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Trumpter 1/144 Gato - USS Wahoo - GB WIP

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Trumpter 1/144 Gato - USS Wahoo - GB WIP
Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, August 6, 2016 7:57 PM

Now that I have a start on her, here is the back story of what I am attempting.

This will be a surface sea scene of the surface action of 27 January 1943 in which Wahoo was pursued and shelled by a Japanese destroyer before being forced to dive and enduring the ensuing depth charge attack down to 300 feet.  After finally evading, Morton sent a message to Pearl with what I think has to be one of the top five quotes of the war.

Pressure hull showing the mid deck and bulkheads.  Someone could do a cutaway on this one.

Forward hull painted inside, and the underside of the main deck.  Pressure hull installed as well. 

 

Hull glued up as far as the opening, and the rear marked and painted where the main deck will be glued down.

Main deck dry fitted to hull, still have some light sanding to do for a little better fit.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Saturday, August 6, 2016 9:04 PM

looks good I ordered this same kit to comparing it to the Revell Gato in 1/200 lol no comparison! But lm going to build it anyway I will be watching 

 

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, August 6, 2016 11:16 PM

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Hokey on Sunday, August 7, 2016 7:13 AM

crown r n7

looks good I ordered this same kit to comparing it to the Revell Gato in 1/200 lol no comparison! But lm going to build it anyway I will be watching 

Differences other than size?

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Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, August 7, 2016 9:54 AM

GM-  not in my lifetime this go around or even the next.  Don't have that kind talent, and for sure not the patience.

H- the Trumpy has very little flash and only a couple of rough edges on the some of the bigger pieces so far. Had to clean up about 10 of the smaller of the limber holes. Pin marks appear to be in hidden areas so far.  I would rate it a 9.2 out of 10 as far and moulding issues.  Have not seen the Revell offering in 1/200.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Monday, August 8, 2016 10:19 AM

Revell Gato sub is in 1/180 . This kit has been in my stash for about 15 years over some time I looked at it close up put back on the shelf . I guess it's time to build it lol 

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by Hokey on Monday, August 8, 2016 10:59 AM

crown r n7

Revell Gato sub is in 1/180 . This kit has been in my stash for about 15 years over some time I looked at it close up put back on the shelf . I guess it's time to build it lol 

 

 

So the only dif in kits is size then?

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Posted by crown r n7 on Monday, August 8, 2016 11:07 AM

the sail on this sub dosent match any Gato or Balao sub in service.but its ok lol

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, August 8, 2016 10:16 PM

Submarines are not usually of major modeling interest to me but in this case I'm going to follow along simply because the quote is from 3 days before I was born Big Smile and Lieutenant Commander Morton's sense of humor ranks him up there in my estimation. 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, August 8, 2016 10:29 PM

Yes, this got me too!

I ordered a Gato 1941, PE, a 3" gun and a bunch of torpedoes. I won't start my build anytime soon, but will be following.

Morton's XO *** O'Kane went on to command Tang, and survived her sinking.

Another Mare Island boat on Eternal Patrol.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 6:10 PM

I hope I can do Mush and the crew justice.  Hope they are looking over my shoulder and giving guidance.

 

The 1/72 I have will also be done as SS 238 , but will be on finials and mounted on oak in a case, with a brass plate-----  USS Wahoo - SS 238 - On Eternal Patrol - 11 October 1943.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 6:50 PM

YesOf course you will!

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 3:20 PM

Take a look at this I found!

http://floatingdrydock.com/guide%201a.pdf

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 3:59 PM

Nice article.  They sure made use of the cutting torches during the war to get the silouetes down.  In the pics I've seen of 238 coming into Pearl, Feb. '43 she has the nav bridge housing cut down for a 20mm mount forward, but the bridge has not been cut down, and apparently never got that mod before her loss.  The Trumpeter '44 kit has the right fairwater configuration for her at that time frame, at least that saves some work.

Thanks for the link, good read.

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Posted by Hokey on Thursday, September 8, 2016 3:00 PM

crown r n7

Revell Gato sub is in 1/180 . This kit has been in my stash for about 15 years over some time I looked at it close up put back on the shelf . I guess it's time to build it lol 

I just got the Revell 1/180 - Lionfish kit. Except the Lionfish was a Balao. I was hoping to build the kit as the USS Harder - but the Revell kit has triple rows of limber holes where the Gato/Harder (and others I'd like to copy) have just a single row.

I could attempt to sand flat the mold marks for the holes and creat my own but geez.....I was hoping to finish this year!

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, September 9, 2016 8:14 AM

There is a pic of Harder taken on 19 Feb 1944 in post refit trials in the Squadron Gato in action booklet (pg15)  that shows no limber holes down the side.  Also need to know where she was built, as EB and Navy Yard builds differed in limber hole locations and numbers.

Dealy is another of the very agressive captains of the day.  Ranks right there with O'Kane and Morton.  His 5 destroyer patrol is legend.

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Posted by Hokey on Friday, September 9, 2016 8:43 AM

What book, where? Online somewhere or?

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, September 9, 2016 9:27 AM

Squadron Signal, Warships #28,  Gato class submarines in action.  #4028.  Available from Squadron.  Plenty of pics, but that was the only one of Harder.

Gives a brief overview of the P and Sargo/Salmons them after the Gato's goes into the Balao's and then the various conversions after the war, ie. the various "Guppy's"

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Posted by Hokey on Friday, September 9, 2016 4:28 PM

goldhammer

Squadron Signal, Warships #28,  Gato class submarines in action.  #4028.  Available from Squadron.  Plenty of pics, but that was the only one of Harder.

Gives a brief overview of the P and Sargo/Salmons them after the Gato's goes into the Balao's and then the various conversions after the war, ie. the various "Guppy's"

Are these available as PDF or only order print copies? Are they worth the $$$?

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, September 9, 2016 5:12 PM

No idea on a PDF format.  IIRC it was around 15.00 + postage.  Some decent photos of different boats, with the different details during the war, and line drawings of the various fit of guns.  For me and my interest in the fleet boats, it was worth it.  Your mileage may varyBig Smile

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Posted by Hokey on Friday, September 9, 2016 5:17 PM

goldhammer

No idea on a PDF format.  IIRC it was around 15.00 + postage.  Some decent photos of different boats, with the different details during the war, and line drawings of the various fit of guns.  For me and my interest in the fleet boats, it was worth it.  Your mileage may varyBig Smile

OK thx!

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