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I Hate Titanic Models !

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I Hate Titanic Models !
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, April 27, 2018 2:13 PM

 I had to say it !

 I do believe the above named ship is made in as many forms as a B.F.109 or a P-51 Mustang . I mean how long can companies harp on the same ship !

 There are so many out there that for whatever reason sank in extraordinary circumstances  ! Such as the Andeae Doria .The Lusitania , the Normandie And so on .

   As to Warships , Well how long did we have to wait for the Indianapolis ! What about the better French and Italian Major ships . ? Not to many .

 Now you take this into account . There were many Lines during the fifties and sixties . Most on either coast . Carrying liquids and dry cargo . And even small ships going north and south along coasts all over the world !

 But no ,! they have to keep on witj that durned ship ! Come on there's more ships out there that were considered something else . Yes the Savannah is one , but how about the Morro castle for instance .

 Here's another for you . How about the ship that was responsible for the sinking of the Doria . Sure , a model of the ship that hit her ! How about the great Liner , Isle De France that was present for the rescue ! Just stop with the Titanic , Please ?

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, April 27, 2018 4:08 PM

Look for some of the older Airfix liner kits. They made a few. Wish in one hand and Censored in the other, as the saying starts...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, April 27, 2018 5:37 PM

Yer just cranky because you were late for the sailing at Southampton.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, April 27, 2018 5:42 PM

Here’s something you’ll find interesting.

http://m.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?n=lurline-coonan&pid=188769697&referrer=0&preview=false

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, April 27, 2018 5:46 PM

Aye, but TB made it topside from a stoker's apprentice in the boiler room of the Lusitainia in record time......Big Smile

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, April 27, 2018 5:50 PM

Pretty swift for an old tar with a peg leg, on account of that unpleasantness at Mobile Bay.

TB- pick up “A Night To Remember” again. That’ll whet your enthusiasm. It really is a unique story. Good movie too.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, April 27, 2018 6:08 PM

How about the SS Califorinan instead of the Titanic.

BTW there are 2 versions of a 1/350 Indy (Academy and Trumpy) and at least 2 (Tamiya and Revell) in 1/700 that I know of.

Steve

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Posted by EdGrune on Friday, April 27, 2018 7:03 PM

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How about the SS Califorinan instead of the Titanic.

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Thats available from Loose Cannon (east)

 

The Carpathia is also available from Loose Cannon

Oh, wait a minute.  These are resin and brass.  Totally unaccepatble as a form of modeling. ;P

 

While the Titanic is being bad-mouthed, how about in the same vein: Arizona, Missouri, Bismarck, Yamato, Enterprise ....

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, April 27, 2018 7:35 PM

EdGrune
While the Titanic is being bad-mouthed, how about in the same vein: Arizona, Missouri, Bismarck, Yamato, Enterprise ....

I don't mind those so much but I would like to see more British cruisers. Ajax, Achilles, Exeter Etc. (other than the old Airfix kit).

Steve

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, April 27, 2018 9:04 PM

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:40 AM

" G " 

 I do have a copy of that book . Given me by my Grand-Mum .The one that actually did miss the sailing ! Whatever the link you gave in this short message couldn't be linked on  , But Thanks .

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:44 AM

Oho ! I believe that ye might be a bit jealous ?

 That I did indeed rise from the firerooms of ships to the bridge is a fact . I just wish I could've done it all in the Navy .

 Tis a great feeling to look out at the Bow of a large ship and know you are the man they trust with her , the crew and cargo .

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:47 AM

The Canberra and the Oriana I have 

 What I don't have is the Californian or Carpathia in plastic ! I have a very bad allergy to resin , Period . That's a shame too . The Civil War vessels i would like to collect in 1/350 or 1/250  are paper or resin . Most resin .

 there are other vessels that could be built from , say the American President Lines ship-model , but she's to large and poorly molded

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:52 AM

Yeah !EdGrune ;

 Too bad they are resin . That's what I am talking about ! Are those 1/350 ?

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:59 AM

Tanker - Builder

" G " 

 I do have a copy of that book . Given me by my Grand-Mum .The one that actually did miss the sailing ! Whatever the link you gave in this short message couldn't be linked on  , But Thanks .

 

Back at my desk. Try this.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?n=lurline-coonan&pid=188769697&fhid=26209

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Posted by crackers on Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:02 PM

If you hate too many TITANICs, how about too many H.M.S. VICTORYs, CONSTITUTIONs and MAYFLOWERs ? That's why I prefer to scratch build model ships. One is not held captive to the limited types of model ships in the plastic kit market. If one likes a perticular model ship in which the plans are available, then one can break out of the plastic model box.

Happy modeling    Crackers  Big Smile

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, April 29, 2018 7:44 PM

Maybe a little  TB.   You have had a great life with plenty of success.  More to come, I'm sure.

 

That great feeling comes with anything done in life that happens and is recognized for what it is.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, May 04, 2018 7:43 AM

 Aye , Mr. Goldhammer !

 I'll be needing All ahead Flank now . This life has been Interesting , Heartbreaking and then Awesome . I think I can rest easy on this score ! I do wish sometimes I could do some things over or better . Oh well , that's why it's called life .

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Posted by ejhammer on Friday, May 04, 2018 11:11 AM

GMorrison

Thanks for that link. My dad shipped out for Adelaide Australia aboard "Lurline", April 22, 1942, and returned home in October, 1944 after 654 days of combat in and around New Guina. I wish there was a model of the Lurline available.

 

EJ

Completed - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, May 06, 2018 7:57 AM

E.J

   There is one close enough . You would have to do a lot of improving and some scratch building but there is a chance .It's the old Pyro , Now Lindberg ? American President Liner . The President Wilson and the Lurline had only forty foot of difference between them in real life .

 They were built to a type for efficient troop movement and then conversion to passenger trade for the line's to make back the money they spent to build them for UNCLE SAM  !

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Posted by crackers on Sunday, May 06, 2018 9:56 AM

If there were plans available, scratch building would be the answer. However, do not ever expect a kit for the LURLINE. If plans for this liner were not available, there are plenty of photos for the skillful scratch builder to copy a model.

Happy modeling    Crackers  Smile

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by ejhammer on Sunday, May 06, 2018 10:00 AM

Thanks TB.

I found three, a 1/547 Lifelike kit (vintage) for $115.00,

a 1/547 Lindberg kit (don't lnow the age) for $38.00,

and a 1/350 Lindberg kit for $34.00.

Do you have a reccommendation? I do have some fine pictures to guide me in making changes, some before the war and some during and after the war.

 

EJ

Completed - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by ejhammer on Sunday, May 06, 2018 10:04 AM
Thanks Crackers. I don't think I'm skilled enough to completely scratch this thing. I wish I was. I am able to do some modifications though. I do have pictures as alluded to in my reply to TB. Nice picture. EJ

Completed - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, May 06, 2018 10:23 AM

The middle one. Amazon has it for $ 25 or so plus shipping.

Our good friend has recommended this conversion before. I frankly am skeptical. Under the assumption that any hull is better than no hull, and that is kind of the original proposition of this thread; sure.

Everything from the main deck up would be new. Thats not an unbeatable challenge, but with liners it gets finicky with the stacks and curved deckhouse faces etc.

My question is this. Both the P2 Admiral Class troop ships upon which the President Liners were converted, and the kit which is based on them, have little to no sheer for most of their length. They look like big floating boards to me.

Our Lurline however has a fair amount of sheer, as do most good looking ships of the era. That makes the hull conversion a lot more difficult.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, May 07, 2018 7:49 AM

" G " 

    What you stated is true . But with careful scratch building this can be achieved .The Sheer isn't as bad a problem as the bridge area .The U.S.S. Dixie ( A Destroyer tender . Although shorter , has a similar Bridge . So does the Piedmont !

 The sheer is noticeable from a distance , but , I do believe it can be done . Yes , with this hull ! I have done four of the Dixie's for friends from here and one Matsonia which was smaller ( Shorter by thirty foot  ).

 I would say because of the scale it would be not be that big a chore . Many of thos older ships had beautiful sheer and other great lines . Only the true ship afficianado would know what to look for though !

 You have to remember " G " the wood models of liners are way out there in accuracy , Meaning , None ! At least with this old veteran model we can get close .

 It's like the REVELL Brasil, Brazil ?/Argentina situation .She was a Moore-McCormack ship of a size smaller than the Doria . But She is a good start to that goal . How many models of the Andrea Doria have you seen .  Or her adversary the Stockholm ? By the way . Did you know that in Portugal , Spain and Italy  ,Andrea is a male's name . He , Andrea Doria was one of their well respected Admirals or something like that . 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 07, 2018 10:27 AM

I did know that. In fact, there were two U.S.S. Andrew Dorias.

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Monday, May 07, 2018 1:20 PM

I have to agree with TB. Like Titanic, ships like the Bismarck, Yamato, Missouri, Victory, Constitution, etc., are over represented in the plastic ship modeling industry.  Companies like Trumpeter and DML/Dragon are godsends for producing other ships.  I wish that other companies would follow suit and steer away from the overly recognizable names.

Bill

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 07, 2018 2:45 PM

I've concluded that for a long time selected subjects have been either museum or "famous/ infamous" ships.

Ships that starred in movies do OK too. 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, May 07, 2018 6:13 PM

GMorrison
Ships that starred in movies do OK too. 

LOL we need the Posiden! Wait, I'll bet someone makes it in resin.

Steve

ON THE BENCH

1/35 Hobby Boss Fieseler Storch
1/72 Hasegawa Nell
1/48 Tamiya Swordfish
1/350 Tamiya Prince of Wales

In Que

1/700 Tamiya King George V

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 07, 2018 9:50 PM

Comes with a little Shelley Winters fig.

Hasegawa for a while made models of ships the IJN sank, like the Gambier Bay.

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