viking ship

GMorrison

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There's a fair amount of information concerning the sail. The corner of a piece of woven wool like a blanket was found in the attice of a church in Norway, IIRC.

Of interest is that there is an "eyelet" or opening woven into it. and, again because I'm lazy and not looking at sources, I think it's dyed red. The red die of the time was made from madder root. The piece of fabric is very rough and thick. Looms of the time were as large as a meter wide, so the sail could have been made up with long meter-wide vertical panels.

It would have weighed a lot, and smelled like a wet dog.

great work.

 

Bill

 

Yet you see white sails on so many models.  My understanding is white cotton sails were rare on all but US ships.

Aha!

   That's a very good reason for leaving them off. Been there, Done that!

thanks guy's for the nice comments , 

steve , cheers mate , i'm keeping it .

bill , I suppose nearly everything would have had that smell , it would have been normal .

TB , you can see in the 2nd to last pic , that the holes aren't blocked , I just thought either myself or 1 of my grandkids would knock some of the @##@$ off .so I left them off .

Tanker-Builder

Alright!

 "Now in Cadence you hear" "Row, row Yer Boat"

The only reason I think Funerary Boat is the fact that All the oar holes are covered by the shields!

 

The rowers grumble under their breath but keep rowing.

BUMP! BUMP! BUMP! BUMP!!!

"What the heck?"

"The Chief wants to go water skiiing!"

That's a fine model you built. such a good kit to begin with and expert build.

There's a fair amount of information concerning the sail. The corner of a piece of woven wool like a blanket was found in the attice of a church in Norway, IIRC.

Of interest is that there is an "eyelet" or opening woven into it. and, again because I'm lazy and not looking at sources, I think it's dyed red. The red die of the time was made from madder root. The piece of fabric is very rough and thick. Looms of the time were as large as a meter wide, so the sail could have been made up with long meter-wide vertical panels.

It would have weighed a lot, and smelled like a wet dog.

great work.

Bill

Hey Steve, that looks awesome. Very nice work sir. I love the wood look. Actually,  I love everything about it. It's a keeper.

Alright!

 "Now in Cadence you hear" "Row, row Yer Boat"

The only reason I think Funerary Boat is the fact that All the oar holes are covered by the shields!

getting near the end ,

Tanker-Builder

Oh ! You are so right Don!

       The Norse (Denmark, Sweden and Norway ) were fantastic archers! I think sometmes that their only equals were the  English Longbowmen.

 

My prof says the Norse were late to animal husbandry because of the dense forests, so hunted for all their meat, and the bow was their weapon of choice for that so they got a lot of practice.

Oh ! You are so right Don!

       The Norse (Denmark, Sweden and Norway ) were fantastic archers! I think sometmes that their only equals were the  English Longbowmen.

the very few shieldds found near ships were about 32 inches in diameter and 1/4" thick at the center, tapering to less than that at the edges. Some have a row of holes around the perimeter, maybe to attach a rim. There's no evidence of the edge being metal.

if the model were handy (the extra oarts), i'd check that. It would be a good idea if shields are to be included, to make them out of plastic about 1/(64 x4), or 1/256 of an inch. I.e. 0.004 inches. Think my math is right.

Bill

The history course I am taking talked about the sea battles.  The vikings actually fought among themselves a lot.  This guy says using the shields fastened to the upper strakes formed a defense wall against arrows and spears- yes the vikings did have archers.  The idea of sea battles with longships is new to me- I thought the vikings only raided other peoples.  This Prof said in particular the Danes and the Norwegiens went at each other at sea- dynastic wars.

that was interesting don, but the nay's still didn't say where they were stowed , my guess would be the bow , pick them up when they jumped ashore .

I find it interesting in looking at reconstructions the many varied apparatus for tensioning the shrouds and stays.  I guess that goes along with the idea I mentioned above about the decentralization of design.  I guess each region tended to rediscover ways of doing this.

Also found an interesting piece on shields on ships.

https://bavipower.com/blogs/bavipower-viking-blog/viking-shields-on-the-sides-of-ships-historical-or-not

steve5

don , I was lead to believe they sat on their sea chests .

steve , cheer's mate , nice to hear from you .

 

That is what I had heard too.  However, the course I am taking in Viking histoy stressed that the vikings were very decentralized and ship design varied a lot from area to area and with time.  Looks like some ships had thwarts and some didn't.  I suspect stowage of shields probably varied to.  There were no establishment specs to control viking ship builders.

don , I was lead to believe they sat on their sea chests .

steve , cheer's mate , nice to hear from you .

Any notion of how the stays were set up is valid as there isn't solid evidence of any one thing.

There is a good argument that the stays had a quick release like a toggle so that the yard could be swung from perpendicular to the keel, to parallel.

Steve.... your Viking ship is looking awesome. I like the paint work and rigging that you did. Your paint detail has it looking like wood.

Nice work Mate!

crackers

Can't give you any advice on the mast rigging, but this picture can illustrate how the furled sail was stowed as well how the ornemental shields were arranged along the gunwale.

Happy modeling   Crackers

 

I just noticed that the pictured vessel has thwarts!

I can't anwer your question don , GM probably the man to ask .

yes they are michael , 2mm blocks from cornwall boat fittings , I held them betwen pliar jaws and enlarge the hole to 1mm .

Looking good Steve, are those after market blocks?

Michael D

I got to wondering, where were the shields stowed when underway? I can see where their swords, axes, and mail would fit in their sea chests, but would the shields fit in a sea chest?

a very weak oil wash has been applied to the rigging .

got some rigging done , I know it isn't 100% , but I'm happy . just wish they put more of those deadeye's in the kit . so I just made do .

gregbale , cheers for the rigging diagrams mate .

FWIW, here are a couple of renderings of their equivalent of blocks or deadeyes...referred to, according to one source, as 'virgins'....

thank's guy's for the replies , a bloke on another forum ,found this for me .

We don't really know. There were probably no lifts to the ends of the spar . I would guess there was one halyard that was seized around the spar at midpoint and ran through a block and aft to the stern where it was tied off to the beam going across behind the tiller man.

With all respect, I wouldn't put much behind that particular replica. It's possible the T things held the yard, but on the one ship they are really far apart for that.

And the shield display is fantasy, as are the benches for the rowers.

our guys sat on their sea chests, which held their personal grooming products.

Bill

Can't give you any advice on the mast rigging, but this picture can illustrate how the furled sail was stowed as well how the ornemental shields were arranged along the gunwale.

Happy modeling   Crackers

can someone please help me , how was the spar hoisted up the mast , in other words , what was the rigging system for the mast , what did the rope go through to hoist the spar up , and how was it tied off at the bass of the mast , any help will be very much appreciated .

got the ship mounted , try starting on the rigging now .