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Nothing Special. Just the Last and the First and Only !

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  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Nothing Special. Just the Last and the First and Only !
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, November 8, 2019 10:24 AM

Hi Ya'll;

      I know, Aw Jees he's harping on this again. Well, not really. I was watching Modern Marvels and they re-did the Program about the Queen Mary. Okay,Okay. I failed to remember how much military history took place on her. besides I wasn't aware " Winnie" used her as his floating " War Room " too.

     Okay I give up, Historically she's has a history For England! The S.S. United States only claim to Fame is three fold. The last Great Ocean Liner Built IN the States.The laste great lady to claim the " Blue Riband " for the fastest crossing of the Atlantic. and The most Fire-resistant ship ever built!

    Now in our rich maritime History What else is there on the Civilian side? many " Bottoms" ( Marine speak)" of ours were the lifeline during and many years after the war. C-3s and subsequent types were able to rebuild Trans-Atlantic Traffic till everyone else caught up. 

    We got a bright idea during the Doesn't America have a love affair withthe Atom years!

 We saw the only ship of it's type built and operated under the American Flag. Yes-The N.S.Savannah! Truly gorgeous in both her lines and the hope that she would be the first to take our civilian maritime service to the top of the heap. And carry passengers too !

    Okay the first and only, Doesn't that really rate something? I won't mention this for a while I promise. I just cannot in all fairness fail to  let you all know that civilian and military sea history in this country should be remembered too. Yes, I approve of any and all we can put on display. Yes , It costs nowadays a Bundle of Bucks. Lotsa Bundles of Bucks. Just think, New Conference centers and Hotels created from already existing platforms. Hmmm. The U.S.S. Nimitz Hotel and Convention Center. Sounds good to me .Think of all the naval museum space too! ( Just an example there) .    T.B.     P.S. And the really wealthy can land on the roof too!

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, November 8, 2019 11:01 AM

I've always liked the idea of making our ship history into hotels. The revenue would pay for their upkeep and they would preserve maritime and naval history.

Good idea TB, write your congressman.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, November 8, 2019 11:19 AM

There would be a huge cost to make those old ships ADA compliant. Sort of impossible.

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, November 8, 2019 1:46 PM

Modelcrazy;

   Concerning A/C Carriers I have .There's not much you can do with a cruiser, Battleship or Sub though. Now this is an idea. Some of the support ships like the U.S.S.Dixie and Piedmont have big side doors in the hull and elevators inside. So it wouldn't take much to ADA them.

      On ships , because civilian ships have very little of that in passenger and crew areas that wouldn't be a problem. I have seen an ADA elevator replace a stairway. Most military ships have W/T doors for survivability. I believe authenticity can still be achieved without defiling the vessel to a degree it's NOT historical.

   If I am correct I believe ships have different rules concerning that.  Unlike a Rail Station which Because it's a building, needs ADA compliance, but even then there are limitations.

    There can even be entries into the hull engineering spaces that are safer than the ones used for the crew without marring the effect or reality of the area. 

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, November 8, 2019 1:47 PM

" G " ;

      See my answer to Modelcrazy. We made some mods to the Hornet and she's getting along with everybody just fine.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, November 8, 2019 2:33 PM

If it's a hotel, or other commercial use, it's going to be compliant unless an exemption is given. Also, as we discussed before, the SS United States is "fire proof", following the Normandie disaster, because there are no wood fittings.

A friend of mine (college roomate previously) worked on some schemes for her and had drawings. Very narrow corridors and a lot of shear.

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  • From: San Antonio, Texas
Posted by Marcus McBean on Monday, November 11, 2019 5:53 PM

GMorrison

If it's a hotel, or other commercial use, it's going to be compliant unless an exemption is given. Also, as we discussed before, the SS United States is "fire proof", following the Normandie disaster, because there are no wood fittings.

A friend of mine (college roomate previously) worked on some schemes for her and had drawings. Very narrow corridors and a lot of shear.

 

If their was a market for these types of hotels there would be a lot more.  Very few retired ships offered the comfort people are looking for.  I wonder if the Queen is making money as a hotel or as a tourist attraction.

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 12:15 PM

Hi There, Marcus!

 

  I am not sure ,But I think it's more a tourist and hotel thing than any thiing else. Imagine -" Oh, We stayed on the Queen Mary while we were there "

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