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Moebius Seaview 1:350 scale WIP

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  • Member since
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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, October 22, 2017 9:59 AM

CapnMac82

I like 1G.
Looks like how I want to remember the ocean (rather than some of the ways it actually looked Smile )
I like the way there's a transparency to the water in 1G.

 

Capn...thanks for chiming in. What you said supports how I see 1G. Also, it is nice to hear that it's how you would like to remember the ocean. I want it inviting... not scary. I imagine the ocean can be one very scary thing. If you ever want to share your perceptions of what you had seen...feel free to share them here.

Thanks again.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, October 22, 2017 12:12 AM

I like 1G.
Looks like how I want to remember the ocean (rather than some of the ways it actually looked Smile )
I like the way there's a transparency to the water in 1G.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, October 21, 2017 5:11 PM

The Quest for Color

So--part of this build requires color for the seascape. As usual... I have a vision in my mind of what I'd like to see. Imagine turquoise waters of some southern island sea. How do you give paint the depth of near crystal clear turquoise water?

Going into this, I knew that I would not get anywhere near to that, and that I'd end up with a two dimensional paint job. Trying to attain that goal was not even on my radar. However, it was in the back of my mind all through this process. That nagging pushed me to try some things, and, I ultimately stumbled on something that sort of mimics what I wanted. This is to a far lesser degree, of course. And, THAT... is OK. In my opinion, what I found is far better than the alternative that I was considering.

I'll walk you through the good, the bad, and the ugly. I warn you that you'll see some ugly testing. It's part of the process, so bear with me. To make this post easier for me, I created a key for you. Less typing for me, hopefully.

Key

SB= Sky Blue Tamiya X-14

CB= Clear Blue Tamiya X-23

FB= Flat Blue Tamiya XF-8

PB= Phthalocyanine Blue

 

1A) PB: This was the first color that I tested. I tried this color first because of the FSM Chris Flodberg article. I like the color as it looked in his article. In the example below it would certainly need more applications. I had thinned the paint because it comes out like paste. I'll be honest here. I think this color looks like garbage. Here is the thing though. This is the wrong color. Chris used Phthalo Blue. I had a heck of a time finding that color, and I settled on this. It is marked as red version. For the time being...I scrapped this option.

1B) SB: At this point... for the heck of it... I thought about trying a lighter color. Meh...me no like.

1C): This ugliness was I think a mixture of SB and FB. AKA... puke.

1D) SB, CB: Here is where some inspiration came into play. I decided to try coating the SB with CB, and then see what happens. I thought the effect was interesting.

1E) SB, CB: If 1D was interesting, how would multiple coats of CB look? At this point my interest is tweaked. The CB is adding depth to the paint. I studied this swatch a lot. I liked it, BUT, I feel it looks a bit too garish.

 

What next then. Just for grins I tried the CB on my first test piece where I had used FB. I liked what I was seeing, but, I needed to test things further.

1F) FB, CB: In this case, I flowed the CB heavily, and I did not brush the coverage out. I wanted to see how the paint would settle into the wave troughs. I don't like it. It settled too much and it looks like a swamp versus an ocean.

1G) FB, CB: Here I flowed the CB heavily, but I brushed the paint out some to keep it from pooling too much. I like it. In the right light and angle...it looks like you are peering into water.

1H) SB: Here I tried to concoct my own form of CB. On one side I mixed Pledge Floor Care with FB. I did not get the same separation as with the CB does. It went on like paint. I tried a similar thing using Windsor and Newton clear Varnish. I had the same issue. I scrapped this idea. Clearly, the CB has properties I won't mimic. 

  

So...I am going with something along the line of 1G.

More to come.

 

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:43 AM

 

Where am I on this thing…

 

Remember what I said about my plan to use CA as a transition at the bow of the sub, and, how my plans often change as I get into them? Well… the plan changed. 

 

Something odd happened when I was testing the CA. For some strange reason the CA fogged up. My experiences with CA has always been that it remained clear, and in this case, I need it to be clear. I mainly wanted to use CA because it sets fast, and I could build up the waves very quickly. So… this turned into a what the heck moment. I will tell you this though… I wasn’t having it. I was in no mood to tinker with it. Right there and then I had decided that a new plan must be hatched.  

 

What’s the new plan? Well… the CA is out, and clear gel is in. And, like I was trying to avoid, the gel is taking a painful amount of time.  It takes a good day for the gel to fully set, and, the gel seems to shrink a lot. It is taking a long--long time to build up the waves. What a pain. 

 

This leads me to my next point. Since this stage has turned into a real velocity killer… I am turning my attention back to the sub itself. While the seascape evolves at a snails pace… I am doing what I can on the sub.  You will begin to see some updates on that.

 

BTW… I suspect that the fogging resulted from high humidity. It was raining out that day and I had my main entrance to the house open. It was darn muggy in the house.

More to come…

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, October 10, 2017 5:19 PM

Lodni Kranazon
Looking good Bakster!
 

Thanks Lodni!  Last night I applied the first coat of acrylic gel. Tonight, maybe the second coat. I am researching what color of paint I will go with as well.

Slow but sure.

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Posted by Lodni Kranazon on Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:32 AM
Looking good Bakster!

[Admiring Starbuck's space fighter] Cassiopeia: It's a perfect machine! Born to dance amongst the stars! Starbuck: Yeah, it's bumping into them that has me worried.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, October 8, 2017 6:26 PM

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, October 8, 2017 1:16 PM

Thanks Max.  Yep...back at it. I can thank the comic strip that I made. It has filled the creative need that I was hankering for. Sometimes, at least in my case, I get lost in the details of a build, and that saps my creative drive. I am happy to report that the reservoir has been refilled. So, there is that, plus, it rained here yesterday. I do my best modeling when I am forced indoors. 

Today, I will spray the wave layer with PFC to set the waves. It's an easy low stress task that won't take a lot of time. Good thing because it's gorgeous outside. During the week I will work on blending the clear area with the TP layer.

I never would have thought that TP would become such a big part of a project that I was working on. It's like a bad joke...and who'd a thunk.

Hey buddy...that dio looks cool and all, but how did you make the waves?

I used toilet paper.

Ha ha. Very funny.  Now tell me...what did you use? 

I told you. I used toilet paper. 

Ok fine...don't tell me.

Or the other reaction may be... Yuck! Get that thing away from me! lol

 

 

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  • From: Parsons Kansas
Posted by Hodakamax on Sunday, October 8, 2017 11:10 AM

Ah, I see you're back into ship building. Good progress, It looks like this is going to work and well.

Max

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, October 7, 2017 8:49 PM

Thanks Capn. And that makes two of us about the paint.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, October 7, 2017 5:22 PM

Loos good.
Can't wait to see it in paint.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, October 7, 2017 4:56 PM

Well... I finally dived in and laid down the water. I don't have too much to say other than I did my best. I don't feel that it turned out terrible, so that is a plus. I will add that it was difficult to control the wave angles. The paper seems to have a mind of its own when wetted. I am sure this can be overcome with more practice. 

 

 

A few things that I can note:

1. The area at the bow is masked with frisket film to protect the polished plexi. I don't want any accidents. Re-polishing the glass and not damaging the wave layer is not on my list of things to do.

2. I plan to merge the TP wave layer to the clear plexi via CA and gel. I will use CA for  larger waves nearer to the TP, and I can use acrylic gel for smaller waves near to the bow. Then, hopefully, bring it all together by using some strategic painting. 

If it sounds like I know what I am doing... think again. Indifferent

That's the plan, but my plans often change as I get into them.

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, October 3, 2017 1:33 PM

scottrc

Steve,

Your comic made my day, thanks!

Scott

 

Hey Scott, glad to hear it! 

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, October 3, 2017 1:07 PM

Steve,

Your comic made my day, thanks!

Scott

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, October 3, 2017 11:48 AM

Hodakamax

It's good to see that others have my weird sense of humour, lol. Funny Steve! It's kinda like the military I was in which makes it even funnier. Business as usual!

Max

 

Glad you enjoy it Max!

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, October 3, 2017 11:47 AM

littletimmy
You have gone off "the deep end" good sir

 

Indeed! 

Yes--we may see more antics from the Seaview crew as time progresses. Stay tuned...but... please breath. Huh?

Glad you enjoyed it! 

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  • From: Parsons Kansas
Posted by Hodakamax on Monday, October 2, 2017 8:47 PM

It's good to see that others have my weird sense of humour, lol. Funny Steve! It's kinda like the military I was in which makes it even funnier. Business as usual!

Max

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, October 2, 2017 5:09 PM

                                            GLEEEEEEEEEE   !!!!!

( You have to imagine me squeeling like a little girl.)

You have gone off "the deep end" good sir.... and taken us with you.

All I can think of is........ just what did they have for lunch????

Holding my breath... ( we're under water so I have to )...  waiting to see what happens next.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, October 2, 2017 9:37 AM

Lodni Kranazon

ROFL! Great job, Bakster!Stick out tongue

 

And her is a fairly decent article on the USS The Sullivans:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_The_Sullivans_(DD-537)

 

Lodni, it is good to hear that you enjoyed it! It was a lot of work, but fun work. A nice diversion as well. I feel primed to tackle the sea scape. I had better move on it because the Admiral may just decide to fire some torpedos at me. Lol.

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  • From: Bronze Squadron - Battlestar Cerberus
Posted by Lodni Kranazon on Sunday, October 1, 2017 10:50 PM

ROFL! Great job, Bakster!Stick out tongue

 

And her is a fairly decent article on the USS The Sullivans:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_The_Sullivans_(DD-537)

[Admiring Starbuck's space fighter] Cassiopeia: It's a perfect machine! Born to dance amongst the stars! Starbuck: Yeah, it's bumping into them that has me worried.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, October 1, 2017 4:49 PM

steve5

damn you steve , I've got the hiccup's now LOL ,

steve5

 

LOL... Sorry about that.

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, October 1, 2017 4:41 PM

damn you steve , I've got the hiccup's now LOL ,

steve5

 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, October 1, 2017 4:33 PM

Well, as promised...Part 2. Enjoy if you will.

 

THE END

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, September 29, 2017 12:37 PM

Lodni.. Very good. If you are up to it. What do you know about this ship and what made it famous? I know a little about it but not much.

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  • From: Bronze Squadron - Battlestar Cerberus
Posted by Lodni Kranazon on Friday, September 29, 2017 1:27 AM

The USS The Sullivans kit as it stands now. Sorry that the dust is 1:1 scale! Embarrassed One cannot see it with these photos but most of the finishing of the main deck (puttying & sanding) has been done.

While I have several GB's going on right now, as I finish those projects I will turn my attention back to this famous ship. Captain

[Admiring Starbuck's space fighter] Cassiopeia: It's a perfect machine! Born to dance amongst the stars! Starbuck: Yeah, it's bumping into them that has me worried.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:26 PM

LT...buddy...I am crying laughing. This is too funny. Thanks my friend, I needed that too. You guys are really bringing it.

I'd like to stay and chat..but I have a production deadline to meet. I am hoping for Episode 2 to be completed by Sunday. So....go hug your wife, eat dinner, and get some rest. 

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:09 PM

Bakster
I think that Littletimmy will be happy to hear that episode 2 is in production. It should be released in the not too distant future.  After that, I promise, I'll get back to the project at hand.

( He sat paitently.....quietly...... hardly blinking..... for fear he would miss it.)

( "It feels like I've been sitting here for days" he thought) ......never moving.... for food nor rest. 

Finally the wife came over and said to him........" You're going to make you're friends think you're mental or somthing" !!!    "Turn that thing off and eat you're spaghetti" !!

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:02 PM

Lodni Kranazon

I have an old Revell "The Sullivans" destroyer that I cut away to waterline that has been languishing for about a year and your tutuoral has motivated me to get it done soon! Bow Down

 

I can certainly relate to the languishing. I am fighting that a bit with this build. This is why I went off into the comic relief. Seeing that you are getting some inspiration from what I am doing encourages me too. Thanks for sharing that. It might help me make a push through the next step on the ocean scape. If I can just get through that, the rest will be easy.

Keep at it Lodni. Keep in touch with how its going!

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  • From: Bronze Squadron - Battlestar Cerberus
Posted by Lodni Kranazon on Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:04 PM

I have an old Revell "The Sullivans" destroyer that I cut away to waterline that has been languishing for about a year and your tutuoral has motivated me to get it done soon! Bow Down

[Admiring Starbuck's space fighter] Cassiopeia: It's a perfect machine! Born to dance amongst the stars! Starbuck: Yeah, it's bumping into them that has me worried.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 27, 2017 5:08 PM
Greg—thanks for stopping in. Yeah, the comics are a fun diversion for me, and hopefully, a fun diversion for all of you.  
 
I think that Littletimmy will be happy to hear that episode 2 is in production. It should be released in the not too distant future.  After that, I promise, I'll get back to the project at hand.
 
Thanks Lodni... I am glad that you like my work!

 

 

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