Ships In Trouble .

Any ideas about finding a Doria?

Please don't say paper.

That'd be nice by itself.

I guess one reason T-man is that those scenarios tend to bring us up close and personal with loss of life.

I know, how different is it from a plane sagging with bombs?

My youngest daughter (who shares dad's dark sense of humor) used to go with me to IPMS chapter meetings when she was younger. At one of her first visits somebody had built the Revell Titanic kit and brought it in. Upon seeing that she said, "wouldn't it be cool if somebody made it sinking after it hit the iceberg?"

Yeah that's daddy's little girl...

Part if me would like to one day do a diorama based off the final battle scene in "The Enemy Below" where the DE and the U-Boat are locked together as they sink.

Here's something I found that might fit the bill:

There a several Youtube videos depicting R/C Titanics that actually break apart and sink!

Hello Stik ;

   You know , I have forever had that scene stuck in the old grey cells .I have suggested that in the past .That's a goody .Here's one from another famous movie .Take Monogram's R.A.G boat and cut the bow off at a very shallow angle .

    Then put it in a water and reed base upside down with two acytlyene tank/torpedoes sticking out of it , put Mr Alnutt and the woman played by Kate Hepburn in the water next to her .The last scene before they are pictured on the Luisa before the " African Queen " has her say .

Hi Subfixer ;

Yes that's about what I was saying .A wrecked ship , albeit small

Hi G ;

   I am afraid that there is No Doria anywhere ;

You could modify a Moore- Mc-Cormack -  Brasil/Brazil/Argentina, ship From Revell and the Hawaiian Pilot for those two .

Here's one that sticks in my mind .In 1943 a ship tried to enter New York Harbor with 800 refugees on board ( that included the crew ) the coast guard removed the people because the ship was in danger of going under .She already had four foot of water in holds 1 and 2 . So Down by the bow . How do I know ? That ship is the one I arrived on as a newborn .        T.B.

That's an idea that I'll have to consider for my Reuben James 4 stack destroyer.  It was sunk during convoy duty just prior to us entering WWII.

Hi Ikari01 !

You are right , that would make a good one .    T.B.

That sounds like fun TB, in fact I have a tiny memory of me making a Titanic after the iceberg. It was done as well as a 9 yo could do but I did my best. I believe I could come up with several ideas.

Steve

Insanity.

Why not the Bounty burning down to her keel at Pitcairn Island?

Hey-

  I have been working on a diorama that I have wanted to do for many years, but the right kits were just not really available.  With the release of the Merit 1/350 USS Yorktown, I have started working on a scene of the USS Yorktown and USS Hammann  at Midway just before they were torpedoed.  The big Yorktown kit looks pretty dramatic at a 20+ degree list.  It was a bit of a challenge marking that waterline.   Maybe I should start a thread.

Phil

I can't find the articles but someone in FSM displayed Titanic sitting on the ocean floor broken in half depicting all the wear and tear of a century on the ocean floor.

I can't remember where,but I also saw a model of Bismarck on the bottom,might have been FSM also.

I thought about the Yamato, or Mushashi, since they found her. Hmmm, I have a "hanger queen" Yamato. That gives me an idea for the Japanese GB. And with all that silt, rust, sealife and destruction, you won't need PE   (thinking)

I remember an outstanding underwater shipwreck diorama at a Manitowac show several years ago.  It was a warship in the south Pacific, and the modeler had actually dived on the wreck.

You know, I believe I'm going to tackle either the Mushasi on the bottom, (depending on how much info I can find), or the Yamato on the bottom for the Japanese GB.

Thanks for the inspiration TB.

Steve

This is what greeted me the first time I entered Hong Kong harbor in 1972. It is the RMS Queen Elizabeth, the sister ship of the Queen Mary. I always thought that it would make a good model.

I know I have seen at least a couple of sinking Titanics and some nice dioramas of her on the bottom. A sinking Lusitania would be interesting. ( By the way, it would be the Airfix Mauretania you want to do that with, not the Queen Mary.) There is some controversy as to what the Lusitania looked like at the time of her loss.

Just in the last month, this showed up:

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/cv/cv-02/Lexington-700-mvg/index.htm

It takes a special kind of person to deal with so many 1/700 figures!

Fred

I can't ever get the hot links to work, so if somebody wants to re-post that as a hot link, go for it.

onyxman

I can't ever get the hot links to work, so if somebody wants to re-post that as a hot link, go for it.

Here you go Fred

1/700 Lexington

Thanks.

Aw , C'mon G !

Now there's a good scenario for the Aurora Black Falcon Pirate Ship/ fish - tank Bubbler !

Hey TOJO !

You are right . Somewhere in my files I have that issue too !

Thank You  Onyxman !

   I wasn't sure on that so that's why I made the choice I did .

Somebody could always try to do this in a model...

or this...

either one using the old Revell kits...

The Arizona would be a huge task...but very interesting. The sunken model at the memorial is just fascinating to me. I could study it all day. In fact, I think I did when visiting the memorial while I was stationed at Comsta Honolulu.

There's this, over at modelwarship:

www.modelshipgallery.com/.../index.htm

Pretty impressive.  

Sorry!  Steve already posted the link.  Next time I should read the whole thread!

The reason you don't see more "ships in trouble" dioramas is the same reason you see less ship dioramas in general - it's just more work and more daunting. People are less comfortable trying to do water, so they have to do that hurdle before they'll also work on replicating battle damage, etc. I think the more that we can do to de-mystify the techniques and come up with "safe" ways for people to experiment and learn, the more we'll see those cool dioramas.

You know Tracy :

You are right again .The last Dio I did was of the Cambell , U.S.C.G. -  WW -  2 picking up survivors from a plane . Sea state four ! Very difficult to do .The short time I competed it picked up " Best in Class " and  "Best ship Dio "  seven times .at seven different shows !

    None were I.P.M.S sanctioned except two , the rest were hobby shop sponsored . I know what you mean though .That sea was the hardest thing I had ever done and I am a retired Mariner whose been in some nasty stuff !

 My late first Missus was an artist who did Mythology scenes full of " Dragons and Elves " ! and showed me how to work with the stuff . Not everyone has that advantage !

I see enough beautiful models that are placed on gawd-awful water bases that I am reluctant to try it. I think I have mastered calm or rippled water, but any replication of a sea running that looks realistic has my utmost respect. Like tankerbuilder, I guess I've seen too much of the real thing.

Fred