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revell pilgrim ship 1/83 mayflower
Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:48 PM

time for a new ship , this should be a relatively quick build , but it look's like a fun one , it won't be up to bakster's immaculate standard , I'm going to enjoy myself .

while I was at my LHS picking up supplies , these two beauties were on special . what was I to do

 

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Posted by surfsup on Sunday, September 15, 2019 1:17 AM

You could have left them there and the Shop could have Babysat them for you. No need to add more clutter.....LMAO. Besides the fun and frivolity you should do a very nice job on the Mayflower. Will watch with interest.....Cheers mark

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Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, September 15, 2019 3:50 PM

steve5
while I was at my LHS picking up supplies , these two beauties were on special . what was I to do

Yea, I have the same problem when I visit the Animal Shelter......... all the kitty's MUST come home with me !

I almost bought the 1973 release of this kit, just a few week's ago.  ( My wife decided that since I already had 4 kit's in my hand's, that I should leave one for someone else.)

 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, September 15, 2019 7:33 PM

I got the same response from my better half , except she said 2 was enough

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, September 15, 2019 10:19 PM

Hand her $ 50 and send her over to Macys.

My gosh, what a haul.

It's always a good thing to see another P Liner. That one was the Padua. How many more Preussens and Pamirs does the world need?

I have never seen the Condorcet model. That one has me interested.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, September 15, 2019 10:22 PM

littletimmy

ave the same problem when I visit the Animal Shelter......... all the kitty's MUST come home with me !

"How do you recommend I cook this?".

Borat

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, September 16, 2019 5:07 AM

I couldn't pass it up bill , $85 au , about $60us .

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, September 16, 2019 9:13 AM

In my experience, no three or more mast, ship rigged model is a quick build.  Battleship does look like more likely quick build.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, September 16, 2019 4:44 PM

What I meant Don was , it should only take a couple of months , not years, like the victory has

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 16, 2019 6:06 PM

Hey Steve, can’t wait to see you start. Yours will better than mine, guaranteed.

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:33 AM

finally got it started , MM dk tan on the main hull , tamiya colours for the stripes , will get on with the weathering in the next few day's . 

I still remember all the testing you did in your's mate , I learnt a fair bit then steve .

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:27 AM

steve5

What I meant Don was , it should only take a couple of months , not years, like the victory has

 

Ah, that makes sense.  I have that Mayflower kit so will be following this thread closely.  Amazing how many photos I found on Google images of the reproduction.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:20 PM

steve5
inally got it started , MM dk tan on the main hull , tamiya colours for the stripes , will get on with the weathering in the next few day's . 

Looks good, Steve.

steve5
I still remember all the testing you did in your's mate , I learnt a fair bit then steve .

Yeah buddy--I learned a bunch too with help by others. People like John Tilley, GM, and many others. I still plan to resurect that project but probably not for 2 to 3 years. Too many other projects that I want to finish first. 

My one piece of advice to you, glue the transom well, it likes to pop. I used epoxy for good measure and it still popped. Confused

Have fun with this.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:36 PM

One of these days I’ll up and buy Dr. Graham’s “Remembering Revell Model Kits”.

I believe he states that the model was developed from the same compiled drawings and specifications that were used to design and build Mayflower II.

Those in turn were created by the famous naval architect William Baker professor at MIT based on generic ship design of the period and previous studies at reconstructions. He was originally commissioned to do so by Project Mayflower at the Plimoth Plantation. That was an initiative on this side of the waters.

A British historian whose name escapes me right now independently conceived of the idea to build the ship as a tribute to our combined alliance in the war.

These two groups joined forces and the ship was built in 1956.

Its a marvelous, if small, ship well worth the trip to see.

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Posted by freem on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:22 PM

I too will be keeping an eye on this build. I picked Mayflower up at Hobby Lobby in Buffalo, NY a couple of days after my granddaughter was born (first grandchild) in 2014, so there's some sentimental value and I am really fascinated with early American history.

Chris Christenson

 

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 12:59 AM

chris - thank's mate , glad to have you along

G - love your history lessons , we're never too old to learn

steve - this is a layer of oil wash , [burnt umber] , it has toned it down a bit , still a bit too smooth , might have to look your old log up .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 1:40 AM

found your old log mate , photobucket , all the pic's are blurred out .

what do you think of a black wash ? , or a light coat of tamiya DK brown panel liner 

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 7:21 PM

GM,

In response to your question about P-Liners, I took Heller's Cap Horn,which was actually their Preussen rekitted as a 5-masted barque, and built it (with appropriate mods) as the P-Liner Potosi.  Whereas Cap Horn never existed, Potosi was real and had not ever been marketed as a ship model kit.  It is an interesting addition to my collection!

Bill

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 8:22 PM

steve5

found your old log mate , photobucket , all the pic's are blurred out .

what do you think of a black wash ? , or a light coat of tamiya DK brown panel liner 

 

Hi Steve, what you have done so far looks good. I wish I could give you some advice about using a wash here, but in the end, I didn’t use a wash.

My first test was with using stain over MM Acrylic Wood. That produced a beautiful appearance like new varnished wood. By itself it looked great, but I was looking for a weathered look, so I migrated to using a salt finish. I started with a darker base color, applied the salt, over-sprayed with a lighter color, then removed the salt. The end result was a blotchy appearance, a sort of aging effect. After that I sprayed a top layer of color to push the blotches back into the model just enough to leave a hint of blotchiness. That got me where I wanted to be. My only regret is that on the final color layer I should have used a lighter color. The hull came out kind of dark, and when I do this again, I will go lighter.

The only time I used washes was with the decking, so with that said, I don’t know if any of this helps you. If my method doesn’t strike you, maybe the David K or Docidle school of thought will. 

Before the night is out I will find and post an image of my model just before I punted. Maybe that will help you decide.

Updated: During my testing I did experiment with using oil paints, so maybe that is what you are thinking of. I couldn't get it to work to my liking, and that is what sent me to trying a salt method.

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 8:26 PM

Steve, here is one of the last images I took. My camera lightened up the color more than it actually is. I really like how it looks in this image, but it’s not entirely accurate. 

 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:59 PM

Thanks Bill , do you have any pics , would like to see it .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:49 AM

I remember now that you have reminded me of your salt method , with wood stain . I couldn't use that because I had all those colours on the  sides . so I did a couple of layers , gloss coat , layer of DK brown tamiya panel liner . with a final layer of humbrol flat clear . I am seeing the individual panels on the hull now . not as oakish as yours , pity , but with that aged look , getting there . the stern I haven't done yet as there is a few gap's which will have to be filled and sanded . I will do them then . the model is not this shiney just the light .

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 19, 2019 9:33 AM

Hey Steve-  with your closeup shots I can see the panel line/grain work. It looks good.

I hear you about the shiny. I had a heck of a time showing the work as it looks. My camera loved to shift colors, erase detail, and produce glare that was not visible to your eye. It's frustrating. 

I like what I see, my friend. Looking good! Yes

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, September 22, 2019 4:54 AM

finally got around to glueing the hull together , starting to look like a ship '

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, September 22, 2019 9:45 AM

Yes it is Steve.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, September 23, 2019 8:45 AM

Looking great!

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:54 AM

couldn't believe it , turned around and snapped the bow support off , easy fix , just a pain in the preverbial . just drilled a .8mm hole with some same gauge brass rod .

and a quick update shot

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:00 AM

Steve, forgive me for laughing but I broke the bowsprit twice. I eventually left it broke until I was done manhandling the hull. 

Nice fix sir, and looking good!

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:59 AM

It's a good idea to put the model on a temporary build base. I make cheap ones up that give me the ability to lay the model on it's side.

fox
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Posted by fox on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:31 PM

Looking good Steve! Keep the pics coming.

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