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Zvezda HMS Revenge vs Lindberg Revenge

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Zvezda HMS Revenge vs Lindberg Revenge
Posted by Ghostphantom on Sunday, December 03, 2017 5:27 PM

I've got both kits.   I've nearly finished the little Zvezda kit (very nice it is too especially as it's very small) but I also have the Lindberg kit which isn't that far from being finished.   

They're both similar in size and look but I don't want to build another Revenge.

Let's face it many old Lindberg/Pyro kits were highly inaccurate but the Revenge is quite nice and one of the better old kits.   I'd like build the Lindberg Revenge as another ship though as I don't want 2 Revenge's, or even rename the Zvezda Revenge if the Lindberg one's more accurate.

My questions are does anyone know which is the more accurate kit of the Revenge and which other ship could I build from the least accurate kit?

 

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:49 PM

I have no idea which is more accurate, but the Pyro kit is probably pretty good. You say they are about the same size? Do you mean the real subject? Because aren't the models vastly different?

Another ship might be Raleigh's Ark Royal. It's not really close, but in general the same sort of ship and layout.

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Posted by warshipguy on Monday, December 04, 2017 5:26 AM

Aren't the kits based on the drawings by Matthew Baker?  Unfortunately, there are no records of the details for this ship.  All we have is Baker's starboard side profile of a race built galleon the is generally accepted to be the Revenge. There might be a sail plan, but I have never seen it.  My advice is to go with the model that looks best to you.

Bill Morrison 

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Posted by Ghostphantom on Monday, December 04, 2017 4:09 PM

GMorrison

I have no idea which is more accurate, but the Pyro kit is probably pretty good. You say they are about the same size? Do you mean the real subject? Because aren't the models vastly different?

Another ship might be Raleigh's Ark Royal. It's not really close, but in general the same sort of ship and layout.

 

 

Yes it has been talked about on here before and the consensus was that it was one of the better Pyro kits.   When I say the same size I mean the 2 kits are around the same size ....well the Pyro/Lindberg kit is noticably bigger anyway but still similar.  The Zvezda kit's supposed to be 1/350 so maybe the Lindberg kit is 1/300.

As for the Ark Royal well I'm building the old Pyro kit of that (i've been building it on and off for years so I'd prefer another ship to the Ark Royal even though the old Pyro kit's in all likelyhood very inaccurate).  Mind you I wouldn't object to a new Ark Royal from Zvezda in the same scale.

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Posted by Ghostphantom on Monday, December 04, 2017 4:21 PM

warshipguy

Aren't the kits based on the drawings by Matthew Baker?  Unfortunately, there are no records of the details for this ship.  All we have is Baker's starboard side profile of a race built galleon the is generally accepted to be the Revenge. There might be a sail plan, but I have never seen it.  My advice is to go with the model that looks best to you.

Bill Morrison 

 

 

Probably.   I suppose that sums it up really but I was wondering if anyone knew if there was maybe plans or writing somewhere that told of different figureheads/ carvings etc as the figureheads and carvings on the 2 models are different.  That's the main difference between the 2 models.

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Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 2:50 PM

I know of no plans for the Revenge.  However, Victory Models by Amati has a large scale wood kit of the ship that you might find interesting.  It is reputed to be an excellent model.

Bill

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Posted by Ghostphantom on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:42 PM

warshipguy

I know of no plans for the Revenge.  However, Victory Models by Amati has a large scale wood kit of the ship that you might find interesting.  It is reputed to be an excellent model.

Bill

 

 

 

Thanks I'll have a look.  The main difference in detail between the 2 kits is the figurehead.  Well when I say figurehead it's not a figure.  On the Zvezda kit there's like a pair of wings and on the Pyro kit there's just a curved piece.  Plus the Pyro kit has those curved pieces attached to the rear middle deck extension.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:30 PM

Neat illustration. No idea how accurate it is.

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Posted by warshipguy on Friday, December 08, 2017 7:43 AM

Bill,

That is a nice illustration indeed!  I believe that I'll check the old Airfix kit against it to see how it compares.

Bill

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Posted by Ghostphantom on Friday, December 08, 2017 9:21 PM

GMorrison

Neat illustration. No idea how accurate it is.

 

 

Cheers for that and agree it's a very nice illustration.   A possibilty though it's obviously a bit different to the Revenge.

One problem is I've stuck all the Revenge decals on the Zvezda kit and I don't really want to paint over them, and they're molded on the Lindberg kit.

 

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, December 09, 2017 2:20 PM

The Airfix model has no figurehead, just a beakhead ending with a flat top side with one scroll on the downward side forward. It is interesting in that the artwork on the box cover shows a winged something as a figurehead, but it is not represented in the kit.

Bill

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