldrums in my ship building of late and hope this would give me a jump start.  I look forward to your Pinta in another build log in the future.  I have the Heller kit and maybe do a log as well.  Cheers, Scott.

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Posted by docidle on Monday, November 9, 2015 10:31 PM

Thank you Mark,

I always appreciate your feeback.

Steve and John,

I agree especially about the gods of the ether, John. As you hopefully noticed, I changed the name and will start a new thread with just the Pinta.

I also want to thank everyone who has commented, offered advice and just plain stuck with me through this really long thread. 

Thank you again,  gentlemen,

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by surfsup on Monday, November 9, 2015 3:06 AM

Steve they look superb. The Wood effect is brilliant. You should be very happy with the results......Cheers Mark

If i was your wife, i'd poison your tea! If Iwas your husband, I would drink it! WINSTON CHURCHILL

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, November 9, 2015 12:42 AM

I agree. This thread's long enough; if it gets much longer the Gods of the Ether may object. And the Pinta is going to be another ship; it deserves another thread.

For the sake of anybody searching for models of the Nina in the future, you might consider changing the title of this thread to clarify that it's about the Nina.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, November 8, 2015 11:30 PM

Hey Steve, I agree with your reason to start a new thread. It just seems that it's a new ship and it deserves a new thread. You have my vote.

Steve

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Sunday, November 8, 2015 10:30 PM

Thank you Dave, Steve and Allan. That was one crazy rigging session. Friday, from 8 to 6 and my hands are still recovering. But it feels good to be done. It did not come out too bad, but looking at her I see some issues with the rigging that are directly attributed to trying to complete it in one day.

I think I should do the Pinta as a separate thread due to the length of this one. Anyone want to give me their opinion on a separate thread?

Thanks again,

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by allan on Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:04 PM

She is simply beautiful. All your efforts paid off. Always admired modelers who build sailing ships. 

 

Oh, and now I know what those stick looking thingies from the Elco pics are.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, November 7, 2015 10:44 AM

Steve, congrats with finishing this out! You should feel good about how this came out.  A very nice job indeed...  Yes

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Posted by David_K on Saturday, November 7, 2015 10:29 AM

POW!

Looks great, my friend!

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Posted by docidle on Friday, November 6, 2015 8:56 PM

Bill,

Thanks for the help, hopefully I got it right, but I think I erred on the overdone side. I'll tell you something, it got really crowded in there when I was finishing the main mast. The halyards were especially a bear.

I was using Pastor's "Ships of Columbus" as a guide since the instructions were worse than useless; however, Pastor did not have much on the Nina rigging so I had to improvise a bit using the mizzen for the Santa Maria as an example. I was thinking of scratching the parrels but gave it up after the halyards.

I thought that the main halyard would be the easiest.....but it actually turned out to be the most difficult. Maybe I should have used different blocks like the other two masts but I was sort of laser visioned on the sister blocks and really wanted to use them. The hardest part was finishing off the halyard lines at the cross piece that slips into the loop on the spar. I started by tying off one end of the line at the cross piece, slipped the line through the sheave, down to the top block, through that sheave and back up through the sheave to the cross piece. I then tied the end to the cross piece in situ which gave it a slightly slack look. 

Overall, I am fairly happy with the finished product and now I need to finish the Pinta and Santa Maria......as well as the PT Boat and Dreadnought, etc. Although, I am going to have to give my hands a respite first.

Thanks again for the help,

Steve

 

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Friday, November 6, 2015 7:06 PM

Mike,

The tie offs are a cheat..... yes, I cheat sometimes when it comes to rigging. Instead of trying to tie off all a tanto on thr model, especially at this small of a ship, I made a jig to create tie offs and then glue them over the spots I need them. The first picture shows where I put some of them.

Anyway, I pulled a marathon session today, which my hands are telling me was a dumb move, but if I tried to work tomoorow and finish, my hands would have been in bad shape either way, so, I finshed! Yes, after three years, I finally finished the Nina. Weird, that it will be three ears as of tomorrow...... queue the Twightlight Zone music again please.

Right now, I am just going to post some finished shots, but hopefully this weekend I'll fill out with the work photos, if anyone is interested. right now, I'm really tired.

Enjoy,

Steve

 

       

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, November 6, 2015 12:22 AM

This looks well thought out. The stowed running rigging/ sail control ropes are well done.

A couple of ideas. First, the lateen boom doesn't go around the mast on the tack, so go ahead and rig the sheets to the tack on the sail on the same side as the spar.

Second, depending on which side of the tack the ship is on, the sheets to the square sails are plus or minus but with no sails set, equal.

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Posted by 1943Mike on Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:34 PM

Steve,

As just about all who see your work exclaim, your painting/weathering skills are extraordinary!

Please forgive my ignorance on this subject but where are all (I count nine) of the bundled line you've made going to be placed on board? Do they have something to do with the "tieoffs" for the running rigging to which you refer?

If I ever get around to starting my Heller Nina I'll likely refer to this thread often.

Mike

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by docidle on Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:24 PM

Thank you gentlemen, I appreciate the feedback. I have ot admit that sailing ships are my first love, but I'll try and build anything that floats.......

Here's a small update. Spent a great amount of time doing really small things. Cleaned up the extra line from the deadeyes and made a boatload of tieoffs for the running rigging. The halyards are set to go up next with the yards. Doing a lateen rig is definitelty different.

Enjoy,

Steve

       

 

 

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