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Difficulty based on Scales
Posted by Bocks Suv on Saturday, September 3, 2016 2:55 PM

So I just finished a commission project of a Trumpeter 1/350 Frigatge with PE and rigging.

Client is very happy and is suggesting another build. I really dont like the tiny plastic parts and most of the fiddly PE. I dont know about the different manufacturers, release dates and re-pops but would a 1/200 scale kit have larger pieces to work and be an easier build than another 1/350? Or am I settling myself up to just get more pieces, more detailed PE and an equally tedious project? Any tips and insights are appreciated.  

 

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Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, September 3, 2016 3:09 PM

I think most likely the parts will be easier to handle as with the increase in scale the parts are bigger. One problem I could see myself facing would be in that bigger scale, more detail would be required for it to look 'right'. I can tell you the difference between 700th and 350th etch is night and day as far as ease of use.

Eric

 

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Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, September 3, 2016 3:10 PM

Would love to see your frigate build if you havent posted it!

Eric

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, September 3, 2016 3:13 PM

Sadly, the answer is: depends upon the kit & manufacturer. Some of the 1/35 kit manufacturers are notorious for having high parts-count kits; others have far fewer. This is where reading the various online reviews can help.

To further complicate things, the selection in 1/200 is very sparse--far sparser than probably commission requests. There is a slightly better selection in 1/144 (larger still); but no where as large as the 1/350 selection.

And, if you feel stressed by 1/350, give a 1/700 kit an out-of-box go; 350 will seem HUGE :)

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, September 4, 2016 11:09 AM

Rigging in 1:700 is sure a b***h!  I put as much rigging as I could on Academy's 1:350 Cutty Sark, and it drove me crazy.  Compared to modern warships, the CS is sure small!

Even doing a 1:700 modern cruiser is a challenge!

If you use big diameter thread it looks funny- the rigging looks seriously oversized (it is). If you use tiny thread, like 5 mil monfilament stuff, you can barely see it and it drives you crazy.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Bocks Suv on Sunday, September 4, 2016 1:02 PM

Send me your email address or tell me how to post an image here. When I click Insert image I get a mystery prompt to Edit Image...beyond my abilities and interest in supporting the web that's more difficult than it needs to be.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, September 5, 2016 9:05 AM

Bocks Suv

Send me your email address or tell me how to post an image here. When I click Insert image I get a mystery prompt to Edit Image...beyond my abilities and interest in supporting the web that's more difficult than it needs to be.

 

Go to the Forum Technical Assistance forum below- down near bottom of forums. This subject has been covered extensively in that forum, so scroll down through the threads to some of the older threads.  If you do not find one, ask the question there.  Some really good people post on those kinds of threads.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by warshipguy on Monday, September 5, 2016 9:23 AM

Have you considered paper-card ship model kits? There is a huge line available in 1/200, 1/250, and 1/400.  These ships actually look great, and there are after-market products for them.  There are also sailing ships available, as well as merchant ships.  I have collected kits of most of the WWI German battleships and battlecruisers in 1/250.  And, you can easily rescale these kits to whatever scale you prefer.  You should check these out.

Bill

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Posted by fermis on Monday, September 5, 2016 9:31 AM

Bocks Suv

Send me your email address or tell me how to post an image here. When I click Insert image I get a mystery prompt to Edit Image...beyond my abilities and interest in supporting the web that's more difficult than it needs to be.

 

It's pretty simple, really...

Go to your other "tab", that has your photo..."copy" the "Direct Link"

 

Come back to this tab...click on the "add photo" icon...left click on "source"..."paste"..."OK"

 

Bing, bang, BOOM!

 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, September 5, 2016 10:40 AM

Thanks , Warshipguy !

 I started the Paper thread and Forum , with the hopes it would garner interest  . Especially among shipbuilders . I mean c'mon now there are more paper ship models out there in different scales to offer something for just about anyone .

  Yes , there are full  hull versions of some very large 1/200 ships too ! The Kronprinz is a monster at 27 inches and many many parts . Full hull too ! Then there is cruise ships , Well , simply put , there are many types , enough to interest anyone .    T.B.

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Posted by Hokey on Monday, September 5, 2016 12:53 PM
Which sub is that?
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Posted by fermis on Monday, September 5, 2016 2:43 PM

Hokey
Which sub is that?
 

1/144 Trumpy "Gato".

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Posted by Revenant on Monday, September 5, 2016 2:45 PM

fermis

 

 
Hokey
Which sub is that?
 

 

 

1/144 Trumpy "Gato".

 

How did you replicate the water?

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Posted by Hokey on Monday, September 5, 2016 3:15 PM

fermis

1/144 Trumpy "Gato".

Nice. Do you have more photos on forum? Or website?

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Posted by fermis on Monday, September 5, 2016 3:48 PM

Hokey

 

 
fermis

1/144 Trumpy "Gato".

 

 

Nice. Do you have more photos on forum? Or website?

 

Negative. I had a WIP thread here, but all the pics are gone, except for that one.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 5, 2016 4:56 PM

More work. 

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

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Posted by warshipguy on Monday, September 5, 2016 4:58 PM

Tanker,

Have you looked at the ships by HMV?  They are better than either plastic or resin in many ways.  The 1/96 sailing ships by Model Shipyard are simply works of art that excel many wood kits.  It's unbelievable how realistic these ships can be.  And, if you wanted only 1/350 kits, and the only available scales are either 1/200 or 1/250, simply print out the kit on your printer at 76% of the original.  If you were to duplicate the original on your printer with heavy stock paper, you could rebuild the kit as often as you wish. And, these kits are cheaper than resin, plastic, or wood.

Bill

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Posted by Bocks Suv on Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:10 AM

Not a chance. It takes a special breed of human to work with paper at this level and I aint one of them. At our local annual event there's a vendor who sells and builds paper kits and they really look amazing, as good as plastic and the printed camo and details are of course impeccable. Good luck!

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, September 6, 2016 5:42 PM

Bocks Suv;

  I do have to warn you . If you are intending to do more commissions , you better get used to the Hard parts of it . If not , don't wear yourself out . Take it from someone who knows . Minshipco is in it's 41st year now and these last two are it for me . T.B.

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