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Can youIiD this ship from this drawing.?

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Can youIiD this ship from this drawing.?
Posted by philo426 on Thursday, November 19, 2015 11:33 AM

Came across this drawing in a kit i got from the Bay.Can you iD it?     

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Posted by Hokey on Thursday, November 19, 2015 11:35 AM

Prolly wrong but I have seen photos of the Steamboat Clermont that looks very similar.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, November 19, 2015 11:41 AM

Well I have no idea, probably a product of someones imagination. Hokey could very well be right, although he means its replica. It's no doubt of some popular subject, and what is more well known as a paddle wheel steamer?

The other one that comes to mind is the Harriet Lane, but it's a more complicated and larger ship.

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, November 19, 2015 12:52 PM

Yes,I do like it and may try to make a model of it.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, November 19, 2015 1:22 PM

Yeah, Harriet Lane was my first thought, but this one's way too rounded.

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:21 PM

Not the Clermont -- Google is your friend

Period drawings & etchings of the Clermont are all over the map as far as masts,  superstructure, and rig details

From the consensus of 'authoritative' drawings I have come across, the Clermont was based on river boat/barge,  unequal masts,  and no deck house.

The drawing in question dates to later ship,  the 1830's or later  (IMO)

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:23 PM

I agree, I was saying I don't think it's actually anything, kind of an arrangement diagram.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, November 20, 2015 8:58 AM

I think the Clermont (North River) is still a possibility.  Most kits of it are terribly inaccurate, plus the ship did have some major mods to the deckhouse structures.  The masts and the lack of sheer fit the North River.  lack of engine may just be a way of cheapening kit.

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, November 20, 2015 9:26 AM

Well whatever it is or is not I intend to get some poplar and carve a hull and see if I can make a ship out of it.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, November 20, 2015 12:50 PM

I mean, whoever drew it had no idea what a ship is.

EDIT: I apologize- I have no way of knowing whether or not thats true, and it's beside the point.

The relationship of the shrouds to the lanyard assemblies that keep them tight. The paddlewheel doesn't seem to make contact with the water. The stack being in the axle of the wheel (s) the one place in the entire ship it actually couldn't be. The deck has no sheer.

Philo I know well you like to trim your sails as you alone see fit, and I think building a model of this type of ship is a good idea.

It's on a pretty large scale. Obviously there are no dependable scaling elements that I can see, but say the ratline spacing is 24". That makes the masts 60-70 feet high, the hull around 120-150 feet long.

I'd certainly consider getting your hands on a kit or some plans for the Clermont/ North River. Or our old friend the Harriet Lane. Round 2 models is selling both of those old Lindberg kits, the latter as the "Civil War Blockade Runner".

There's an old Heller kit of a paddle wheel ship called the Sirius that was a kluge of a kit called the Pourquoi Pas?, which in itself is a screw driven bark.

Good luck to you.

 

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, November 20, 2015 5:30 PM

Much to consider here!

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, November 20, 2015 5:31 PM

Yeah freak everyone out by building it exactly as drawn and let the experts chime in with their critiques!That would be entertaining for sure and good for a laugh when you kick the beehive!Good times!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, November 20, 2015 5:48 PM

I have an old Model Shipways kit of the Harriet Lane that you can have if you want, just pay shipping. I'll never get to it.

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, November 20, 2015 6:54 PM

Thanks!That sounds great!shoot me a pm with the details!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, November 20, 2015 7:52 PM
Let me know your address, I'll get the weight and shipping cost. Do you have PayPal? If so you would be able to just pay for shipping easily that way. It probably weighs 5 lbs.
It comes with a solid carved hull and paddle wheel boxes that need to be shaped but everything else needs to be built up. I got it about 20 years ago and wanted to start it several times but never did. All the parts are there as far as I know. I know Model Shipways has an updated kit out.
 
Steve
Edit: My mother-in-law at the time, bought me the kit because I was in the Coast Guard.

Steve

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, November 20, 2015 8:24 PM

philo426

Came across this drawing in a kit i got from the Bay.Can you iD it?     

 

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, November 20, 2015 9:15 PM

I sent the pm.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, November 20, 2015 10:19 PM

I responded to your PM.

Here is the kit.

It looks like everything is there.

Steve

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Monday, November 23, 2015 1:49 PM

Hi;

    Possibly a river Blockade ship from the 1860s . Note ;

 The paddle board is or would be in the water at Max waterline .Hull is somewhat too deep .  T.B.

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, November 23, 2015 6:21 PM

Thanks for the info!should I increse the diameter of the wheel or cut down the hull if I build it?

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, November 23, 2015 6:30 PM

If you look at the Clermont drawing posted above, there's some clues.

 

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, November 23, 2015 7:33 PM

Yeah much to modify here.

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