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Posted by tankerbuilder on Monday, June 8, 2015 1:19 PM

Yeah ;

   Down at the bow and all the topside broken stuff . Gonna work the heck out of my parts box. That's a good suggestion , that ship isn't coming out as good as I want, so , I guess I've got a candidate !

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Monday, June 8, 2015 1:24 PM

Note;

  Where you've got your torpedo hole is good . Just remember the real force of the explosion would dent the bottom outward and the subsequent decks upward and inward some ! T.B.

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Posted by RobGroot4 on Monday, June 8, 2015 5:10 PM

The cardboard looks really good too, and it might be easier to bend and shape the way you want it, particularly if you go for ragged edges.  Great idea with the paper towel roll!

Groot

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, June 8, 2015 5:52 PM

Yes this is going to be a good one!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, June 9, 2015 11:02 PM

Thanks guys,

I did some more work on the bow tonight. I'ts still bothering me why I didn't see more damage on the video than I did. Maybe, as I said before, the ROV just didn't fly over the area, or maybe the hit locations were reported wrong, or there were some dud bombs, or the bombs just didn't do that much damage, or all of the above. The same goes for the torpedos. So with this in mind, I've decided to compromise. I do know there was the torpedo damage an dent on the port, and a crease on the starboard side from the bow slamming into the sea floor, so those I will show. The bomb strikes I will show as dents and some penetration outside of the citadel forward of turret 1. The deck on the port side will have been blown outward by the weakening of the bomb strikes, and the concussions from the torpedos. Of course, one day more pictures will come out and show me to be totally inaccurate, but oh well.
So here are tonights pics. After thinning the plastic, I used a heat gun and made a crease for the impact damage.

  

Thinning in the same manner, I cut through the hull for the torpedo hit and heated and dented the hull for the near miss dent. I kinda heated it up too much and blew through the plastic, so I glued a piece of sheet styrene behind it and added some filler. It should turn out alright. I'm trying a different idea for the metal this go around, and am gluing the aluminum to the inside of the hull instead of the outside. Well see how this works out. By the way, any interior bulkheads that will be seen will have more work to them yet.

The deck has similar work done to it, I just don't have any pics of it right now. I also added some interest to the barbette by making an inner sleeve and cutting out a piece which will act as the roller bearing plate. I need to come up with something to duplicate the roller bearings, and probably use some left over watertight doors from my PE set to throw in there to make things interesting.

Steve

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, June 12, 2015 10:44 PM

Another update, I a almost finished with the damage, just a few more things to do. I'm also going to add some wires to simulate cabling and conduits. I need to hurry. My computer just told me I had 14 minutes before restarting. Boy it didn't even ask if I was doing anything important.

Steve

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, June 12, 2015 10:51 PM

Great work!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, June 12, 2015 11:04 PM

Ok, now that it has rebooted, Thanks Philo.

Like I was saying, I still want to add some interest in the form of cabling and conduits. Also, I want to find something to simulate the roller bearings for the turret to place in the barbette, any ideas?

Steve

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:32 PM

M.C.;

   I replied to your post in autos . If there is an area that is visible as a flat vertical surface , you can cut out " Windows "  in the sides and then super- glue a piece of roaster foil over the hole  . You come back with a piece of window screen and press it into the foil before weathering .

 What this does is give an " Oil - Canned " effect to the hull sides from the gun and blast concussion denting the sheet steel between the frames and stringers .

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:35 PM

M.C;

. Computers never do the " Right Thing " You know that ! Now as to those pictures . Holy Horse - Poop ! ! That is one darned fine bunch of work .You are definitely going in the right direction ! ! T.B.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:09 PM

That's just keeps getting better Steve. I really do like the look of those decks. What are you planning on using for the cables.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, June 13, 2015 9:34 PM

Thanks TB,

I'll certainly have to try that idea. I used a felt wheel in a mototool to try to simulate the oil canning, the results were.... fair.

Bish

I am using small 30 ga wire strands and its insulation. I pull out the strands out of the insulation. I'm also using fine solder.

Steve

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, June 15, 2015 10:45 AM

I've got some picture updates from the weekend,

The completed bow and stern with the rust.

The completed bow and stern with the algae green.

And the bow and stern in their final resting places.

Next, I will get some expanding foam to fill the sea floor under the bow and stern, smooth it with acrylic gel, and apply the dirt/silt to the entire thing. I will apply the sea life after that.

Steve

EDIT, I still have a little more painting to do here and there, as well as scatter some debris along the floor.

Steve

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 15, 2015 11:12 AM

WOW, she looks fantastic Steve! Love how the rust and algae came out!  

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 15, 2015 11:14 AM

Now that looks really different. How did you do the algae, that does look really nice.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, June 15, 2015 11:45 AM

Bish,

After the "rust", which is a wash of acrylic Burnt Umber, followed up with a wash of highly diluted rust colored pastels, I sprayed light cotes of Tamiya J.A. Grey, which looks more like pale green, and Interior Green.

The silt should top it all off nicely. I will probably use 3M spray glue to attach the silt to the bow and stern, and a thin coat of Mod Podge over a painted surface to attach the silt to the sea floor.

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 15, 2015 11:52 AM

Right, got it.Its worked nicely.

Sorry if you mentioned this earlier. But its clear that there is a large chunk missing in the middle. did that settle much further away from the 2 ends or was it just blown apart.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, June 15, 2015 11:58 AM

Bish
But its clear that there is a large chunk missing in the middle. did that settle much further away from the 2 ends or was it just blown apart.

Well both actually.

Here is the side scan image. The guy is pointing near the stern. The bow is to the left of the stern, and the rest of the ship is the debris field in the upper left area of the image. I was pretty devastated after it went under, probably from implosion since a lot of the Citadel was still watertight.

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Monday, June 15, 2015 12:08 PM

WOW, that must have been some bang. I have heard of that while watching documentaries on other ships, so I did think it might have been that. But for such a big chunk to go like that, I would not have expected that.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, June 15, 2015 12:16 PM

MC (Steve) Man... you sir are doing an AMAZING job here. I am in awe, and anxiously wait the new progress pics... Bravo sir!

Doug

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, June 15, 2015 12:20 PM

Bish
WOW, that must have been some bang.

The survivors thought it was a magazine explosion, but I guess the "experts" believe it was more likely implosion. The magazines would have been flooded at the time she broke up.

Doug, thanks.

It is coming together much faster than I anticipated.

Steve

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Posted by scottrc on Monday, June 15, 2015 1:05 PM

Steve,

Looking at your bow and stern sections gives me the creeps knowing what carnage had to have taken place within those passageways.  That is a compliment to how well the affect you are doing at creating this display.

Scott

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, June 15, 2015 1:09 PM

Yeah, it was a little creepy making it and trying to imagine what it looks like.

Steve

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, June 15, 2015 5:11 PM

I will freely admit that I was skeptical when you proposed this. I've just seen it done many times with little regard to the scale and attention to all of the minute details.

You've really blown this one out of the water!

Ha, been waiting to say that...

A most excellent job, really well done.

Is there going to be a tiny little RUV with an LED spotlight shining on the hull?

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, June 15, 2015 5:25 PM

GMorrison
Is there going to be a tiny little RUV with an LED spotlight shining on the hull?

You know, I honestly gave that some thought. A wee little RUV with a tiny LED spotlight.

Steve

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, June 15, 2015 5:29 PM

When I take the final pictures, there will be a dark blue background with low light. That should give the impression of depth and darkness. I wasn't sure I could pull it off either, but I must admit, I'm pretty happy with the results.

Still thinking of the RUV.

Steve

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Monday, June 15, 2015 5:32 PM

Oh , Goody !

You gotta do the R.O.V. , you gotta . Now , must you be so good ? My comments on all of this is again , Holy Horsepoop , whatta darned fine job ! !

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Posted by gregbale on Monday, June 15, 2015 9:17 PM

Steve, this is really a work of art! Very impressed with your work.

{And my vote also is for the tiny ROV. That would be really cool.)

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, June 15, 2015 11:37 PM

I was working on the theory and I believe I can do it. The video shows the ROV pretty good as they pull it out and show the audience. It will be pretty small, no more than maybe 4mm in that scale. I believe I can find an LED that size and connect it to an umbilical that disappears toward the surface. The trick will be making it look like it is floating and supplying power to the LED. But I'm an electronic technician after all and work on micro components,  so I should be able to come up with something.

Steve

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Posted by RobGroot4 on Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:17 AM

Steve,

 This is really looking awesome!

Groot

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