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Scratchbuilding parts
Posted by SNOOPY on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 5:10 PM
I am not sure when I will start these ships models, Lindberg's Bobtail Cruiser or Lindberg's 1/350 scale Bismark, but I was wondering if there is a place like Floating Drydock that sells plans for the armament on these ships. I have seen photoetch parts but I am looking for something where I can build realistic looking anti-aircraft guns, missle launchers, etc. The Lindberg Bobtail Cruiser has these missle launchers that look like a chunk of plastic. Every search I have done on this ship indicates that it was never put into service so I cannot find any info on how these launchers actually look like.
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 6:03 PM
Floating Drydock will have drawings of USN stuff only...I would suggest Pacific Front Hobbies for anything else.

Jeff
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Posted by Ernie on Thursday, October 7, 2004 8:46 AM
Snoopy, gool luck trying to build weapons for 1/350 scale! any open mount guns will be really hard to make but not impossible. closed mounts are pretty staight forward. Did you check the steel-navy.com? lot's of stuff there. I will check a few other things and get back to you.
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Posted by Umi_Ryuzuki on Thursday, October 7, 2004 12:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SNOOPY

The Lindberg Bobtail Cruiser has these missle launchers that look like a chunk of plastic. Every search I have done on this ship indicates that it was never put into service so I cannot find any info on how these launchers actually look like.


Probably represented with the rain covers on the launchers...

Here is a little info on these ships

The Carronade IFS / LFR-1
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06001.htm
http://www.usskawishiwi.org/Alongside/Carronade.html
http://community-2.webtv.net/Carronade2/USSCarronadeIFS1/
More service record
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/lfr-1.htm
http://www.military.com/HomePage/UnitPageFullText/1,13476,200279,00.html

The "St Francis River"LSM(R) / LFR-525
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06525.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/8157/lsmr525.htm

The "White River" LSM(R)-536 / LFR-536
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06536.htm
http://www.mrfa.org/whiteriver.htm
http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/amphib/lsmr536.htm

The "Clark Fork River" LSM(R)-410
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/14410.htm

The "Clarion River"
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06409.htm
http://our409.home.att.net/

The "Big Black River" LSM(R) / LFR-401
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06401.htm

The "Big Horn River" LSM(R)-402
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/14402.htm

The "Blackwater River" LSM(R)-403
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/14403.htm

The " Black Warrior River" LSM(R) / LFR-404
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06404.htm

The "Broad Kill River" LSM(R) / LFR-405
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06405.htm

The "Canadian River" LSM(R)-406
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/14406.htm

The "Chariton River" LSM(R)-407
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/14407.htm

The "Cumberland River" LSM(R)-411
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/14411.htm

The "Desplaines River" LSM(R) / LFR-412
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06412.htm

Maybe we won't go to through thei entire 500 series...
Which include the White and St Francis river above..

The "Flambeau River" LSM(R)-503
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/14503.htm

Probably plenty of images to sort through already. Big Smile [:D]

Umi

MK5 launchersWink [;)]
http://our409.home.att.net/johnsrockets2.jpg - http://our409.home.att.net/vietnam.htm

Third image
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06405.htm

Seventh image
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06520.htm

Second image
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06516.htm

Second image
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06528.htm
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Posted by oldhooker on Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:19 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Umi_Ryuzuki


Here is a little info on these ships



A "little" info huh? Wooooah... I'd hate to see your "detailed" info package!! Shock [:O]

Wink [;)]

Thanks Umi!
Take care,
Frank

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Posted by Umi_Ryuzuki on Sunday, October 10, 2004 5:40 PM
It's really just a matter of knowing where to look. Wink [;)]
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Posted by SNOOPY on Thursday, October 14, 2004 6:12 PM
The links have some good pics but they do not come close to what the detail on the model has. A slb of styrene for the launchers and a slab of styrene for the base. You cannot tell which way they should be glue because of non clear instructions and lack of detail to home in on. Does anyone know if there are blow up pics of these type launchers? I am basically using this ship model as a learning aid but would like it to look as real as possible. Any ever build one of these models?
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Posted by Umi_Ryuzuki on Friday, October 15, 2004 3:12 AM
So not even these two, I posted earlier show enough for your build up?? Disapprove [V]

Seventh image
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06520.htm




Second image
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/06516.htm



You must want to build some really detailed lauchers...Cool [8D]
Click on the images and they will get big for you.Smile [:)]

Umi

[Edit]
Or perhaps I am misunderstanding, and you just need an image of how to orient the "slabs of plastic"

Here is an image with the weather tarps over the Launchers. They look pretty slab like. Wink [;)]

Second image on this page
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/14406.htm



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Posted by SNOOPY on Saturday, October 16, 2004 10:10 AM
Umi,

Those pics might work. It is not so much detail than if you seen what Lindberg gives you. It is like a small chunck of plastic with the base having a slight taper.

The reason I was wondering where one can get detail drawings for armament is because I have seen over the years in FSM, modelers building scratchbuilt 1/96 ships like the USS Enterprise and an Arleigh Burke (Forgive spelling errors) USS KIDD, I trying to go with my memory so also forgive if my classes are a little off. These are like 5 to 6 feet long or longer ships but the article never say where they get the armament information from. I have looked at Floating Drydock and Pacific Hobbies, etc. but I do not know if with the plans everything is need to build the ship including armament plans. Some day, I would like to attempt the scratchbuilding part of modeling.
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Posted by Umi_Ryuzuki on Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:56 AM
Well drawings are really difficult to find for many things.
I use this book for most of my reference
"Naval Weapons of World War Two by John Campbell "
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=66-0851779247-0

However these ships back then were pretty much limited to the old style "rail launchers" Although, by the end of the war, the precurser to the Mk5 launcher, the "MK10" had been developed, but did not see service.

You will probably have to take the time to e-mail Floating Drydock, or other plan suppliers to see if they can verify they have what you seek. Otherwise you may have to spend time in the book stores looking for books similare to the one I linked above, or books like these:
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=66-1861762011-0
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=7-0425147819-1

Again, the difficulty is finding data on the era between WWII, and the "Modern" military.

Sorry I could find what you wanted

Umi
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