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What's wrong with this picture?
Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, July 22, 2017 9:20 PM

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, July 22, 2017 10:09 PM

Not a thing. Thats a great photo. I'm getting ready to paint the blue on top of a bunch of aircraft already painted gray on the bottom, so thanks for the reference.

There is of course something a little unusual about it once the Essexes came into service because they couldn't do that.

I really have grown to love the Lexington class carriers. I'm working along on Lexington and am so impressed by what a leap in ship design they were.

Here's a preview of my next Coral Sea post. Kind of fits in with your picture.

 

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Posted by jrb53 on Saturday, July 22, 2017 10:23 PM

Isn't he launching in the wrong direction? Carrier island on the right, so he's heading for the stern. Not going to get much help/lift from the speed of the vessel. Big Smile

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, July 22, 2017 10:29 PM

...unless it's going backwards...

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 23, 2017 1:49 AM

jrb53

Isn't he launching in the wrong direction? Carrier island on the right, so he's heading for the stern. Not going to get much help/lift from the speed of the vessel. Big Smile

Jack

 

Thats what i was thinking. And whats with the audience, seems like theres somthing special going on here.

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Posted by damouav on Sunday, July 23, 2017 4:30 AM

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Posted by templar1099 on Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:32 AM

It appears to be instruction.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, July 23, 2017 8:27 AM

Hmm;

 Other than the fact he's going in the wrong direction ? I think this was part of a training session .

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Posted by seastallion53 on Sunday, July 23, 2017 8:37 AM

Couild he just be taxiing aft?

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Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:48 AM

stikpusher

 

Not a darn thing.  

Pre-Essex class carriers (perhaps not the Langley) had a design requirement to be able to launch aircraft over the stern while underway astern.

With the sailors & officers standing around watching,  this photo may have been taken during acceptance trials where the design requirments were demonstrated,

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Posted by scottrc on Sunday, July 23, 2017 10:07 AM

I think Ed is correct, early carriers were able to have to launch and retieve from either direction.  

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Posted by ejhammer on Sunday, July 23, 2017 10:19 AM
Yes, I have (had on PB) a pic of a plane landing over the Bow on Yorktown CV-10. Once I get to another hosting site I'll post it. EJ

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Posted by crown r n7 on Sunday, July 23, 2017 1:35 PM

The shooter is too close to the plane.

 

 

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Posted by David from PA on Sunday, July 23, 2017 3:18 PM

crown r n7

The shooter is too close to the plane.

 

And, also, looks like an enlisted guy. Shooters were (and are) officers. Makes me think it's a training exercise or something posed (i.e. not an actual launch event). Look at the guys behind the island in the background (the three guys standing just to the right of the shooter's right leg). The middle figure is an officer in khakis. Note the difference in tone (color?) of his trousers compared to those of the shooter.

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Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, July 23, 2017 4:04 PM

Another one in the series from Life Magazine.    It is the Enterprise from 1941.  He is not the shooter.  He's a plane director pointing toward the take-off position.   The shooter takes over from there.

Full power ...

and off she goes.   Note the cross-deck pendants for the arresting cables

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, July 23, 2017 4:22 PM

Yup, thats late 1941. The Blue Gray over Gray on the aircraft was introduced in Fall 1941, and they don't have the post Pearl Harbor markings of red & white rudder stripes and enlarged national insignia used until Coral Sea in May 1942.

Some fantastic photos in that photo series in Life.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, July 23, 2017 7:37 PM

Admiral Husband Kimmel, Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Fleet, ordered Task Force (TF) 12—Lexington, three heavy cruisers and five destroyers—to depart Pearl Harbor on 5 December 1941 to ferry 18 U.S. Marine Corps Vought SB2U Vindicator dive bombers of VMSB-231 to reinforce the base at Midway Island.[41] At this time she embarked 65 of her own aircraft, including 17 Brewster F2A Buffalo fighters. On the morning of 7 December, the Task Force was about 500 nautical miles (930 km; 580 mi) southeast of Midway when it received news of the Japanese Attack on Pearl Harbor. Several hours later, Rear Admiral John H. Newton, commander of the Task Force, received orders that cancelled the ferry mission and ordered him to search for the Japanese ships while rendezvousing with Vice Admiral Wilson Brown's ships 100 miles (160 km) west of Niihau Island. Captain Frederick Sherman needed to maintain a continuous Combat Air Patrol (CAP) and recover the fuel-starved fighters which were on patrol. With the Marine aircraft aboard, Lexington's flight deck was very congested and he decided to reverse the phase of the ship's electric propulsion motors and steam full speed astern in order to launch a new CAP and then swap back to resume forward motion to recover his current CAP. This unorthodox action allowed him to maintain a continuous CAP and recover his aircraft without the lengthy delay caused by moving the aircraft on the flight deck from the bow to the stern and back to make space available for launch and recovery operations.

Lundstrom, John B. (2005). The First Team: Pacific Naval Air Combat from Pearl Harbor to Midway. Annapolis, Maryland: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 1-59114-471-X

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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, July 24, 2017 12:45 PM

More.   Here is the Yorktown (CV5) doing 17.5 knots astern during acceptance trials.   Wind over the deck for a stern launch/recovery

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, July 24, 2017 3:10 PM

EdGrune

More.   Here is the Yorktown (CV5) doing 17.5 knots astern during acceptance trials.   Wind over the deck for a stern launch/recovery

 

 

That is about how fast she was able to get up to going forward before the Japanese torpedo strike on her in the afternoon of June 4 at Midway. That is after the boilers were back online from the damage inflicted upon her during the midday dive bomber strike on her. 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, July 24, 2017 8:26 PM

What's wrong with the picture?

Clearly, it's hosted on photbucket and being held for ransom.

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Posted by retdfeuerwehr on Monday, July 24, 2017 11:11 PM
Look at the pants legs of the deck officer: the wind is blowing them towards the stern.
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