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  • Member since
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  • From: Detroit, MI
Help painting a ship please!
Posted by Marmaduke on Monday, May 13, 2013 9:12 PM

Greetings all! I need a little help with painting! First let me say that I'm normally a WWII aircraft builder in either 1/48 or 1/32 scale. I have a good grasp of painting aircraft but don't really know where to begin with painting a 1/350 scale ship. I have the Tamiya USS Missouri in 1/350 with a few sub assemblies constructed and am nearing what I think might be the painting phase. I would like to paint her as she looked at or around the Japanese surrender. This would call for different colors for the vertical and horizontal surfaces. My question is this, which would you recommend painting first? Either way seems like an awful lot of extremely tedious taping and masking. Do I airbrush one and brush paint the other? Also, should I attach photo etch railings before or after paint? Before seems like even more tedious taping but after seems like it would be difficult to get glue to stick. Does anyone know of any online builds that might show a step by step? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks all! Happy modeling! 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:51 AM

The good news is that the camouflage at the time of the surrender was measure 22 according to http://www.shipcamouflage.com/measure_22.htm and they are always right.

Tedious masking? Maybe a little.

Put the PE on afterwards. The stuff is fragile and CANNOT be masked around in the case of railings.

Suoerglue puts it on fine after painting.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:46 AM

I generally paint the hull before adding deck and superstructure. I paint  the deck seperately, then attach, trying to make a good join so there are no gaps that need to be filled (and subsequently painted).  There is often a lot of detail on the deck that needs to be painted a different color than deck proper- I do this with a brush.  Then, I build superstructure, painting it as I go, before gluing various superstructure subassemblies to main deck.  I paint upper decks seperately before adding to appropriate superstructure.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:24 PM

If you check the "Forces of Nature" group build, in the Group Build section, I built a 1/700 model of USS Wisconsin (BB-64), sister to the Missouri.  Both ships were in the same Measure 22 camouflage in 1945.

You can see how the masking went, and I don't think it would be much different for a 1/350 ship, except bigger.  It wasn't as tedious or difficult as I thought it might be, even in this small of a scale.

Good luck!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by oscarwray on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:32 PM

checkmateking02

If you check the "Forces of Nature" group build, in the Group Build section, I built a 1/700 model of USS Wisconsin (BB-64), sister to the Missouri.  Both ships were in the same Measure 22 camouflage in 1945.

You can see how the masking went, and I don't think it would be much different for a 1/350 ship, except bigger.  It wasn't as tedious or difficult as I thought it might be, even in this small of a scale.

Good luck!

It looks like your photos on that post have been removed from photo bucket. Could you repost them? I am starting my missouri again and am considering various ways of masking and your photos would be quit helpful. 

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Posted by Tracy White on Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:16 PM

GMorrison

The good news is that the camouflage at the time of the surrender was measure 22 according to http://www.shipcamouflage.com/measure_22.htm and they are always right.

I'm the webmaster, and we're not always right. We try, though!

There are about as many preferred ways to build & paint a model ship as there are pieces. I generally find it easier to paint the sides first, mask off, and then do the decks. There are two main reasons for this, and they don't always apply.

1) If you do the decks first, you might have to cut a circle out at just the right diameter to cover a circular cut-out in the superstructure - I find it easier to lay tape down on the flat superstructure sides.

2) if you mask off a planked deck, it's easy for the paint to creap under the tape to the plank lines. This may be an effect you want with a wash, anyway, but I prefer to have more control, so that I don' thave a really dark area near vents and the like and lighter joints elsewhere.

I generally build up and out; leave the small gun soff until after the main painting is done, so you're not breaking stuff off.  DO the hull, then larger superstructure pieces, then main turrets, etc.

Tracy White Researcher@Large

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  • From: AandF in the Badger State
Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, May 17, 2013 9:19 AM

oscarwray

checkmateking02

If you check the "Forces of Nature" group build, in the Group Build section, I built a 1/700 model of USS Wisconsin (BB-64), sister to the Missouri.  Both ships were in the same Measure 22 camouflage in 1945.

You can see how the masking went, and I don't think it would be much different for a 1/350 ship, except bigger.  It wasn't as tedious or difficult as I thought it might be, even in this small of a scale.

Good luck!

It looks like your photos on that post have been removed from photo bucket. Could you repost them? I am starting my missouri again and am considering various ways of masking and your photos would be quit helpful. 

 

Really!?  I haven't looked at the GB for a long while, and will check it.  But all the photos are still there in my photobucket account. 

 

 

 

 

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  • From: AandF in the Badger State
Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, May 17, 2013 9:35 AM

They are gone!  Maybe they disappeared when I changed to photobucket's new version.

In this photo, I painted the topside haze gray, then masked the vertical surfaces to prepare for painting the deck.

But here's a photo of the masked deck, which is already painted.  The hull has the navy blue applied.

Some more various shots of masked places during the process.  it's not completely finished, as you can see the top portions of small walls are not covered.  I used common Walmart variety tape, with a low tack.

Hopefully, these will give you some ideas.  If it can be done in 1/700, it can be done in 1/350.

Fair winds and following seas!

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Detroit, MI
Posted by Marmaduke on Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:38 AM

Thanks for all the tips guys! Greatly appreciated!

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