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GMorrison

A joke. One of the buttons on the imgur page.

 

Ahh I'm still new with imgur. 

A joke. One of the buttons on the imgur page.

GMorrison

Well done display. Brings across how logistically nuts that whole thing was, to see it in color.

WTF the girl in the sling though...

 

im not sure what you mean with the girl in the sling 

Well done display. Brings across how logistically nuts that whole thing was, to see it in color.

WTF the girl in the sling though...

Hope this link works, but here's the finished Ship.

https://imgur.com/vZ56Fh6

https://imgur.com/gallery/fA63G7b

Thanks for the info. guys.  This forum is awesome, a better source of info than any library.

Happy Building.

stikpusher

Yes, the deck on catwalks and gun tubs should be Deck Blue.

Here is a link to the Navsource photo gallery on USS Hornet CV-8. Have a look for yourself for lots of great reference.

 

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/08.htm

 

thank you

Yes, the deck on catwalks and gun tubs should be Deck Blue.

Here is a link to the Navsource photo gallery on USS Hornet CV-8. Have a look for yourself for lots of great reference.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/08.htm

GMorrison

All horizontal surfaces are Deck Blue.

Some parts of the island aren't really decks, but overhead, roofs if you will. 

Look through Navsource at the Yorktowns. 

Bill

 

So even where the anti aircraft guns would be on the side of the deck would be deck blue? 
thank you 

All horizontal surfaces are Deck Blue.

Some parts of the island aren't really decks, but overhead, roofs if you will. 

Look through Navsource at the Yorktowns. 

Bill

Final question, when it comes to the top of the island would the color just be the gray that is lighter, or would it still be the gray color that is being camouflaged and broken up by the blue. Same question but for where the anti aircraft guns are mounted would that area just be the same grey as what is painted on the side? I hope this all makes sense what I'm asking? What color would it be if i was looking down at the deck,  jnow the deck is deck blue but the island has a different base color from the hull. So the gang planks and the top of the island would have the same base color right ?

look at the Booklet of General Plans for the Yorktown class as it appears to be 7 boards between the tie down strips.

CV-5 – USS Yorktown – Booklet of General Plans, 1940, Yorktown Class https://www.hnsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/cv5.pdf

I seem to remember that they were 6" wide Douglas Fir. I dont know the number between the tie down strips. Probably varied from class to class.

Sorry guys, I don't want to disrupt your discussion but I'm getting a lot of good color info here.  I'm wondering if any of you may know how wide the deck planks were on carriers?  I'm building a base for a Corsair diorama and would like to get that detail right if possible.  Thanks to your discussion I have the color info I need.  From pictures I would guess either 6 or eight inches but if someone knows differently I would appreciate the info.

Happy Building!

There's an SBD in the mix as well, starboard side about halfway back. Remember at that time the Dauntless was used for CAP as well as scout/ bomber.

There is one photo of The Hornet with 5 F4F-4 Wildcats on the forward deck, just in case. However, there are other photos of Wildcats mixed in with the B-25s. Supposedly there were 25 more on the hanger deck.

Yes good on you, the Vindicator.

My late folks had a neighbor who was a Marine pilot of same.

Bill

GMorrison

I forget, is that CV-6?

The only modern USN aircraft with folding wings of any quantity before about April 1942 were the TBDs.

If you study the photos available of the Doolittle Raid, there were a group of F4F-4s up at the bow earlier in the attack sortie.

 

Bill

 

 

Yes, that’s The Big E, CV-6. Different shape to the second platform up than CV-5.

The other carrier based USN aircraft with folding wings was the SB2U. I believe than Ranger and Wasp had their VB and VS squadrons equipped with those until summer 1942.

I forget, is that CV-6?

The only modern USN aircraft with folding wings of any quantity before about April 1942 were the TBDs.

If you study the photos available of the Doolittle Raid, there were a group of F4F-4s up at the bow earlier in the attack sortie.

Bill

CapnMac82

For really subtle, the prewar carrier wooden decks were stained a reddish "mahogany" color.  Blue stain did not go down until December 1941. 

They were mahogany indeed... Mahogony with Chrome Yellow markings 

But I think that the Flight Decks were stained blue before then. The switch was made to Blue Gray uppers on carrier based aircraft from overall Light Gray because they stood out from the blue decks and compromised the camo color. This is why the lower surfaces of folding wings visible from above were also painted in the Blue Gray.

stikpusher

That makes sense. So then would the paint on the framing be Deck Blue? My semi educated wild a$$ guess says that.

That's a subtle detail that ight be worth chasing on 1/48 or 1/32 deck sections.

The tie-down strips and edge details probably ought to be a tad glossier to scan metallic versus the wooden planking.

For really subtle, the prewar carrier wooden decks were stained a reddish "mahogany" color.  Blue stain did not go down until December 1941.

Tankluver

paint instructions for trumpeter

Fromm all observations, the person responsible for trumpy's paint instructions involve a ouija board, and an excess of inhaled solvents.

USN was consistent in its use of Deck Blue (or the equivalent stain) through virtually all the Camoflauge Measures.  All horizontal deck surfaces exposed to view above wer so painted.  (Signals platforms would get linoleum for better traction, prewar those were chestnut, during ,they were painted blue.)

The N250 and 20N were nearly the same hue.  The metal decks hled the color pretty well; the wood decks would "wear" a bit.  after staining the revealed color was a charcoal to silver gray.

Trumpeter instructions- follow them for the build, do your own research for all colors.

Shipwreck

 

 

Tankluver

 The Doolittle raid paint instructions for trumpeter are calling for the isalnd to be painted with the sea blue as well. That's a very nice photo there is that prior to departure? Not sure why the instructions would make that big of a mistake. Thank you for the photo And clarification !

 

 

 

 

If you do enough research on the Hornet, you will probably conclude that the Trumpeter paint instructions are not very accurate; but close enough to make a fine model.

 

That is the conclusion i was coming to as well! Thanks for the information guys Ive been slowly diving into ship building coming from armor. I find that a lot of trumpeter kits don't give you a unit and time or place on there directions it's a little frustrating to be honest.

Tankluver

 The Doolittle raid paint instructions for trumpeter are calling for the isalnd to be painted with the sea blue as well. That's a very nice photo there is that prior to departure? Not sure why the instructions would make that big of a mistake. Thank you for the photo And clarification !

If you do enough research on the Hornet, you will probably conclude that the Trumpeter paint instructions are not very accurate; but close enough to make a fine model.

Go to the NAVSOURCE page on the Hornet

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/08.htm

There are multiple pix of the Hornet which show the island.  Granted, there  is a color one which shows the island marked in a darker gray.  If you look down on the hull you will see obvious blue waves (along and above the dock level).  Measure 12R is generally blue and Ocean Gray (5O) on the hull and Ocean Gray and Haze Gray (5H) on the superstructure.  On the Hornet, the separation line occurs just below the flight deck level.   

stikpusher

It’s 5-O Ocean Gray with a disruptive pattern of 5-N Navy Blue on the lower hull below the flight deck. From the flight deck up and on the island its 5-H Haze Gray with a disruptive pattern of 5-O Ocean Gray.

 

 

 

 

The Doolittle raid paint instructions for trumpeter are calling for the isalnd to be painted with the sea blue as well. That's a very nice photo there is that prior to departure? Not sure why the instructions would make that big of a mistake. Thank you for the photo And clarification !

It’s 5-O Ocean Gray with a disruptive pattern of 5-N Navy Blue on the lower hull below the flight deck. From the flight deck up and on the island its 5-H Haze Gray with a disruptive pattern of 5-O Ocean Gray.

So far what I've gathered from this is that I'm going to use AK Interactives Deck Blue for my flight deck. Then for the camouflage scheme I'm going to go with a sea blue and a haze gray. When looking down at the kit i was thinking of using a light grey for the top of the island and any exposed parts not covered by the deck blue. Thoughts on this?

All colors are from the AK Interactive sets.