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Bronco 1/350 Schnellboot (finished 4/24, photos p.3)

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, May 3, 2021 4:58 PM

LudwigVonMech

Mikeym_us-

Do you have a reference for the Tir Firness non-skid coating on S-boote? I cannot find anything.

Tanks

 

 

Ludwig, I personally do not. I only went off what another member said here, earlier in the thread.  But based off of his statement, what I had read about Tir Firness on U-Boats, and the photos I was able to dig up showing that the wood areas were quite dark from some sort of wood stain, it all made sense and I went with it.

 

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Posted by LudwigVonMech on Monday, April 26, 2021 2:53 PM

Mikeym_us-

Do you have a reference for the Tir Firness non-skid coating on S-boote? I cannot find anything.

Tanks

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, April 25, 2014 8:52 PM

Thank you

 

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Posted by DUSTER on Friday, April 25, 2014 8:26 PM

 WOW! real nice. 

Steve

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, April 24, 2014 3:34 PM

Thank you Marcus. It is a fun little kit to build. I look forward to seeing yours on here.

 

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Thursday, April 24, 2014 3:20 PM

Very nice, love the detail.  I have the same model and feeling that I need to stop my present project and knock this one out.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:48 PM

Ok. I am calling this one done...

I present Bronco's 1/350 S-100 Class Schnellboot

comments and critiques welcome... Pirate

 

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       - Plankton

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:29 PM

I finally made some near final progress on my Schnellboot today. Washes and tints applied and cleaned up... 

Tomorrows plan is flat coat, drybrushing, and call this one done...

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

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       - Plankton

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:06 AM

Thank you sir... just a bit more to finish up here....

 

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Posted by DUSTER on Friday, April 18, 2014 8:41 PM

  Beauty

Steve

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:16 PM

LOL! Thanks ;-)

 

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Posted by docidle on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:12 PM

Boy, is that an understatement!

       

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 7:46 PM

Building was easy enough... it's everything that came afterwards where the challenges started adding up...

 

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Posted by docidle on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 7:40 PM

Dang Stik, that puppy is small.  How ever did you build it, let alone cutting out the commander's initials?  My hat is off to you sir.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:13 PM

Even next to my 1/350 Graf Spee it is dwarfed...

 

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Posted by Rambo on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:06 PM

wow that is tiny and it would probably about vanish if you put it next to a 1/350 Bismark

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:47 PM

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, March 24, 2014 8:56 PM

Well I had to make some adjustments here. While researching Hoffmans sortie from LeHavre for markings, it turns out the Cdr Hoffman lead Torpedoboote, a much larger nearly destroyer sized vessel, rather than Schnellboote. So I now have to adjust marking choices. I have decided to model S-188, a boat of the 4th Flotilla, since I like their stalking panther unit marking. I know s-188 did see some action based upon this photo of her with battle damage after returning to port from a sortie on the night of June 7/8. (Mike, I can also see the darkened Tir Firness wood decks in this photo)

anyways, S-188 would be lost on June 14, along with many other Kriegsmarine vessels during a heavy RAF daylight raid on La Havre to neutralize the problem.

Today I airbrushed on a final coat of MM Schnellboot Weiss on teh up[per hull sides and let that dry

After giving that time to dry, I then glued the upper and lower hulls together

Next up, a coat of Future, then I can begin decals, washes, etc.

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:48 PM
No problem Stik willing to help any time. Good thing I bought both sets of Life Color Kriegsmarine paint sets since I originally got those for my 1/72 S-Boats and I do have the 1/350 Trumpeter kit now I have to get the 1/35 scale kit LOL.
stikpusher

Ok, now back to Tir Firness... (on my far more reliable desktop) I did a bunch of research on my U-boat builds a couple years ago, and I do recall reading about that stuff. Basicly it was a Black Pine Pitch IIRC, applied to the external wood surfaces on U-boats as a weatherproofing sealant. It would weather to a dark brown over time due to wear and the elements, from what I read. Now looking at the photos of S-Boats that makes sense more than Bronco's color guide. I was going more for a weathered teak look like on larger ships, I did not research the wood portions of S-Boat colors and was pretty much following the box painting guide (shame on me, they show a light gray hull color as opposed to Schnellboot Weiss), and the B&W photos show the wood ares to be very dark, almost indistiguishable from the dark gray painted portions. A few washes during the final weathering phases should get me a darker look. Thanks for the heads up.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:18 PM

Ok, now back to Tir Firness... (on my far more reliable desktop) I did a bunch of research on my U-boat builds a couple years ago, and I do recall reading about that stuff. Basicly it was a Black Pine Pitch IIRC, applied to the external wood surfaces on U-boats as a weatherproofing sealant. It would weather to a dark brown over time due to wear and the elements, from what I read. Now looking at the photos of S-Boats that makes sense more than Bronco's color guide. I was going more for a weathered teak look like on larger ships, I did not research the wood portions of S-Boat colors and was pretty much following the box painting guide (shame on me, they show a light gray hull color as opposed to Schnellboot Weiss), and the B&W photos show the wood ares to be very dark, almost indistiguishable from the dark gray painted portions. A few washes during the final weathering phases should get me a darker look. Thanks for the heads up.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Kincheloe Michigan
Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:08 PM
The problem with the Acer was that the Navidia G-force video card was going bad and causing the Blue screen of doom problems. The only thing I backed up from the Acer was my photos which I placed on my HP Pavillion and it has a 1 Terabyte hard drive .
jtilley

I lost a computer that way once - an HP.  I was typing something pretty important on it late one night when it started refusing to open up files.  I did everything I could think of, and finally called Customer Support.  (This was at about 3:00 a.m.)  The nice young lady in India told me to try several things, none of which worked.  Then she tried to sell me a new computer for $800.00 over the phone.  I eventually hung up on her, and bought a Mac.

The moral to all these horror stories: backup, backup, backup.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by jtilley on Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:25 PM

I lost a computer that way once - an HP.  I was typing something pretty important on it late one night when it started refusing to open up files.  I did everything I could think of, and finally called Customer Support.  (This was at about 3:00 a.m.)  The nice young lady in India told me to try several things, none of which worked.  Then she tried to sell me a new computer for $800.00 over the phone.  I eventually hung up on her, and bought a Mac.

The moral to all these horror stories: backup, backup, backup.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Friday, March 21, 2014 8:45 PM
God I know what it is to have a computer go FUBAR the Acer computer I was using after my other computer blew up was getting the blue screen of doom which sucked. Now I have a top of the line HP Pavilion my first new computer in at least a decade.
stikpusher

Steve, thank you, this has been a fun build.

Mike I had a nice long reply typed out covering your post and then my tablet crapped out, dumped and lost it, pissing me off once again- dont buy an ASUS, they suck. I will address your points later on when my calm returns...

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 AM

Steve, thank you, this has been a fun build.

Mike I had a nice long reply typed out covering your post and then my tablet crapped out, dumped and lost it, pissing me off once again- dont buy an ASUS, they suck. I will address your points later on when my calm returns...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by docidle on Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:52 PM

Looking very cool Stik.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:31 PM
Stik The wood surfaces should be Tir firness which translates to tar varnish it is a slightly darker version of the color you used. Tir firness is used as a non-skid surface on wood decks on U-boats and S-Boats since they are exposed to water for long periods of time unlike the other ships of the Kriegsmarine. You may want to add coils of rope to the deck as those are commonly seen on deck you could probably use brown sewing thread to simulate rope.
stikpusher

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:15 PM

well I got the after railings on... I used Gator Glue, which has minimal tack, so it was a bear to get these things to stay in place while it dries. I will go back tomorrow with a damp brush to remove the excess glue. Thats the ony real advantage to this stuff.

and a couple shots of how it will mostly look once its all done

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:10 PM

LOL! different boat ;-)

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:52 PM

That thing is so small, Raquel Welch rode it up to the guys brain...

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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