model wooden ship planking

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Can anyone help me understand putting on wooden ship planking I would really like to build a planking on hull ship if I can't figure out the planking  there know point in buying one. I've watch several videos on this the more videos I watch the more confused I get.Anyone that has information really good books dealing with be much appreciated and any knowledge with this would be appreciated.

 

There is a book by a guy named Richard Mansir.  Called something like planking the model ship. Not an expensive book, but very good.

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help me understand putting on wooden ship

Well, by and large, there's two (general) methods.

If you are planning just a smooth paint finish after applying filler and fine sanding, the approach is different than if you which to replicatie true prototypical planking.

In the former, you fit the planks however they best fit across the hull form (I kind of like doing diagonal planking).  Filler is then applied and the product sanded smooth.  This can produce an outstanding hull.

"True" protypical planking takes a bit more work.  You need to measure the idships frame from keel to the wale (along the edge of the frame).  For an example, let's say it's 3".  We also need a measureent of the last full frame before the stem and the stern.  Let's call that 2". 

Let us suppose that there are 30 planks from keel to wale.  Thus, amidships the planks would be 0.1" wide; but, at the ends the planks are 0.06666" wide.  Mostly.

In reality, there might be 27 planks at the bow, and 25 at the stern, depending on the curves of the hull.  So, you spend a bit of time fussing and fitting.

As to fastening the planks, those little nails are rather useless.  Once you use treenails (pronounced, by long tradition as "trunn'ls") you'll never go back.  Treenails, trunn'ls are wooden dowels drawn down through a wire gauge to sleder dimension.  They will hold by friction, which allows for a bit of test fitting.

The European kit makers actually blend both of the above.  They provide a brod, soft, base wood to create the hull form, then a fine, thin, veneer to replicate the planks in.  Which is actually the worsr of both worlds cobined into one.

As to books, there are many, some are listed here.  Let me add one:  Ship Modelers Shop Notes, published by The Nautical Research Guild.  A wealth of good info in there.

Don Stauffer

 

 

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Can anyone help me understand putting on wooden ship planking I would really like to build a planking on hull ship if I can't figure out the planking  there know point in buying one. I've watch several videos on this the more videos I watch the more confused I get.Anyone that has information really good books dealing with be much appreciated and any knowledge with this would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

There is a book by a guy named Richard Mansir.  Called something like planking the model ship. Not an expensive book, but very good.

 

 

Ah, home now, on my desktop (with decent keyboard).  Book is called A Modeler's Guide to Hull Construction.  Publisher is called Moonraker Publications.

Start parralel with the top deck and work down.  Think of it as a curved barrel-fallow the curve,  up and forward to the bow. and taper the planks to this point. The easest way is to : put a short piece of plank amidships, then place a full length piece below it, and bend it up and around to the bow and stern.  Then take another short piece of plank and use it as a scribe guide--moveing it along the bottom edge of the upper plank, and marking a line on the lower plank.  Then revove the lower plank--whittle it to the pencil line, and glue it to the hull against the upper plank.  

What ship are you building ?  If you have not started assembling the keel and ribs yet, please consider useing this teckneek for full gun decks with cannons and carriages. 

Oh Good Heavens !

     A real decent looking model of the " Nautilus " as in Jules Verne and " Disney ".

 Where did you find her ? Is that a kit possibly ? or a very good Scratch model ? T.B.

Model Shipways publishes a nice booklet called Planking the Built-Up Ship Model by Jim Roberts.  You can find it on the Model Expo website.  

The www.Agesofsail.com  website offers a book called Planking Techniques for Model Ship Builders by Don Dressel that is also very good.

Santa, you have some outstanding ships pictured!

Bill Morrison

Thank you warshipguy, it's good to here from you agen.

I learned planking from Harold Underhill's Plank on frame models"  vol. 1  (vol. 2 is about making fittings etc)  and it is good.  It's good for hulls that don't have tumblehomes, like schooners and clippers.  But for building hulls with tumblehomes, the best book I found is "Planking the built-up ship model" by Jim Roberts. 

This is because in the first book, curves are cut into one side of the plank only so they form what loks a bit like an elongated R, which is the method I found in most books, and as long as there's no tumblehome it's fine.  But when there is a tumblehome, you end up with a "zeppelin" look unless you can get the planks to curve along their length.  This can be done with heating, but I found planks had a tendency to break when I tried and I gave up.  Jim Roberts teaches you spiling, which means curves are cut into both sides of the plank, so they form a sort of elongated S or C.  This means the planks rise up towards the bow and stern on the tumblehome and is much better.