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Charles W. Morgan in San Francisco- research for future build

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Posted by rwiederrich on Saturday, September 7, 2013 10:28 AM

I'm glad...I used them when I built the Morgan years ago....myself.  good luck and good modeling.

Rob

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  • From: Tempe AZ
Posted by docidle on Saturday, September 7, 2013 2:12 AM

Rob,

I want to thank you for posting these photos, they do help.  I agree with GM that all the photos showed great detail.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Friday, September 6, 2013 5:11 PM

I believe the images were taken after her aft cabin was added..but before the aft gallery windows.  She was bark rigged..and I am not sure of the dates. I have another image of the mizzen when she was ship rigged..but again..not sure of the dates.

Rob

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, September 6, 2013 1:05 PM

rwiederrich

I wanted to help and I had these images for some time......and the model I build(years ago) didn't resemble these images...so I knew the model was based upon later remodels.  I always prefer to build ships in their original configuration...as the designer intended(that's just me).

Thanks again, Rob.

The Revell kit is a mixture of old and new. It seems to most closely resemble the ship the way it was received by Mystic Seaport, following it's earlier career in movies and subsequent static display on the Green estate at South Dartmouth until 1941. The gunport paint job is unrealistic, and the ship was fully rigged. She was built that way in 1841 and is so depicted by the model, but converted to a bark later. The stern deck house came later, as did the windows in the stern. Both are featured on the model.

So the model has the original rig, but all kinds of hull features from her bark days and forward into the 1930's.

Your pictures seem to be from around 1900 or so. Do you have more info on that? They show her as she appeared from about 1861 until the end of her whaling career.

An original configuration, in general terms would be black painted hull, ship rig, no stern deck house or gallery windows, four boats of lapstrake construction on davits rather than five of flush plank construction, no roof over the try pots, and many other lesser details.

Many thanks, these photos are superb.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Friday, September 6, 2013 10:42 AM

I wanted to help and I had these images for some time......and the model I build(years ago) didn't resemble these images...so I knew the model was based upon later remodels.  I always prefer to build ships in their original configuration...as the designer intended(that's just me).

Glad they will help.

Rob

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, September 5, 2013 10:41 PM

These are really wonderful- thank you very much!

The details of the mizzen rig is very hard to find, the short cross tree with the main braces and sheets rigged to it.

The wire stays and solid "ratline" footsteps- great!

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:56 PM

I hope these images help anybody who is building the Morgan from her earlier days.

Rob

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:56 PM

And lastly one of the main chain plate and channel

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:55 PM

One of the wheel and tiller control

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:52 PM

Another angle

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:51 PM

Mizzen mast top

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:50 PM

More main mast rigging

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:49 PM

Looking up the main mast

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:48 PM

Foremast top rigging

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:47 PM

Her billet.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:46 PM

Here she is drawn out for repairs..wider view

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:45 PM

From the bow looking back

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:44 PM

And her bow

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:43 PM

I think I figured it out...well for all of you Morgan builders.  These are images from her turn of the century overhaul.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, September 5, 2013 1:40 PM

I figured it out...I failed to post my images to my FB account then upload them to here...when I get home, I'll post those CWM images.  :)

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:06 PM

Rob,

I'm not sure this will help. I know you know how to post images ... but maybe a small variation in technique would break through?

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/154443.aspx

Mike

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:15 PM

Keep trying!

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:56 PM

Grrrrrr.....

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:53 PM

OK..

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:52 PM

One more....How small does this image need to be?

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:50 PM

Lets try this

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:30 PM

Sorry...I can't get the images to upload.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:27 PM

Over sized.....I'll try again

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:24 PM

Pictures would be nice

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