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I am two seconds from throwing these Dragon kits in the trash

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  • Member since
    January 2006
  • From: NW Washington
I am two seconds from throwing these Dragon kits in the trash
Posted by dirkpitt77 on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:27 PM

I wanted so badly to build a ship kit. These Dragon Ticonderoga cruisers lurked in my stash for ten years, but they've been nothing but a pain in the @#%#$. Nothing has fit right, inaccurate fittings and moldings, etc.

Then, finally I get to decals, and the flippin' red and white caution circles for the missile launchers and the deck guns are wrong. The arc of the decal is not correct for the width of the deck they are called to be installed on. Way too big. What was Dragon's intent here? Are you supposed to overlap these to get the right coverage? Or am I missing something?

 

I'll wait an hour or two for any comments, but I'm boxing these back up shortly to go in the garbage. Not worth it.

    "Some say the alien didn't die in the crash.  It survived and drank whiskey and played poker with the locals 'til the Texas Rangers caught wind of it and shot it dead."

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:42 PM

More than likely the oversized decal arcs are to allow a "fudge factor" for adjustment. Better too much than not enough. I have had the opposite problem on some other ship decals. The Dragon Ticonderoga kits are some of their oldest ship kits, dating from when the company first started out. I have seen enough of them built up into very handsome models.

Do you have the kit with the early Mk.26 twin arm missile launchers or the later VLS equipped version?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    January 2006
  • From: NW Washington
Posted by dirkpitt77 on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:00 PM

I had one of each. I was building them in parallel so when they were done I could display the different flights of those CG's.

I just took them out to the garage and went "Office Space" on them. They are no more. 

Haven't done that in years, and I usually don't lose my cool over a kit like that, but I feel much better now.  Beer  

    "Some say the alien didn't die in the crash.  It survived and drank whiskey and played poker with the locals 'til the Texas Rangers caught wind of it and shot it dead."

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:01 PM

Oh, can I take them?

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:23 PM

Well that sucks. I gladly would have taken the Mk.26 version off of your hands. I already have the VLS kit.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    September 2003
  • From: AandF in the Badger State
Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:42 PM
Sorry to hear this. Poorly engineered kits are not good. I hope this isn't something typical of Dragon's ships. I have an Atlanta-class light cruiser waiting.

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
    December 2009
  • From: Laurel, MD
Posted by Tucohoward on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:38 PM

Sometimes kits need to be chucked. I have recently gotten into it and it does feel good. Cleared the shelf of doom of anything I didn't think I would ever get back to. Too many good kits and too little time to deal with crap.

Jay

The Mighty Mo says no.

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:21 PM

Good for you, Dirk Pitt!  It gives me great pleasure to throw out  a piece of crap, and start something decent.  I have done this many times!

Al Giordino

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: Denver, Colorado
Posted by waynec on Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:34 PM

hey STIK

 

fancy seeing you here. i have an Dragon early CG-47 i won't build. finishing up the Dragon Gearing DDFH. way over engineered 12 parts for a twin 20mm? does look better in the case and ilearned a lot which will help with Sino-japanese war ships.

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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    July 2014
Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, September 1, 2015 11:09 PM
I hope their Spruance, Ohio and Hampton is a little better. I have had those in my stash for around 15 years and was thinking about starting them in the next few months.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 2, 2015 12:31 AM

I've built two of the 688s/Hamptons. They have some inaccuracies, especially around the VLS hatches. But they build up easy enough. The new Hobbyboss and Bronco (I think) kits are nicer.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    July 2013
Posted by DURR on Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:33 PM

i am not going to but flashbacks of this post hit me when i took a heller 400th scale torpedo boat out of the stash to look at the directions to start it

it has railings but no inst. on where or how to mount and a couple other odd direction prob. ha

joe

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:53 PM

Yes beating my way through the brush to the finish line with the DML 1/700 Tarawa. It's funny if I built a second one I'd know all the tiger pits. Not going to.

It also turned me off once and for all to the always shady idea of "in the box" reviews, which I now call total *** on.

To hear what these guys said, and have a kit where the three main pieces don't fit together without going back and removing all of the non visible interior ejector pins, makes me reach for a bourbon and ginger ale.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:27 PM

I am currently building a kit made by "Kitty Hawk" and recommend you steer clear of them.  Nothing fits right, lots of flash, mistakes in instructions, etc.

An experienced modeler can make a nice model out of these, but beginners should beware.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

  • Member since
    August 2015
Posted by PlasticFanatic on Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:22 PM

Hello, DirkPitt77!

While sorry to learn of your frustrations, I have to admit that sometimes that's the best thing to do!

I am reminded of my own frustration with an MPC '71 Mustang Mach 1 model kit years ago that i was trying to build.. frame was perfect, engine detail was great, interior went together without a hitch, painting was a dream, and then I went to put the body on... first the body was warped, a 5 degree clockwise twist from right front to the left rear, that even dipping in hot water wouldn't correct. Then the rocker panels wouldn't clear the lower body, rear wheel wells and chassis. Then the windsheld cracked, taking an A pillar with it.

The model made an extremely satisfying crash and explosion of parts and wheels when I hurled it against the blank wall of my workspace.

Nowadays, i just would do a rapid speed-build of the offending model, then relegate it to target practice, and achieve the same satisfyingly destructive result.

Any more stories of crappy kits and mayhem out there? Do tell...

 

Randy

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