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  • Member since
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  • From: Illinois: Hive of Scum and Villany
Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:45 AM

keilau

Sprue-ce Goose

Thank you for posting this build.

I was unaware of the Glencoe kit and am impressed by your photos of the basic kit and during assembly.

If the kit is ever re-released, I definitely intend to add it to my builds as my first ocean liner.

Hobbylinc list this kit as "In Stock". Why wait for a re-released one?

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/glm/glm09302.htm

COOL !Big SmileYes
  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Windy city, US
Posted by keilau on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 9:54 PM

Sprue-ce Goose

Thank you for posting this build.

I was unaware of the Glencoe kit and am impressed by your photos of the basic kit and during assembly.

If the kit is ever re-released, I definitely intend to add it to my builds as my first ocean liner.

Hobbylinc list this kit as "In Stock". Why wait for a re-released one?

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/glm/glm09302.htm

  • Member since
    February 2014
Posted by jamesatmaisonverre on Monday, April 21, 2014 4:23 PM

Hi Lads,

Thanks for your kind comments. You can actually buy this kit from amazon.com at the mo, so go mad and get it.

Here is the list of colors that i have used so far.

Revell 331- Dark red SM- Keel anti fouling paint

Citadel Wild Rider Red- Light red Matt-Water line below white boot line.

Revell 301- White SM- Boot line\ Under coat for super structure and details

Humbrol 85- Black Satin- Hull above white bootline\Tops of funnels

Revell 374- Light grey SM- Fore castle on front of whale back.

Revell 48- Green Matt- Passenger deck areas as in pics above

Humbroll 22- White Gloss- Will be coating superstructure and details.

Citadel Bleached Bone- decks on wedding cake tear decks at stern\Patio Provencal

Revell 9- Dark grey Matt- Windows...eg... Swimming pool dome\Squash court skylight.

Revell 52- Gloss Blue- Patio provencal doors.

Citadel evil sunz scarlet- French line red on the funnels

Hope these help. I will update this list as time goes on.

Thanks again

James

  • Member since
    March 2003
Posted by Marie on Monday, April 21, 2014 7:59 AM

Hello , I have been following this post also and bought this kit what I  would like to know is what colors you used to paint your ship. Regards, Bob

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    July 2010
  • From: Tempe AZ
Posted by docidle on Monday, April 21, 2014 1:21 AM

She is looking amazing James.  Please keep posting, we do not see a lot of passenger ships around here.

Steve

       

 

 

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Illinois: Hive of Scum and Villany
Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, April 20, 2014 10:13 PM

Thank you for posting this build.

I was unaware of the Glencoe kit and am impressed by your photos of the basic kit and during assembly.

If the kit is ever re-released, I definitely intend to add it to my builds as my first ocean liner.

Would be nice if a kit of the Normandie was released.

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    February 2014
Posted by jamesatmaisonverre on Sunday, April 6, 2014 5:58 PM
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    February 2014
Posted by jamesatmaisonverre on Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:02 AM

Hi Kellau,

I hope you are well. Thank you very much for your kind comments, im glad you feel inspired by my post. That means it's doing its job. The France model is a good model and easy to correct with time and patience. What do you normally build?

A good cross reference for this kit against actual pictures as they can be difficult to make out is on the link below. I have found this very useful.

www.dvomarinedesign.com/.../france3d-page3.htm

I will be posting my paints used and the alterations made as well as resources. Best of luck with your build and if you have any questions dont hesitate to ask.

James

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    April 2004
  • From: Windy city, US
Posted by keilau on Saturday, April 5, 2014 8:25 PM

I look for your new post of built log every day and enjoy it very much. Thank you for sharing.

I do not have an ocean liner kit in my stash yet. The SS France may be the first one because of you post.

  • Member since
    February 2014
Posted by jamesatmaisonverre on Friday, April 4, 2014 8:43 PM

I hope you are all well.

Another good night for the build. A combination of going back over old stuff and new scratch build. I decided that i was not happy with both the rudder and the shafts so have decided to make my own. I ripped out the shafts and invert them in the hull to form foundations for filler. I also cut out the support for the new rudder from the existing keel which is correct.

Then i decided to correct the bases of the funnels and build the correct foundations. To do this i painted the tops of the existing bases  and imprinted on my favourite acetate sheet. I was able to cut and shape to the size i wanted for a nice effect.

I then painted the sections with base.

While waiting for paint and glue to dry i began to sand down my filler to the hull shape, i had also filled the huge injection mark at the bottom of the hull.

I then began to create my rudder which was made from multiple sections of acetate.

as you can tell, my paintwork has not faired well.

I then followed by creating the radar mast base and mounted over the existing mold. The radar mast also had a base attached so i kept it in form but sanded it down to the same shape as the mast itself.

I went back to my hull and base painted the newly sanded parts.

To finish i started to create the promenade deck windows by painting on acetate the devisions. Size is 1.9x.3 cm per the largest devision with 10 divisions in the glass itself. I fitted one just for effect. I used standard revell glue to fit as there are little fumes to damage the acetate. I inserted paint inwards to future proof.

Ant thats a wrap

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    February 2014
Posted by jamesatmaisonverre on Wednesday, April 2, 2014 7:30 PM

Hi All,

I hope you are all well. We are getting into the gritty stuff now!. The first thing i wanted to do was to paint the superstructure walls which come in two pieces and join up with the whale back wall and the fan tail. I spotted a little problem with them though. The over hang of promenade deck A is far too excessive below the bridge for about one third of the way back. I had to split the join and move inwards and re-glue which corrected the problem. It was a relatively painless task as can be seen below.

Before:

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After:

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Next up was the super structure frontage\bridge area. As can be seen below the windows of the passenger area are far too large and are not in the right position. I glues a sheet of acetate behind the windows for support, filled and painted the pieces.

Before:

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Middle:

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After:

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Next up was the beautiful radar mast. Glencoe has put indentations in the side of it for some strange reason, these required filling and painting.

Before:

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After:

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After this i finished the painting on the port hull. The exposure is a little bright on this one.

i911.photobucket.com/.../WP_000346.jpg

I started work on the superstructure on the boat deck by base coating it and have identified a few issues here. Before base coating i cut the symbolic rail out above the wheel house which came whol on the kit.

i911.photobucket.com/.../WP_000344.jpg

I also identified new base decks for the funnels need to be made as the ones supplied are too low. The cafe provencale needs to be completely scratch build and the skylight behind funnel number two has to be scratch built. I also need to examine in detail behind funnel number 1 as i think it might not be correct. The windows are represented very well though along the passenger areas of the boat deck.

The life preservers on the top of the house are molded to the wrong shape in between the funnels so i sanded do but not too low as i want to remember their positions for scratch built parts.

the superstructure repaired earlier will also require scratch built parts for the promenade windows as they are not included in this kit but will show you how this is done later which is tedious but simple to complete.

Here are a few more pics, alot of work done in four hours.

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  • From: Seattle, Colorado
Posted by onyxman on Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:06 PM

Very interesting build. I can't wait to see the finished product!

Fred

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    February 2014
Posted by jamesatmaisonverre on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 1:37 PM
Hi lads, thanks for your coments. This ship was definately one of the most beautiful ships ever built and a true evolutionary liner as you can clearly both past ship design and modern innovation which was replicated poorly in the qe2 due lack of funds, sadly. Her design also being replicated in the qm2 in a fassion. In the second last photo above i could not help seeing the normandie, might have the potential here. I wanted to do this build online because nobody has done this before for this kit and has received bad press which i think is undeserved. For a ship that nearly did not exist she went on to influence all ocean liners which is some claim to fame. When she became norway, she lost some of her best features such as the swimming pool on the fan tail and those fabulous cranes which were like sculptures. She also lost her balance when her funnel one was raised higher than her second when the appartments were installed. Its only a shame she did not have the same luck as the qe2.
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    April 2004
  • From: Windy city, US
Posted by keilau on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:56 AM

The SS France was a beautiful ocean liner and ruled the world (as the biggest built) for many years. I remember it well from my younger years. It is wonderful that you are posting your built. I hope to see this beautiful ship again when you finish.

For modelers on the States side, Hobbylinc has this 1/450 scale Glencoe kit for $40.

  • Member since
    July 2010
  • From: Tempe AZ
Posted by docidle on Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:08 AM

This is definitely going to be an interesting build and thanks for posting it!  I have never seen this model and so far you've done a beautiful job on her.  I am looking forward to future posts.

Steve

       

 

 

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Glencoe SS France
Posted by jamesatmaisonverre on Monday, March 31, 2014 9:18 PM

I kinda wanted to do a review of the SS France from Glencoe. Like most liner enthusiasts i constantly searched ebay for the airfix version of the ship but was not willing to pay the big money this kit seems to go for. So what does a person do???? Well to be honest i have seen the glencoe kit on the net and well to be honest was not very impressed to be fair. Living in Ireland, this kit was roughly the same price as the Minicraft Titanic which was even more reason not to buy it. An oppurtunity came up when my brother in law states side bought one for me for considerably less and the mission was on. Fortunately i am not a stranger to a bit of scratch building so was ready for some serious work on this kit to get it right. I had already built the qe, qe2, Mauretania, lusitania, titanic etc... and this was the only one i did not have so i was very determined.

I paid about 38 euro for this kit including postage. You get a very large top opening box Just slightly smaller than the minicraft Titanic but stronger. On the cover is a very bad painting of the ship herself which resembles nothing like the completed model. On opening the box, i was very surprised to see the familiar beautiful lines of the ss france. The model is very long, i was really surprised in the detail on the hull. To give you and idea of the size, she is roughly the same length as the gunze lusitania and that is big. In the box you get a single hull, one bag of parts with deck details and superstructure, two a3 pages of instructions, another bag of parts for funnels, flags and transfers.

On close inspection of the parts it became quite apparent that the ship was a very good representation of the ship with very good quality plastic, altering the ship at this size would very achievable and will make a beautiful addition to my collection.

The first thing i did was correct the position of the prow anchor hause pipe. Glencoe seem to have gotten confused between the anchor hause pipe and the towing hole in the prow. I filled this in and cut a new whole which is more accurate than the molded hole. I then added spare stock to make the towing hole

Next up was to clean the seams, flash and injection molds from the hull which line the top, rudder hole and a couple of the portholes.

Assembly of the rudder which glenco have designed to move was completed next and then the shaft housing which is inserted through the hull. These will require filler as they do not align to the keel very well. The bilge keels were also wrong as on the actual ship, they were in 6 sections. These were cut, shaped and sanded accordingly.

I also cut out the openings at the stern for the working areas for effect. This was difficult due to the supports of the upper decks blocking them.

I then painted the starboard hull, the fantail area and fore castle of the ship with the famous whaleback.

Overall so far, i actually think this kit is superior to the airfix kit due to its size and flexibility. I am very excited by this kit and am convinced i completely underestimated this kit. I know i have a way to go but i am very happy with the results such as the swimming pool on the fantail.

I think it is good to point out that if you are going to build this kit, make sure you only use the instructions for assembly purposes and use online research for everything else. Glencoe have designed the kit very well seperating the hull from the superstructure to give her defined lines but the colors and details are inaccurate and will need scratch build. I am not going mental on detail for this ship but am making an accurate representation of the ship out of the box as you will see. My build will be mostly based on on line research.

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